upreme Court to Tackle Violent Video Games

[Amused]

Too many Republicans like censorship too. Along with Democrats, their fingerprints are all over the FCC's decency rules, the COICA, a "nontraditional family values" tax credit exemption in Florida, and the flag burning amendment (Orrin Hatch sponsored it, Bill Frist brought it up for a vote in the House) in 2005/6.

I think you missed the gist of my post. I never painted the rightwing as liberal.

And as for "decency rules," they have steadily been loosening. And the flag burning amendment fails every time. Like I said, the religious right has little political mojo. They seem worth pandering to, but their agenda never passes.

My point is this: The American LEFT and Democrat leadership/mainstream is NOT liberal. Not in any sense of the word.

Which is sad, because now neither of the major parties is liberal. We have no true liberal option in a major party platform anymore.

 

[zsdersw]

I think you missed the gist of my post. I never painted the rightwing as liberal.

And as for "decency rules," they have steadily been loosening. And the flag burning amendment fails every time. Like I said, the religious right has little political mojo. They seem worth pandering to, but their agenda never passes.

You didn't paint the right-wing as liberal, but you continue to dismiss them because their agenda doesn't usually get far at the federal level.

Villains who twirl their moustaches are easy to spot, while those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well-camouflaged.

My point is that "decency rules" and flag burning amendments shouldn't exist at all, regardless of whether they're loosening and not being enacted, respectively.

 

[Amused]

You didn't paint the right-wing as liberal, but you continue to dismiss them because their agenda doesn't usually get far at the federal level.

Villains who twirl their moustaches are easy to spot, while those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well-camouflaged.

My point is that "decency rules" and flag burning amendments shouldn't exist at all, regardless of whether they're loosening and not being enacted, respectively.

They are bad ideas that constantly get shot down.

And as ideas, they have every right to exist as any other. They just get shot down, that's all. We are awash in bad ideas. So what? To focus on two that fail miserably is rather silly.

And who are the wolves in sheeps clothing today? I would say that's the left who paint themselves as liberal, yet seek government regulation and control of just about every aspect of our lives. Who push for MORE censorship than the right could ever dream of passing. Who EXPAND warrantless wiretap laws... All the while claiming to be "liberal."

 

[zsdersw]

They are bad ideas that constantly get shot down.

And as ideas, they have every right to exist as any other. They just get shot down, that's all. We are awash in bad ideas. So what? To focus on two that fail miserably is rather silly.

I'm talking about pieces of legislation, which is more serious and more of a threat than just a bad idea.. and I doubt there's just two bad ideas or just two bad pieces of legislation; those are the two that came to mind most recently.

And who are the wolves in sheeps clothing today? I would say that's the left who paint themselves as liberal, yet seek government regulation and control of just about every aspect of our lives. Who push for MORE censorship than the right could ever dream of passing. Who EXPAND warrantless wiretap laws... All the while claiming to be "liberal."

Just like the wolves on the right who want to be our moral crusaders in the interest of saving our souls from eternal damnation.

The fact that one bunch of wolves is more trapped in a cage than another bunch doesn't mean you ignore either of bunch.

 

[Amused]

I'm talking about pieces of legislation, which is more serious and more of a threat than just a bad idea.. and I doubt there's just two bad ideas or just two bad pieces of legislation; those are the two that came to mind most recently.



Just like the wolves on the right who want to be our moral crusaders in the interest of saving our souls from eternal damnation.

The fact that one bunch of wolves is more trapped in a cage than another bunch doesn't mean you ignore either of bunch.

No, but you tend to focus on the one that has their teeth embeded in your sheep first.

 

[zsdersw]

No, but you tend to focus on the one that has their teeth embeded in your sheep first.

Focus need not be reduced on one to keep the other at bay.

 

[Amused]

Focus need not be reduced on one to keep the other at bay.

Well, when you only have two choices it does.

Which is why, at the present, gridlock is the best we can hope for.

 

[zsdersw]

Well, when you only have two choices it does.

Why?

 

[Amused]

Why?

Because you're faced with picking the less of two evils.

 

[Zebo]

What ever happened to parenting? Besides more violent the better, practice for what's coming.

 

[LumbergTech]

What ever happened to parenting? Besides more violent the better, practice for what's coming.

part of the problem is that parents in the past didn't have such invasive media competing for their child's mind

 

[1prophet]

part of the problem is that parents in the past didn't have such invasive media competing for their child's mind

Used to hear the same thing about rock and roll music.

 

[werepossum]

part of the problem is that parents in the past didn't have such invasive media competing for their child's mind

While that is certainly true, making parenting easy is not a legitimate function of government.

 

[shortylickens]

Used to hear the same thing about rock and roll music.

Music is passive.
Video games are interactive.
Theres a pretty good argument they have a stronger influence on brains than anything else.

Not that I think the government should be regulating them, but its something to think about.

 

[1prophet]

Music is passive.
Video games are interactive.
Theres a pretty good argument they have a stronger influence on brains than anything else.

Not that I think the government should be regulating them, but its something to think about.

Maybe to you and me but the people trying to ban certain music not too long ago like Tipper Gore disagreed and produced arguments to the contrary,

playing cops and robbers as kids, paintball gun fights, laser tag, etc. are all interactive but you and I know someone somewhere will say they should be banned for one reason or another and produce studies to show the negative consequences on the minds of the youth.

 

[Amused]

Music is passive.
Video games are interactive.
Theres a pretty good argument they have a stronger influence on brains than anything else.

Not that I think the government should be regulating them, but its something to think about.

And when we were kids were played cops and robbers/cowboys and indians.

What's the diff?

There is nothing to think about here.

 

[werepossum]

And when we were kids were played cops and robbers/cowboys and indians.

What's the diff?

There is nothing to think about here.

That game is far too violent for today's youth. Now they are only allowed to play therapists and robbers.

 

[Amused]

That game is far too violent for today's youth. Now they are only allowed to play the rapists and robbers.