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Upgrading video card

Nightfall1293

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Okay so I currently have an HP Envy desktop computer and wanted to upgrade my current graphics card This is the dx diag on my current video card.

System Information
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Time of this report: 5/28/2017, 14:47:01
Machine name: JOHNDESKTOP
Machine Id: {40FC3E32-7D84-4188-9F4D-CB2CA191CDC0}
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393) (14393.rs1_release_sec.170427-1353)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: 700-210
BIOS: 80.49
Processor: AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~3.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 7350MB RAM
Page File: 3701MB used, 4800MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Not Available
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.14393.0000 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 8670D
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x990C)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_990C&SUBSYS_2AE0103C&REV_00
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 4206 MB

http://www.amd.com/en-gb/products/graphics/desktop/oem/8670#

This link shows my current graphics card specs on the left under the 8670 gpu column
My goal is to simply get a graphics card that is either an upgrade or equal to my current one but I need an hdmi port here are two that I am looking at can anyone tell me which one would be better or if they are even compatible with my system or maybe reccommend one that would be a better fit for me in a similar price range
https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-730-2GB-DDR3-VGA-DVI-HDMI-Low-Profile-PCI-Express-Video-Card/111139304

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EVGA-GeForce-GT-730-LP-Graphics-card-GF-GT-730-2-GB-GDDR5-PCIe-2.0-x16-low-profile-DVI-D-Sub-HDMI/38295612
 

guachi

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The 8670 is the graphics on the 10TH APU. Basically any discrete card will be faster.

The questions I have:
How much space do you have in your computer?
Can you fit a full height card or must it be low profile?
Can you fit a dual slot or must it be a single slot?
Must the card draw all its power from the PCI slot or do you have access to 6 and 8 pin power connectors?
If you wanted a more powerful card would you be willing and could you fit a larger power supply in your system?
 

Nightfall1293

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Like I said I am not looking for a high end card or anything like that just want one that has a vga and hdmi port on it that is similar or better than my current one, i don't wanna downgrade. To answer your questions however, it must be a low profile single slot and have all the power directly from the pci slot, noise isnt really an issue as far as the fan goes so just really need to know which of the two link I posted are better if either are better and if they will be compatible with my system as is.
 

Nightfall1293

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so is the
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB GDDR5 LP Graphics Card any good? its got what I need just need to know if it will work
 

cbn

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so is the
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB GDDR5 LP Graphics Card any good? its got what I need just need to know if it will work
It will work, but the GT 1030 (which is only $1 more) is more than twice as fast at the ~same power consumption.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487052 (EVGA GT 730 GDDR5 2GB, $68.99 FS)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137139&cm_re=Gt_1030-_-14-137-139-_-Product (MSI GT 1030, $69.99 FS)

 
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With GT 1030 at $70, the only GT 730 to really consider is the one I linked below (PNY GT 730 GDDR5 1GB, $49.99 FS):

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133542

(But a person gives up quite a bit in the form of gaming performance, VRAM (1GB vs. 2GB), modern display (HDMI 1.4 vs. HDMI 2.0) and media codec (no VP9 or HEVC) just to save $20)
 
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Nightfall1293

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Would that 1030gt support a dp to vga if i got a cable and no converter? like just get a vga female to male dp so i can plug my monitor into one end then plug it into the connector that the connector to the dp port on the card?
 

Nightfall1293

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Would still like someones input before I make this purchase tomorrow afternoon, but a few searches around google has shown me that all it takes is this adapter cable. Also is this just a matter of pulling the old card out and sticking the new one in and turning the computer on or do I need to manually install new drivers before doing this

https://www.walmart.com/ip/DP-to-VGA-Adapter-ABLEGRID-DisplayPort-DP-Male-To-VGA-Female-Cable-Adapter-for-PC-Laptop-Macbook/251199061?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=2103&adid=22222222227065829792&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=170242374171&wl4=pla-468199919912&wl5=9009630&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113500339&wl11=online&wl12=251199061&wl13=&veh=sem

and my vga monitor would work seamlessly into the display port on the video card here
https://www.walmart.com/ip/G10302PC-MSI-GTX-1030-2G-LP-OC/312140787
 
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Would that 1030gt support a dp to vga if i got a cable and no converter?
I am not sure what you mean by this, but any display port to VGA adapter will have the necessary ICs to convert analog to digital.

For example, that adapter you linked should work. You would just need that and a VGA cable.

P.S. When shopping for adapters make sure to check the reviews to see if it is a good one or not. I've read about some cheap ones burning out quickly.
 
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Nightfall1293

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A display port to VGA needs an active adapter since it converts analog to digital.

P.S. Be careful not to get one that is too cheap because I have read reviews on certain very low cost ones burning out fairly quickly.
but to clarify I would only need that adapter then I would not need a converter like I would if i was trying to go from vga to hdmi
 

cbn

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but to clarify I would only need that adapter then I would not need a converter like I would if i was trying to go from vga to hdmi
That is right. You would just plug into the male display port part of the adaprer into the video card. Then connect the VGA from your monitor to the adapter.
 

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Also is this just a matter of pulling the old card out and sticking the new one in and turning the computer on or do I need to manually install new drivers before doing this
Yep, first shut off the computer. (Wait about a minute or push the power on button to drain the rest of the electricity out).

Ground yourself.

Then Remove old card.

Then Install new card.

Boot up and Windows will automatically install an Nvidia driver* for you. (The old Radeon drivers will need to be removed manually... Just go to "add and remove programs" and select uninstall to do that)
 

guachi

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Neither of the 730 cards linked in the OP have a VGA port available in low profile form. The VGA port is only there if you install the full height bracket.

In other words, get the 1030 and an adapter.
 

Nightfall1293

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much appreciated everyone I am making my final purchase today and will update how it all goes when I install it
 

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