Or what we did with Saddam in the first place. Man let's not repeat any more mistakes from the past.
Or what we did with Saddam in the first place. Man let's not repeat any more mistakes from the past.
I bet you are rejoicing too aren't you? Another "mark" against Bush in your book...
To those saying we should get the UN involved.. and what, have them solve the problem like they did in Kosovo, Yugoslavia, Serbia, etc? The UN hasn't solved a world problem since its started.. its useless.. Besides, we supply most of the troops and money anyway, so eliminate the middleman.
To the families of those killed: Thank you for your sacrifice.. I personally appreciate what they have done for our country beyond words can express. I am disapointed that some people will use these deaths for purely poltical reasons.
Its amazing how upset people get over the death of 20 American soldiers, but 3000 American citizens is OK...
"But! There is no connection to 9/11 and Iraq"
Its just that Saddam was not smart enough to coordinate the effort of doing it, not that he wouldn't have.. Besides, I am sure some of his money has been spent training or hiding terrorists.. perhaps its only an indirect link to 9/11, but his support was there.. Its time America starts dealing with these rogue counties better instead of sticking our head in the sand and hoping it all works out.
I never knew stating updated news was anti-Bush. Why dont you try censoring news elsewhere... like in Iraq?
You need to move past high school history taught in your podunk-arse town USA, and read some collegiate texts. The UN prevented the USSR and USA from starting World War III. It provided a forum where those 2 countries can whine and b1tch at each other in person instead of flinging nukes at each other. It also solved the Suez Canal incident with Britain and France. The UN food and medical branches also aid millions in third world countries. Its disaster relief does the same on a global basis. Please go venture beyong the county lines; the world is a big place.
And last I checked, in the Korea War, the bulk of the UN forces were South Korean troops.
Wow... first you say you're so d4mn sorry to the families of those soldiers. One sentence later, you slam it in their face by saying how amazing it is that people get upset over the death of those very same soldiers.
There was no link. Its all circumstantial evidence. In this country, one of the founding blocks was innocent until proven guilty. You choose to go against the very principle that these soldiers are dying to protect.
The UN prevented WW III?! Oh my god! Why didn't someone say something. The UN had NOTHING to do with preventing the U.S. and the Soviet Union from going to war. It was called both of us knew it would be certain death if we went to war. The UN provided nothing. Think about the biggest milestones in the cold war, especially under Reagan.. that had NOTHING to do with the UN..
The U.S. also provides much more than its "fair share" of the UN budget, supplies, and troops. The UN would not be capable of ANY major military/humanitarian aide without our support.
Besides, I never elected anyone in the UN.. I do not want them making ANY decisions on my security.. last thing we need is Lybia telling us how to defend ourselves from terrorists.
Sometimes it isn't really difficult to distinguish between someone who actually wants to discuss issues and someone who types sh!t out, wrings their hands together, and thinks "Yea, This will really get them riled up. Hehehehe." Galt used to be a master at this. Now that he's gone, we have Crimson.
I think he does. Of course, you can't really be sure about that because unlike the fact that folks on the left would sometimes tell BOBDN that he's going a little too far, nobody from the right will speak up or voice any disagreement with Crimson.
I miss Alistair7. His faith to Bush administration was admirable. Has he lost his faith or is banned now :brokenheart:
I miss Alistair7. His faith to Bush administration was admirable. Has he lost his faith or is banned now :brokenheart:
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Not speaking for the right here although I tend to be conservative, but I think its possible that most people can discern the difference between someone with conviction to the right and someone who is just immature and hasnt learned to respect everyones opinion. Crimson will learn after getting flamed enough, that a well thought discussion will earn him 10x the respect as his emotional outbursts, and that he will eventually learn more by listening to all sides. He has obviously been exposed to radical elements from both sides so much that he hasnt learned to reason. There are plenty like him here on both sides, and whether one responds to them or not, the net effect of their blather will be nill. IMHO
It was a forum to work out their differences. The biggest milestones in the Cold War wasnt Reagan ending it, it was such incidents like the Korean War, Vietnamese War, and teh Cuban Missile Crisis. It was a place where diplomats could immediately iron out their differences before a situation, like the Cuban Missile Crisis, got out of hand.
The Cuban Missile Crisis was moving at a very fast pace. If diplomacy were done the usual way, it could've easily led to nukes flying.
Uh... the USA has not paid its UN dues for almost the last decade.
It only provides military support to where it sees fit. The bulk of the UN projects worldwide (yes there are other projects going on as we speak) are maintained elsewhere. The biggest example is East Timor, Rwanda and Congo (yes you know those areas have despots meaner than Saddam, but unfortunately, they have very few precious resources).
Whats your point? I dont want some dumb-arse Senator from South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi or some backwater arse portion of the United States telling Washington, Oregon, Texas, and California how to run the high tech industry or navigate the economy. Hell, I dont even want the backwater podunk-arse eastern half of Oregon telling what the high-tech metro area what Oregon should do and how to split the budget.
I elect a Senator, which is a part of the US Senate. I dont have control over who Wisconsin or Rhode Island sends. I elect a leader for the USA, which is part of the General Assembly/Security Council in the UN. I dont have control over who Cambodia sends. Its the same freaking principle as the one used in the United States, except on a "larger" scale. Do you see the "bigger" picture?
In my family, all males serve in the U.S. military. It has been this way for many generations, as a rght of passage. It sorrows me to see good men die. I feel for them, and their families.
The point most miss is that they died doing what they chose to do. Very much like firefighters and cops. They chose the life they lead, and they knew the risks involved. They fought so that many of you in this thread, who did not serve, can argue about this and that, and make outlandish statements about this politician or that. Soldiers fight, that's what they do. Sometimes they die. I see so many people on this board acting like they know about war, politics, and history. They come off looking shallow, and rather immature. Before spouting off you should really do your research. You could also just state it as an opinion, so that everyone knows you really don't know what you are talking about, and can react accordingly.
The point most miss is that they died doing what they chose to do. Very much like firefighters and cops. They chose the life they lead, and they knew the risks involved. They fought so that many of you in this thread, who did not serve, can argue about this and that, and make outlandish statements about this politician or that. Soldiers fight, that's what they do. Sometimes they die. I see so many people on this board acting like they know about war, politics, and history. They come off looking shallow, and rather immature. Before spouting off you should really do your research. You could also just state it as an opinion, so that everyone knows you really don't know what you are talking about, and can react accordingly.
If I understand your post hagbard you said " Where's Oswald when you need him? ". Are you wishing harm to the President of the U.S.?
Care to explain that statement to the U.S. Secret Service! They have no sense of humor about statements like that!
Care to explain that statement to the U.S. Secret Service! They have no sense of humor about statements like that!
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