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US cant sustain its military budget.. at look

Of course we can't, we went from a budget of $300bn in 2001 to over $700bn now, engaging in 2 very difficult wars, one which is one of the most hard to reach areas in the world. The logistics are horrible and expensive, especially for a non-total war.

We need to bring it back down to 2001 levels, whether that's by exiting Afghanistan also or however. $400bn a year is so much money, about 1/3 of the current deficit.
 
This thread would be better if we gave examples of what part of the budget was sustainable. Answering with "small tweaks" is not an answer either. If we have learned anything over the last year it is that no one can make a single tough decision when it comes time.
 
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Londo_Jowo said:
Maybe you Canadians could send the US money to help pay for the protection you receive from the US Armed Forces.
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Maybe the Canadians aren't stupid enough to believe there is an Al Quaida or Taliban under every bed.

Who is going to attack Northern North America? Mexico? Denmark (from Greenland)? Russia across the Bering Sea? Venezuela or Cuba across the Caribbean?
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Maybe you Canadians could send the US money to help pay for the protection you receive from the US Armed Forces.
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We don't ask for it, nor do we need or want it. The only entity we need protecting from is increasingly becoming you.
 
LegendKiller said:
Of course we can't, we went from a budget of $300bn in 2001 to over $700bn now, engaging in 2 very difficult wars, one which is one of the most hard to reach areas in the world. The logistics are horrible and expensive, especially for a non-total war.

We need to bring it back down to 2001 levels, whether that's by exiting Afghanistan also or however. $400bn a year is so much money, about 1/3 of the current deficit.
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I'm for bringing the budget of all federal agencies back to 2001 levels and letting the Bush tax cut expire.
Someone really needs to take a meat axe cleaver and cut from the federal budget instead of attempting to use a scalpel like congress is doing.

Do that, and our budget would be balanced real quick.
 
Jimmah said:
We don't ask for it, nor do we need or want it. The only entity we need protecting from is increasingly becoming you.
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Thanks, I needed that LOL. No offense Londo. I read Jimmah's "you" as painting us Americans with a very broad brush. 😉
 
LegendKiller said:
Of course we can't, we went from a budget of $300bn in 2001 to over $700bn now, engaging in 2 very difficult wars, one which is one of the most hard to reach areas in the world. The logistics are horrible and expensive, especially for a non-total war.

We need to bring it back down to 2001 levels, whether that's by exiting Afghanistan also or however. $400bn a year is so much money, about 1/3 of the current deficit.
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But...terrorists!!

Military still spends a good bit less than other major government branches. It is not sustainable and nor are they. When push comes to shove I think people will support the reduction of military before less prescription meds, for example. The military will be squeeze, and by golly it should. It really more than doubled in a decade? Inflation and population sure didn't force a doubling.
 
Doppel said:
But...terrorists!!

Military still spends a good bit less than other major government branches. It is not sustainable and nor are they. When push comes to shove I think people will support the reduction of military before less prescription meds, for example. The military will be squeeze, and by golly it should. It really more than doubled in a decade? Inflation and population sure didn't force a doubling.
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Admittedly, I haven't done the research, but I suspect the increase in our deficit and spending has a lot less to do with the other branches and a lot more to do with inflation, the military (which accounts for 1/3 of it), tax cuts, and then some expansion around Medicare D, DHS and a few others around that area.

I don't think it'd be hard at all to return to 2001 levels and, while not balancing the budget, get pretty close to balancing the budget.
 
LegendKiller said:
Admittedly, I haven't done the research, but I suspect the increase in our deficit and spending has a lot less to do with the other branches and a lot more to do with inflation, the military (which accounts for 1/3 of it), tax cuts, and then some expansion around Medicare D, DHS and a few others around that area.

I don't think it'd be hard at all to return to 2001 levels and, while not balancing the budget, get pretty close to balancing the budget.
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Pensions and Healthcare have basically doubled as well. 865B to 1.6T.
 
I agree with the OP. The military is nothing more than a mass murderer, a job creator, and corporate welfare. The Antifederalists warned against a standing army, and the people today should reconsider their warnings.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
The US Armed Forces surrounds Canada and provide protection.
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Why should Canada pay for America retarded decisions?
Unless, America is an international thug that extort protection money from other nations.

IMHO, most Canadian feel that the US (base and weapons) is welcome to leave at any time, so as Japan/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan/etc...
 
iGas said:
Why should Canada pay for America retarded decisions?
Unless, America is an international thug that extort protection money from other nations.

IMHO, most Canadian feel that the US (base and weapons) is welcome to leave at any time, so as Japan/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan/etc...
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The US doesn't have any bases or personnel in Canada.
 
lothar said:
I'm for bringing the budget of all federal agencies back to 2001 levels and letting the Bush tax cut expire.
Someone really needs to take a meat axe cleaver and cut from the federal budget instead of attempting to use a scalpel like congress is doing.

Do that, and our budget would be balanced real quick.
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Maybe, but don't you think such massive changes to spending in our economy would create some pretty major problems? People act like government spending is burning piles of money or something, but the government spends the money on things like goods and services purchased directly or indirectly from people...and it employs a fair number of people too. You think sudden, massive changes to that is really a wise move?
 
wirelessenabled said:
Maybe the Canadians aren't stupid enough to believe there is an Al Quaida or Taliban under every bed.

Who is going to attack Northern North America? Mexico? Denmark (from Greenland)? Russia across the Bering Sea? Venezuela or Cuba across the Caribbean?
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Wiki leaks has found there is ZERO mention of Al-Quaida in classified documents during the first 3 years of our stay in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is surprising since one of our main reasons to go there in the first place was to fight Terrorism... That begs the question [or rather answers it]...That Al-Quaida is a bullshit boogeyman created to feed the media and keep the masses distracted from the real action going on over there.

And what IS going on seems two things right now -

1. Protect Israel, we are on Iran's nutsack today because of this aswell. Saddam was Israel's main enemy prior to the invasion.

2. Make Afghanistan safe enough along the designated routes that the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline is going to follow. Surprisingly enough, that pipeline is going to be completed by 2013-2014, right about the time we leave. Hmm. And most of our troops are stationed along points of that pipeline today aswell, shocking!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline
 
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