Upgrading from Phenom II X6 1055T, need advice

[soccerballtux]

the absolute best price/performance path is going to be AMD on an FX-8300 or 8310 CPU from tigerdirect and a $60 motherboard. I wasn't planning on it (had to wanted more RAM) but I went from my Ph2-x4 965 that made serious heat, to my current setup. It's a 95w processor but feels faster than the Phenom2 I had.

It has more bandwidth to grow in the future than the i3's as more software gets multithreaded. I can handbrake benchmark at 220fps but the i3's at my price point could only do 80fps. You really have to go i5 quad core with overclocking for the price/performance to make sense.

 

[dharmil007]

Unplug PC from mains, run a vacuum cleaner nozzle on the heatsink until all the visible dust is cleared out, and just so we're on the same page, the CPU heatsink is this guy:

Big metal fins with a fan on top.

As far as the rest of the inside of the PC goes, feel free to vacuum clean it out, just avoid touching circuit boards and board contacts.

Any other option other then Vaccum?
Cause i dont have that

 

[mikeymikec]

Any other option other then Vaccum?
Cause i dont have that

Someone else suggested a compressed air can, but I guess that's not an option either.

You could unscrew the fan from the top of the heatsink, unplug and remove it (note where it was plugged in), then pick the dust off by hand.

Another option would be to remove the fan then the heatsink from the processor, and shake the heatsink upside down (far away from the PC obviously) as well as picking the dust out by hand. I would make a note about which way around the heatsink was when removing it so that the heat sink paste smear is likely to match up when you install the heatsink again (it's not essential but it will help cool the processor as efficiently as possible).

I would only suggest a dustpan and brush if the heatsink is removed from the board first, but if this is only a one-person job, then the heatsink would need to be placed on a surface in such a way that the thermal paste on the underside is left undisturbed (PS: it should still be pasty). Otherwise I would be nervous about using a dustpan and brush because of the high static shock potential of the (usually) plastic bristles near board components.

One other thing - I'm guessing that this PC build is probably from around the year 2010 - 2011, so it has only taken 3 or 4 years for the heatsink to accumulate enough dust to cause problems. Either there's an unusual temporary factor (e.g. your home is near a building site), or this is a job you will need to do on a fairly regular basis (exacerbating factors are if you have a smoker in the house or you have pets, or there is a fair bit of damp). Perhaps checking it each year and giving it a cleanout before it becomes a problem again would be a good idea.

 

[dharmil007]

Is Antec BP300P better then Corsair VS450W ?
Should i get Corsair or BP300P.

I have clicked pics of my SMPS and my internal MOBO.
I actually have a SMPS which gives around only 310W power
i wonder, how its been running for quite a long time after watching its condition.

and as someone mentioned u should check BIOS for values.
Here is the ScreenShot of that :

 

[mikeymikec]

Looks like a cheapo* PSU in there (I'm guessing that it came with the case), but as you say, you've got another on order.

If you want confirmation that the heatsink needs cleaning, then take a shot with the PC switched off and the CPU fan removed. I assume that this high temperature problem has steadily got worse over time, it wasn't like this when you build the computer?

* - not meaning to be nasty, I mean that it doesn't look like a good quality power supply so I would expect it to cause problems after a few years of use.

Btw, if you don't understand something I've written, please feel free to ask me to explain it better.

One other thing, it looks like you're using multiple chassis fans. If your board has chassis fan connectors, I would use those rather than plugging them into the power supply, because then the motherboard will (probably) manage the fan speeds according to system temperatures, and so your system should be quieter.

 

[DownTheSky]

74C in BIOS.

LOL.

Time to clean that shit up!

Easy Version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0U-RRO2Qs

If temps are still high remove the heatsink and change the thermal paste.

 

[wilds]

I know it's been said in this thread, but you should lower your vcore as well. Way too high for stock.

 

[DownTheSky]

I know it's been said in this thread, but you should lower your vcore as well. Way too high for stock.

This too.

 

[dharmil007]

If you want confirmation that the heatsink needs cleaning, then take a shot with the PC switched off and the CPU fan removed. I assume that this high temperature problem has steadily got worse over time, it wasn't like this when you build the computer?

Yea, it wasnt that high when i assembled the CPU, the tempratures have gotten worse over time.

One other thing, it looks like you're using multiple chassis fans. If your board has chassis fan connectors, I would use those rather than plugging them into the power supply, because then the motherboard will (probably) manage the fan speeds according to system temperatures, and so your system should be quieter.

I could not find one in the mobo or on the gigabyte site.
Could u check out and let me know if there is one ?
http://www.gigabyte.in/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3475#sp

 

[dharmil007]

I know it's been said in this thread, but you should lower your vcore as well. Way too high for stock.

This too.

Yea i know. I will do it. How much should i lower it ?
i could only find how to undervolt it.
I could not find underclock it, as there is only option to overclock in the BIOS

 

[mikeymikec]

I could not find one in the mobo or on the gigabyte site.
Could u check out and let me know if there is one ?
http://www.gigabyte.in/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3475#sp

I just downloaded the motherboard manual from that site, apparently there's only one other fan connector on that board (apart from the CPU fan), labelled SYS_FAN, near the bottom of the board, below/between the PCI slots and the USB connectors.

Anyway, undervolting and chassis fans are beside the point for now, they'll make virtually zero difference to the CPU temp.

 

[escrow4]

the absolute best price/performance path is going to be AMD on an FX-8300 or 8310 CPU from tigerdirect and a $60 motherboard. I wasn't planning on it (had to wanted more RAM) but I went from my Ph2-x4 965 that made serious heat, to my current setup. It's a 95w processor but feels faster than the Phenom2 I had.

It has more bandwidth to grow in the future than the i3's as more software gets multithreaded. I can handbrake benchmark at 220fps but the i3's at my price point could only do 80fps. You really have to go i5 quad core with overclocking for the price/performance to make sense.

Or get a 5820K. If the OP wants to spend $500 on a tech, spend $500+ on X99. Hexa core to hexa core.

 

[soccerballtux]

Any other option other then Vaccum?
Cause i dont have that

I usually use a q-tip and blow hard from my mouth because I'm too lazy to go get the vacuum cleaner

 

[soccerballtux]

Or get a 5820K. If the OP wants to spend $500 on a tech, spend $500+ on X99. Hexa core to hexa core.

that's called throwing money away and is not what he's interested in

 

[AtenRa]

Hell, go to BIOS and load default settings(f7). That CPU Voltage is way too high.

Then change what settings you want but dont touch the CPU Voltages.

Also, check if there is a newer BIOS for your motherboard and install it.

 

[escrow4]

that's called throwing money away and is not what he's interested in

OP hasn't said anything either way. Its a decent upgrade to a hot obsolete chip.

 

[soccerballtux]

OP hasn't said anything either way. Its a decent upgrade to a hot obsolete chip.

95w is definitely not hot. It has much more room to grow than the i3, that makes it future proof. tThe i3 is definitely the obsolete one

 

[dharmil007]

Does anyone know a good thermal Paste which i can apply on my CPU ?

 

[Abwx]

A traditional white thermal past (that do not get dry) should be good enough, what is important is the quality of your work, apply the paste in the CPU such that the whole surface will be covered once the heatsink is fixed, do not use more thermal past than necessary and be cautious to have a good contact, anyway you ll see in the temperatures if this was done correctly.

On the power comsumption department tests done by Hardware.fr point to relatively low CPU comsumption, only the 1090T manage to reach the 95W mark and that s with Prime 95, with a regular fully threaded soft comsumption will be about 20% lower, and that s for a 1090T, a 1055T should be significantly below the 1090T, actualy the total comsumption is influenced by the MB and in this respect your MB is a very good choice, moreover given that it has also an IGP.

 

[dharmil007]

Thank you guyz for your replies.
I think now i am not changing my Board+CPU.

I changed my smps TO aNTEC bp300p & the Restart issue was resolved.
and then i cleaned my HeatSink Fan, there was lots and lots of dust in the HeatSink,
I think the dust was blocking the air passage between the HeatSInk and CPU.
Plus i had used a cheap quality THermal Paste which is available, due to whoch the heatsink & CPU were glued togheether when i removed it & 4-5 pins of my CPU were bent.

BUt eveything is fine now, except VOLTAGE. THe VOLTAGE is still too high.

Check the voltage, should i undervolt the processor. ?

 

[R0H1T]

Thank you guyz for your replies.
I think now i am not changing my Board+CPU.

I changed my smps TO aNTEC bp300p & the Restart issue was resolved.
and then i cleaned my HeatSink Fan, there was lots and lots of dust in the HeatSink,
I think the dust was blocking the air passage between the HeatSInk and CPU.
Plus i had used a cheap quality THermal Paste which is available, due to whoch the heatsink & CPU were glued togheether when i removed it & 4-5 pins of my CPU were bent.

BUt eveything is fine now, except VOLTAGE. THe VOLTAGE is still too high.

Check the voltage, should i undervolt the processor. ?

I have no idea why'd you buy such a low wattage PSU, anyway try reducing the Vcore in steps of 0.02 so in your last screenshot it's showing ~1.42 therefore 1.4 & then even lower if it's stable.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

I have no idea why'd you buy such a low wattage PSU, anyway try reducing the Vcore in steps of 0.02 so in your last screenshot it's showing ~1.42 therefore 1.4 & then even lower if it's stable.

He's running an IGP. System load is probably around 170w at worst.

 

[Spungo]

Power is not that of a major concern, but heat is.

So we're trying to remove the kind of heat that is not generated using power. That's always the worst kind.

I would underclock and undervolt the existing computer to see if that works. You'd be amazed how low the voltage can go if you underclock. I once had an OG Phenom running at something like 1.1V at 1ghz. With stock cooling, it was maybe 5 degrees above ambient.

 

[tweakboy]

You want ATI or nVidia

if nVidia get a EVGA 660 if ATI "I dont know"