US Job Numbers SUCK

[ProfJohn]

Since when did tech = technician??

Usually when you say tech you mean technology.
"My new TV is high tech"

Since 1980 how many technology jobs have been created?

The whole left wing fixation on manufacturing is ridiculous. I think the only reason they focus on it so much is due to its high levels of union members ship.

Check this out:
"The United States is the world's largest manufacturer, with a 2007 industrial output of US$2.69 trillion. In 2008, its manufacturing output was greater than that of the manufacturing output of China, India, and Brazil combined, despite manufacturing being a very small portion of the entire US economy as compared to most other countries"

 

[her209]

Since when did tech = technician??

Usually when you say tech you mean technology.
"My new TV is high tech"

Your use of "tech" is ambiguous. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Since 1980 how many technology jobs have been created?

Do your own homework.

The whole left wing fixation on manufacturing is ridiculous. I think the only reason they focus on it so much is due to its high levels of union members ship.

Check this out:
"The United States is the world's largest manufacturer, with a 2007 industrial output of US$2.69 trillion. In 2008, its manufacturing output was greater than that of the manufacturing output of China, India, and Brazil combined, despite manufacturing being a very small portion of the entire US economy as compared to most other countries"

Ah yes, resorting to the unions. Pathetic argument really. Not everyone is qualified work in a tech job. Anyone can work in a manufacturing job.

 

[Hacp]

Only way this can be solved is to get rid of social security/medicare/state taxes. Get rid of unemployment taxes. Let healthcare be optional, not mandatory for businesses. Make right to work a federal law. Cut the price of hiring a worker and more businesses will hire workers. Finally, cut government regulation in mining, manufacturing, anything related to making stuff and more businesses will be willing to take risks.

Notice what I didn't say: Cut financial regulation. Tax cuts for the rich. Those are separate issues that have very little to do with what is hurting the US economy right now(even though liberals keep trying to bring them up).

 

[her209]

Only way this can be solved is to get rid of social security/medicare/state taxes. Get rid of unemployment taxes. Let healthcare be optional, not mandatory for businesses. Make right to work a federal law. Cut the price of hiring a worker and more businesses will hire workers. Finally, cut government regulation in mining, manufacturing, anything related to making stuff and more businesses will be willing to take risks.

Notice what I didn't say: Cut financial regulation. Tax cuts for the rich. Those are separate issues that have very little to do with what is hurting the US economy right now(even though liberals keep trying to bring them up).

LOL. Put wings on pigs while you're at it.

 

[Doppel]

Only way this can be solved is to get rid of social security/medicare/state taxes. Get rid of unemployment taxes. Let healthcare be optional, not mandatory for businesses. Make right to work a federal law. Cut the price of hiring a worker and more businesses will hire workers. Finally, cut government regulation in mining, manufacturing, anything related to making stuff and more businesses will be willing to take risks.

Notice what I didn't say: Cut financial regulation. Tax cuts for the rich. Those are separate issues that have very little to do with what is hurting the US economy right now(even though liberals keep trying to bring them up).

Ever hear of the phrase throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Some years back unemployment was 5% and we had all those things in play. Yes, the economy was a bit of a fantasy and running on deficits, but still.

Unemployment numbers suck terribly and whether he deserves it or not Obama will be pilloried if it's not materially better by next year.

 

[Craig234]

Didn't see this posted today so I thought I'd throw it down here. Frankly, the USA job number are awful. Canada created more jobs than the USA, talk about depressing.

Canada is doing better for reasons such as their having more right-wing policies than the US, and the financial sector playing a larger role in their economy than Wall Street. (Facetious)

 

[Engineer]

Private sector growth looks decent based on Yulls graph. This is what you get when you cut spending (local and state governments and the federal government is next). Not sure why anyone would think different.

Throw high gasoline prices on top of that and business has lots more to absorb.

 

[dmcowen674]

US Job Numbers SUCK

Let's just give more tax cuts to the rich, all their trickling down is working like a champ.

 

[sportage]

Listen...
If Obama came in, did the stimulus, and that got us totally out of the Bush depression overnight, also creating all the lost jobs lost over 8 years under republican rule, if Obama could have done that, Obama would be the greatest president of any country in our history on earth.

But this is rthe real world, and things just don't turn on a dime. At least not with the economy.

I find it gut busting funny when republicans say "well, that Obama stimulus caused this jobs problem".

This is the economy... No human can "fix" something over night that it took 8 years to destroy.

Now consider this... if you broke your leg playing soccer, went to the doctor, got it set, and the next day you were expected to be back in the game playing soccer, what would your reaction be? How many 4 letter words would you direct at those people giving you crap wondering why you missed the big soccer game?

The economy has been attacked four years under Bush. Bush wars, uncontrolled spending, and the Medicare drug sellout. Not to mention tax breaks for the upper class that defunded incoming tax revenues.

The right thing to do at this point is raise taxes. Every economist will tell you that.
And child in math class can figure that out.
We tried the stimulus and while it helped, that alone cannot fix the broken leg.
Cutting social programs alone cannot fix the broken leg.
Increased tax revenue is the only answer, and we all know every republican in congress realizes that. So what is happening?
Republicans are perfectly willing to kill off the country (except for their wealthy buddies), in order to win back the Whitehouse.
But in the end, it is the voter that has the last say.
The ball is in your court. It always has been... Stop voting stupid.

 

[Engineer]

This isn't about Bush, it's about decades of policies of shipping jobs out in the name of "FREE trade". Tear out the foundation of the economy (good paying jobs for those at the lower middle and bottom) and eventually, the whole building crumbles. Only those with helicopters (maybe some of those subsidized jets, lol) will survive the fall.

Hold on to your ass guys....the ground is pretty damn hard when you fall from the top of this bubble (economy).

 

[Hacp]

Private sector growth looks decent based on Yulls graph. This is what you get when you cut spending (local and state governments and the federal government is next). Not sure why anyone would think different.

Throw high gasoline prices on top of that and business has lots more to absorb.

Not decent. Jobs need to grow by way more to even maintain the rate of people entering the job market.

 

[Trianon]

Zbignev Brzezinski on middle class unrest potential

http://www.infowars.com/brzezinski-middle-class-unrest-to-hit-u-s/

 

[dmcowen674]

Zbignev Brzezinski on middle class unrest potential

http://www.infowars.com/brzezinski-middle-class-unrest-to-hit-u-s/

Brzezinski said, adding that civil unrest would begin when the lower middle class becomes severely affected by the economic fallout and rising unemployment.

The numbers are a climbing

 

[spidey07]

One thing is for certain. The number of jobs that need to be created by private industry would have to be beyond "historic" to get close to 7% come election time. His words have struck fear in the hearts of business and The People and it's not going to get much better until he is out of office. If he would just stop demonizing capitalism maybe, just maybe, we could recover. But he won't and we just have to ride out the next 17 or so months of this presidential disaster. Hold onto your wallets. We can repair his damage and get this country back in the right direction again.

This is a one term president, thank god.

 

[spidey07]

Zbignev Brzezinski on middle class unrest potential

http://www.infowars.com/brzezinski-middle-class-unrest-to-hit-u-s/

Are you witnessing the "mob attacks" by "urban youts"? I told you to prep people.

 

[Trianon]

Are you witnessing the "mob attacks" by "urban youts"? I told you to prep people.

Not anymore, left Chicagoland 1.5 years ago

 

[Jhhnn]

One thing is for certain. The number of jobs that need to be created by private industry would have to be beyond "historic" to get close to 7% come election time. His words have struck fear in the hearts of business and The People and it's not going to get much better until he is out of office. If he would just stop demonizing capitalism maybe, just maybe, we could recover. But he won't and we just have to ride out the next 17 or so months of this presidential disaster. Hold onto your wallets. We can repair his damage and get this country back in the right direction again.

This is a one term president, thank god.

Your state of denial is complete, absolutely impervious to reason of any sort.

Back on track? As if we were on a track headed anywhere but disaster under your hero, GWB and the Repub Congress of 2003-2005. Major economic downturns are always preceded by a period of false growth, of the over extension of credit feeding speculative activity. Like this-

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/08/26/weekinreview/27leon_graph2.html

Notice the date, 2006. Obama was just the junior senator from Illinois...

But it's all Obama's fault, everything. Musta been using Kenyan voodoo time warp mind control to convince Bush functionaries to act as enablers and cheerleaders for Wall St as they pulled off the biggest scam in the history of finance, then bail 'em out rather than nationalizing the bastards, confiscating their personal assets under RICO statutes... Organized crime never had it so good as they did in the Bush years...

 

[spidey07]

Hmm. 2006. Dem congress took control. Hmm.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hmm. 2006. Dem congress took control. Hmm.

Desperate often? obviously so.

Are you claiming that the prices of the "Ownership Society" were sustainable, or what?

That the enormous debt overhang created isn't what's holding back demand, and therefore the economy as a whole?

That corporate profits aren't now near record levels on reduced output & lower employment?

It's not like you really need to owe up to reality, other than if you want to be seen as credible in the eyes of anybody other than the self reinforcing circle jerk of wingnuts you apparently joined long ago...

 

[her209]

Hmm. 2006. Dem congress took control. Hmm.

Oh spidey....... you had so much more optimism back in Nov 2010. What happened bro?

From this thread: US Retail Sales Post Biggest Gain in 7 Months signaling increasing consumer confidenc

With a republican house poised to stop all that Obama has been doing to destroy our economy some sense of certainty is being felt by all business and consumers. This is no surprise, once you stop Obama and his attack on business/capitalism the economy will take off again.

EDIT: Also this...

The wave was already known then along with the outcome. It was predicted along with the economic rebound. As long as Obama could be stopped, the economy would turn around. If he wasn't stopped then the downward spiral would continue.

We The People have neutered his agenda and the power of the free market and capitalism will take over since he can do no more harm now.

 

[spidey07]

Oh spidey....... you had so much more optimism back in Nov 2010. What happened bro?

From this thread: US Retail Sales Post Biggest Gain in 7 Months signaling increasing consumer confidenc

He hasn't been fully stopped. Americans are just speedbumps now. Slowing him down.

 

[Jhhnn]

He hasn't been fully stopped. Americans are just speedbumps now. Slowing him down.

It's a disease, a pathological condition for which there is no known treatment or cure. Sad, really.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Didn't see this posted today so I thought I'd throw it down here. Frankly, the USA job number are awful. Canada created more jobs than the USA, talk about depressing.

This is what happens to a nation's economy when (1.) It exports millions of jobs, including many knowledge-based jobs, overseas, (2.) it imports hundreds of thousands of foreign workers on H-1B and L-1 visas to displace Americans from often college-education-requiring knowledge-based jobs, and (3.) it imports tens of millions of impoverished immigrants to displace lower class Americans and to drive down their wages.

Until we address global labor arbitrage, our nation's economy will not improve. However, our politicians won't acknowledge or address the problem, and the current state of affairs is good for wealthy people because they can become even wealthier when market forces dictate poverty-wages for the vast majority of the populace.

 

[werepossum]

This is what happens to a nation's economy when (1.) It exports millions of jobs, including many knowledge-based jobs, overseas, (2.) it imports hundreds of thousands of foreign workers on H-1B and L-1 visas to displace Americans from often college-education-requiring knowledge-based jobs, and (3.) it imports tens of millions of impoverished immigrants to displace lower class Americans and to drive down their wages.

Until we address global labor arbitrage, our nation's economy will not improve. However, our politicians won't acknowledge or address the problem, and the current state of affairs is good for wealthy people because they can become even wealthier when market forces dictate poverty-wages for the vast majority of the populace.

I completely agree. If we don't make things, we cannot consume things. It's really that simple. Outsourcing is great for increasing average wealth and standard of living in the short term. In the long term, it's national suicide. Unfortunately, even those who recognize the problem don't know how to put the genie back into the bottle.

 

[First]

I've hearing we've lost ZERO federal jobs. So no, I don't think you're factually correct.

As far as state and local jobs, I've heard a much lower number than "hundreds of thousands". However, given the lower tax base available to state/local (real estate values down so r/e tax, sales down so less sales tax, income tax so less income tax revenue) and no more huge federal subsidies (stimulus bill) state/local sector employment should fall even more.

Fern

What is said is factually accurate. Try google.