upreme Court to Tackle Violent Video Games

[Amused]

Yeah, we need the "strict constructionists" to protect us from our first amendment.

Um, it was CA Democrats (the "living breathing constitution" kind) who introduced, pushed, backed and now are defending this bill.

Try reading the thread first and maybe next time you won't look so foolish?

 

[shortylickens]

Yep. Sad, isn't it?

The funny thing? I'm VERY liberal... and most of the so-called liberals on this board think I'm a rightwinger.

WTF???

Democrats & Republicans have completely lost touch with their roots. And most Conservatives & Liberals really arent.
Thats probably the cause of half the arguments on this forum. People call themselves one thing and mean another, the mud-slinging begins, defenses get weird and overzealous.
Actually, I think Congress has the same damn problem.

 

[Elias824]

If anything bugs bunny violence is much worse then anything from a video game. It teaches kids that violence is fun and there are no consequences from violent behavior.
Either way It would be awesome if parents actually raised their kids instead of looking to the government to do it for them.

 

[woolfe9999]

Um, it was CA Democrats (the "living breathing constitution" kind) who introduced, pushed, backed and now are defending this bill.

Try reading the thread first and maybe next time you won't look so foolish?

SOME democrats support this sort of thing - censoring violent content (as opposed to sexual content, which is what some conservatives prefer to censor). However, I think dems are pretty divided on this particular issue. So far no leftie on this board has come out in the support of this. It's a good bet it remains that way throughout the life of the thread.

For the record, I STRONGLY oppose any sort of content regulation for video games or any other media.

- wolf

 

[Acanthus]

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/01/violent-video-games-amendment-protection/

On Tuesday, the court's nine justices will consider whether to strip First Amendment protection from violent videogames that critics say appeal to the deviant interests of children.


Yes...Yes!!! For the fucking children! Take away our firsrt amendment PLEASE!!!!

Total BS as usual.

Is it any more obvious I'm fucking tired of the Voting BS going on? Wake me when the dog and pony show is over and let me know the out come of this two party cluster fuck.

Waste of MONEY and TIME....

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

This is true.
Been bored lately with the flu and was reading a lot of stuff online. If histories liberals could see what modern American liberals are up to they'd be ashamed.
In fact most people calling themselves liberals need to stop, because they really arent.
I guess thats why some have dropped the title and prefer to be called progressive. Cuz a Nazi state is not something we've yet had here. So that must be new and better.

Liberals have always been progressive compared to the conservatives of their time, that hasn't changed at all.

The biggest difference between the classic liberal and the modern liberals in the US is that the modern liberals have no limits to spending, that is something they have learned from the conservatives and especially the neo-conservative movement.

When it comes to authoritarian, the liberal governments are never the ones to institute authoritarian measures but they also rarely diminish the ones set up by the conservative government that came before them.

In many ways people do have problems with that on both sides and for good reasons, they will always deny it though and always blame the other side.

 

[Amused]

Liberals have always been progressive compared to the conservatives of their time, that hasn't changed at all.

The biggest difference between the classic liberal and the modern liberals in the US is that the modern liberals have no limits to spending, that is something they have learned from the conservatives and especially the neo-conservative movement.

When it comes to authoritarian, the liberal governments are never the ones to institute authoritarian measures but they also rarely diminish the ones set up by the conservative government that came before them.

In many ways people do have problems with that on both sides and for good reasons, they will always deny it though and always blame the other side.

I see you are a bit clueless to American politics.

The American left (incorrectly labeled as "liberal) is ALL about regulations, safety laws, limits, social engineering and "for your own good" legislation. They are about as authoritarian as they come.

While the religious right segment of the American right is authoritarian as well, they get NOTHING done. They are as impotent as a 100 year old man. But the left has little trouble passing ever increasing legislation limiting our rights and freedoms, AND continuing whatever damage the right has done as well.

There is NOTHING "liberal" about the modern American left. They have just TWO liberal hot button issues (gays and abortion). That's it. Beyond that, they haven't seen anything they didn't feel needed government control and regulation.

 

[werepossum]

I see you are a bit clueless to American politics.

The American left (incorrectly labeled as "liberal) is ALL about regulations, safety laws, limits, social engineering and "for your own good" legislation. They are about as authoritarian as they come.

While the religious right segment of the American right is authoritarian as well, they get NOTHING done. They are as impotent as a 100 year old man. But the left has little trouble passing ever increasing legislation limiting our rights and freedoms, AND continuing whatever damage the right has done as well.

There is NOTHING "liberal" about the modern American left. They have just TWO liberal hot button issues (gays and abortion). That's it. Beyond that, they haven't seen anything they didn't feel needed government control and regulation.

Well said. The right wants to control everything you do. The left wants to control everything you do, say and think.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I see you are a bit clueless to American politics.

The American left (incorrectly labeled as "liberal) is ALL about regulations, safety laws, limits, social engineering and "for your own good" legislation. They are about as authoritarian as they come.

Like the DMCA, patriot act and warantless searches/surveillance?

Or what?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Well said. The right wants to control everything you do. The left wants to control everything you do, say and think.

Really? What proposals or laws have they put forth to make you think that?

Perhaps it was warrantless wiretapping? Warrantless searches? The DMCA? No? that was the freedom loving conservatives that did that? Perhaps restriction of what books the library can carry? Restrictions on the internet? Restrictions on free speech? Oh those are conservative suggestions too, aren't they? Perhaps it was about video games, drugs or movies? No, those are also conservative suggestions...

Ok so what then?

 

[Amused]

Like the DMCA, patriot act and warantless searches/surveillance?

Or what?

The Dems voted for the Patriot act. They also voted to extend it amd Obama was with them.

And the dems, along with Obama, just EXAPANDED the governments ability to wiretap without a warrant.

So, those aside, we also have the whole host of regulations, limits, social engineering laws, taxes and what not.

Nice try but... no cigar.

I never tried to make the claim that the American right was liberal... only that the American left is ANYTHING BUT.

About the only real liberal party we have is the libertarian party, and they go too far for the mainstream.

 

[Amused]

Really? What proposals or laws have they put forth to make you think that?

Perhaps it was warrantless wiretapping? Warrantless searches? The DMCA? No? that was the freedom loving conservatives that did that? Perhaps restriction of what books the library can carry? Restrictions on the internet? Restrictions on free speech? Oh those are conservative suggestions too, aren't they? Perhaps it was about video games, drugs or movies? No, those are also conservative suggestions...

Ok so what then?

I see you edited your post, so I'll expand my answer.

It was Al Gore's wife who led the charge to censor music.

It was a LEFT Democrat who put forth this bill in CA trying to censor video games.

And while the right wing has vainly tried to limit what libraries can carry, the left has been far more successful in censorship in the name of political correctness.

As I said, I never said the rightwing was liberal. Only that the left wing was anything but liberal.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I see you edited your post, so I'll expand my answer.

It was Al Gore's wife who led the charge to censor music.

It was a LEFT Democrat who put forth this bill in CA trying to censor video games.

And while the right wing has vainly tried to limit what libraries can carry, the left has been far more successful in censorship in the name of political correctness.

As I said, I never said the rightwing was liberal. Only that the left wing was anything but liberal.

Are you drunk? I didn't edit my post.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The Dems voted for the Patriot act. They also voted to extend it amd Obama was with them.

And the dems, along with Obama, just EXAPANDED the governments ability to wiretap without a warrant.

So, those aside, we also have the whole host of regulations, limits, social engineering laws, taxes and what not.

Nice try but... no cigar.

I never tried to make the claim that the American right was liberal... only that the American left is ANYTHING BUT.

About the only real liberal party we have is the libertarian party, and they go too far for the mainstream.

You got the whigs, that's probably the closest to our LibDems.

 

[Amused]

Are you drunk? I didn't edit my post.

Unfortuantely, I'm not drunk... just mistaken. 😳 My bad. I saw your second post and assumed you expanded on your post to me with edits.

My bad.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Unfortuantely, I'm not drunk... just mistaken. 😳 My bad. I saw your second post and assumed you expanded on your post to me with edits.

My bad.

No worries, i can see how you made that mistake after rereading it it seems like it could be an answer to your post...

 

[Fenixgoon]

total BS. the ESRB already provides ratings for games, and i can't think of any store that does not follow the guidelines (ie, tartget, walmart, etc. will not sell an M game to someone under 17)

parents need to do some damn parenting.

 

[BoberFett]

Like the DMCA, patriot act and warantless searches/surveillance?

Or what?

The DMCA is largely from Democrats who are in bed with Hollywood. Democrats voted almost unanimously for the PATRIOT Act. Warrantless wiretapping was the Bush administration, but Obama has not only continued it, but expanded it.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The DMCA is largely from Democrats who are in bed with Hollywood. Democrats voted almost unanimously for the PATRIOT Act. Warrantless wiretapping was the Bush administration, but Obama has not only continued it, but expanded it.

But...but...Obama was "forced" to continue things like the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping by those dastardly and evil Republicans!!! The lefty wingnuts here told me so!

 

[zsdersw]

I see you edited your post, so I'll expand my answer.

It was Al Gore's wife who led the charge to censor music.

It was a LEFT Democrat who put forth this bill in CA trying to censor video games.

And while the right wing has vainly tried to limit what libraries can carry, the left has been far more successful in censorship in the name of political correctness.

As I said, I never said the rightwing was liberal. Only that the left wing was anything but liberal.

Too many Republicans like censorship too. Along with Democrats, their fingerprints are all over the FCC's decency rules, the COICA, a "nontraditional family values" tax credit exemption in Florida, and the flag burning amendment (Orrin Hatch sponsored it, Bill Frist brought it up for a vote in the House) in 2005/6.

 

[her209]

If the Supreme Court allows the sales of dog fighting videos, I can't imagine why they won't allow this.

 

[Elias824]

I dont think its in the constitution that the US govt needs to censor video games.

 

[halik]

Arguing compelling interest overriding first amendment is an uphill battle...

Where's Wolfe with his con law analysis?

 

[ShawnD1]

Yeah, we need the "strict constructionists" to protect us from our first amendment.

I elect people to think for me so I don't need to do it as often 😎

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

I'm going to go kill some stuff with my mouse...