Upgrading my Gaming PC ( Fixed Thread)

[krnmastersgt]

I would advise towards a different path tbh, aside from all the advice posted before:
1. The Ti holds only a marginal increase in performance over the 780, but at a substantially higher cost. If your goal is get the most powerful card on the market, you don't even need to wait for the 20mm fab cards to hit the market as likely the 290x2 and the GTX 790 will be out soon-ish. Those will both smash the 780 Ti in terms of performance.
2. You run a CF set-up so I think you know just how much more performance for your money you can get through a multi-card set-up vs a single card. If you want the best possible power for gaming at 1080p in modern titles a 770 SLI set-up should also easily surpass a 780 Ti. Older games and engines might not scale with SLI so well but most modern titles, especially the ones that will be graphically demanding scale very well now. You could try a single 770 as an "upgrade" from your rig and see how it performs at 1080p and then grab the second one when the games you want hit the market and you feel you can't run them comfortably anymore.
3. I understand having the upgrade itch, but you may want to upgrade other components to "justify" your upgrade first Like grabbing a higher res monitor like I have lol.

 

[mfenn]

I know that... But Gtx 780 Ti will run it with maxed out graphics for sure... There is no doubt in that.

Until you see benchmarks, there is absolutely doubt.

And im asking about overall quality / performance ( in the post above)... Not compared to Watch Dogs right now..
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I'm not sure why you have your heart set on getting a GTX 780 Ti. If not Watch Dogs, what problem are you trying to solve?

 

[Lumicko]

Damn didnt notice the second page
Why Should I need higher res? isnt 1920x1080 enough?? I find going above 1920 is totally useless... Its just a big mess when u have multiple monitors , they arent connected in the display etc..
Well I dont know why is my heart set on gtx 780 ti... mby because its the best card. And IM NOT going for SLI I dont trust it.. And power power consumption is also going to be much higher (and require a heavier duty PSU) and there will probably be a good amount of heat. So no. What do you mean what problem im trying to solve? Well ye it was a bit panic movement.. Because i wasnt receiving any more ideas.. But i meant that its for the future games. Its obvious that my current setup (GPU) wont be able to run Watch Dogs , Division , Witcher 3 on high graphic settings... my current GPU is just too old

Thank you guys for all the advices seems like other ppl dont want to post there.. Most likely its because of my chaotic thing in this thread. And that im so UNSURE.

 

[riversend]

OP, you asked for some advice. The best advice to get high/ultra settings on a game is to wait until the game can be reviewed and benched, then apply some analysis to compare what parts of your system need to be upgraded to achieve your desired results.

If you just want to get a powerful card now to increase your chances of playing it on the release date, benches/analysis be damned, and you don't care about cost, then pull the trigger. You have somehow convinced yourself that buying now is better than waiting, which is contrary to the advice given based on what you indicate you are trying to achieve. It's your money, do what you want.

Some of the posters are trying to figure out what imperative is driving you to ignore their advice.

 

[Lumicko]

I see... Yeh thats awkward
Im sorry about that. At first I was unsure but now im sure that i want go for this card. Just need advice on manufacturer and which version. And the RAM and Cpu. Gonna edit the main post.

 

[sze5003]

It should be a good card to hold you over for a while. Not that I think you needed a new one if you were concerned about watch dogs. But most people were giving advice to prevent you from buying something and spending money when you may not need it, since for example the game isn't out yet. But it is your money so you can decide. I would definately get a 3gb card from now on. It helps if you want to crank up settings or use higher resolution.

 

[Lumicko]

It should be a good card to hold you over for a while. Not that I think you needed a new one if you were concerned about watch dogs. But most people were giving advice to prevent you from buying something and spending money when you may not need it, since for example the game isn't out yet. But it is your money so you can decide. I would definately get a 3gb card from now on. It helps if you want to crank up settings or use higher resolution.

Thank you very much. And now I realised its not only because of upcoming games. Currently i have problem in planetside 2 where im running mostly 30-50 fps with LOW SEttings which sucks hard... Fps too low and graphics too.. Same for DAYZ I have everything off / low.. Still i have 30-50 fps. I dont know why is that. I suppose because of GPU. So the reason is also because of current games not running good (fps) even with low settings. These games are example, there are probably more games
If I would say that way earlier im sure that it would help you guys and you would understand then.. IM SORRY ABOUT that

FIXED and TRANSFORMED / IMPROVED main post and EVERYTHING + ADDED ANOTHER REASON OF UPGRADE..MADE THREAD clear and should be now UNDERSTANDABLE.

 

[mfenn]

6950 Crossfire should be enough to run the two games you have mentioned at good settings. You're guessing that you don't have enough GPU power, but that's not based on any evidence (at least none that you have presented). As sm625 said on the first page, if you're having performance issues with your current setup, there is something else wrong with your PC.

The fact that putting all the graphics settings on low does not help performance indicates that the problem is not the GPU. If it were, you'd see huge performance increases by changing graphics options.

Make sure that you don't have background processes eating up a bunch of memory and/or CPU. Make sure that your CPU/GPU temps are OK and you're not throttling. Make sure you are using the latest drivers. Try a fresh install of Windows. Try overclocking your CPU.

As riversend and sze5003 said, we can't stop you from spending your money if you don't want to. But that doesn't mean we have to give you bad advice just becasue you're asking us to.

 

[Lumicko]

I didnt make enough tests... But fixed that now. Did make a several tests.

Made sure that CrossFireX is enabled in AMD Catalyst Control Center (Performance- AMD CrossFireX - Enable AMD CrossFireX). Even right clicked on Catalyst Control Center hovered over the first entry for the cards ("1. Radeon etc...") > navigated to "crossfirex settings" > clicked on "show crosssfirex status icon (where applicable)" to enable it.
Thus I have CrossFire icon in top right corner ( was in Planetside2 and Crysis 3 but not in Dayz Standalone )

Planetside2 - Supports CrossFireX
Low (no battle) = 110-140 fps
Low (battle) = 70-100
Very High (battle) ( and if possible Ultra) = 45-60 fps
Very High (no battle) ( and if possible Ultra) = 55-65 fps

DayZ Standalone - Doesnt Support CrossFireX
Low = 50-75 FPS
High (FXAA HIgh, AntiAliasing Very High , Texture Filtering Very High) = 25-50 FPS

Crysis 3 - Supports CrossFireX
Very High ( Antisotropic Filtering 8x , FXAA ) = 40-50 FPS
Low ( If possible all off ) = 120 - 140 FPS

In "iddle" ( ofc i have steam opened , mby TS , skype and these ltitle things ) my CPU usage is 1%+- and RAM 20-25%. Checked via Task manager. Driver for GPU is the newest.
My CPU is alrdy OC to 4.2 GHZ but not by me.. I think its Turobo thing ( Auto OC I guess) checked in BIOS cuz default CPU ratio is 33.. And with Turbo it says 42 ( checked also via CPU-Z and ye my CPU is running on 42 multiplier )

For example difference beetwen Gtx 780 Ti and 780 in fps is 20+- in most games.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1036
( Compared to GTX 770 its even higher over 30+ fps)
And its worth considering too that the console gens finally changed so there might be more graphically intensive games.
And im playing on 120 hz. And the graphic card should last 2-3years

 

[mfenn]

Thank you for doing those tests. So it seems like DayZ is the game where you're not getting great performance due to Crossfire not working. Try telling DayZ to use the ARMA II profile by following these steps and seeing if your performance is better.