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[nick1985]

Check out these gaming benchmarks

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

thats what i dont get... its like buying a geo metro when you could get a corvette for the same price...

 

[wisdomtooth]

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Thank You!

The only other place i know my husband and I bought from before is Multiwave I believe. Are they cheaper? I guess it really doesn't matter where I buy from as long as their trustworthy, I'd just rather buy it all from the same place though.

Glad to be of help. Unfortunately, they don't have those things at Multiwave. Stick to Newegg or the other reputable vendors like ZipZoomFly and you should be good to go.

HTH!

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

AMD fatality is $219 if you NEED to have it.

You could get a A64 3500+ with it and still get better gaming performance than with the 630.

Add a gig of corsait pc3200 ram

and you're ready to go.

The powersupply in your sonata should be fine for all this.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
AMD fatality is $219 if you NEED to have it.

You could get a A64 3500+ with it and still get better gaming performance than with the 630.

Add a gig of corsait pc3200 ram

and you're ready to go.

The powersupply in your sonata should be fine for all this.

agreed. but i personally think the fatality motherboards are a waste. you can get a good socket 939 board with the same chipset for $100 less. 😱

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
AMD fatality is $219 if you NEED to have it.

You could get a A64 3500+ with it and still get better gaming performance than with the 630.

Add a gig of corsait pc3200 ram

and you're ready to go.

The powersupply in your sonata should be fine for all this.

agreed. but i personally think the fatality motherboards are a waste. you can get a good socket 939 board with the same chipset for $100 less. 😱

That's what I've gathered from the reviews too, but it sounds like having "Fatality" (or whatever, there's a 1 in there somewhere) is needed in here or the kid wont be happy.

 

[SMOKE20]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
AMD fatality is $219 if you NEED to have it.

You could get a A64 3500+ with it and still get better gaming performance than with the 630.

Add a gig of corsait pc3200 ram

and you're ready to go.

The powersupply in your sonata should be fine for all this.

agreed. but i personally think the fatality motherboards are a waste. you can get a good socket 939 board with the same chipset for $100 less. 😱

That's what I've gathered from the reviews too, but it sounds like having "Fatality" (or whatever, there's a 1 in there somewhere) is needed in here or the kid wont be happy.

the motherboard is sooooo badass...it sounds like it will jump out of the computer and attempt to strangle me. :roll:


😀

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

well, again, an AMD system for the same price will be much faster. just let him know that. if he still refuses for some reason, theres not much else to say. some people are very unopen to considering an AMD rig for some reason...


here are some more in depth gaming benchmarks

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

If that's the case, then the first system I linked to would be what you'd want.

If you're looking to save money and still get better performance, my second set of components would be good.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

well, again, an AMD system for the same price will be much faster. just let him know that. if he still refuses for some reason, theres not much else to say. some people are very unopen to considering an AMD rig for some reason...


here are some more in depth gaming benchmarks

I already linked to that 😉
Didn't seem to do the trick

I'm very pro-AMD, but I don't think it's unwarranted. I've been pro-AMD since I built my first system based on an 1800+. Since A64 came out, it seems like just about everyone looking for gaming and has done their research has come to the conclusion that A64 is the way to go.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

well, again, an AMD system for the same price will be much faster. just let him know that. if he still refuses for some reason, theres not much else to say. some people are very unopen to considering an AMD rig for some reason...


here are some more in depth gaming benchmarks

I already linked to that 😉
Didn't seem to do the trick

oops! 😱

well, maybe if we link it enough, it will convince them 😉

 

[SMOKE20]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

well, again, an AMD system for the same price will be much faster. just let him know that. if he still refuses for some reason, theres not much else to say. some people are very unopen to considering an AMD rig for some reason...


here are some more in depth gaming benchmarks

I'm IM'ing him on his phone in Atlanta. As long as their not busy he should get back to me quickly. I don't care one way or another really....I just can't see the big deal.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Sorry, I was under the impression that you wanted the best performance for your money. If you just want to buy something because it looks/sounds cool, then go ahead.

Are you asking what A64 would be about the same speed as the 630 you were going to get?

Yes, well sort of....I guess something comparable in price and the faster the better I guess.

As for the other remarks by you and the other person, well, I can tell you this much. As I said, Mike sets up systems at the tracks for NASCAR. I know JGR (who he works for) is sponsered by Intel and I believe all of NASCAR is so I would guess that is why he chose them.

well, again, an AMD system for the same price will be much faster. just let him know that. if he still refuses for some reason, theres not much else to say. some people are very unopen to considering an AMD rig for some reason...


here are some more in depth gaming benchmarks

I'm IM'ing him on his phone in Atlanta. As long as their not busy he should get back to me quickly. I don't care one way or another really....I just can't see the big deal.

Well that's why it's good you came here and asked 😀

 

[SMOKE20]

OK, I know this now and figured it all along. He was looking at Intel because that's all they use at the track.....that's all everyone uses for all the teams and NASCAR he said and they were talking about the new 64 bit Intel chips and he thought he'd try one on the kids system to see if it would make a big difference for them also. Since Intel pours lots of money into NASCAR in sponsership, that's what they have to use.

BUT, he did also say that if I can come up with an AMD 64 bit with all the same options and the cost is considerably less, that'd be OK because what he's really after is the 64 bit capability and how they could possibly use that at the track.

He also said a plus would be that we could probably use the Corsair XMS low latency DDR1 that's already in the system with AMD right?

So, if someone would be so nice, and wants to chalk a convert up, what's the same setup AMD wise with a new good video card (guess we'll need one unless there's an AGP option too) going to cost in comparrison? LOL!

I've only ever really shopped for this kind of stuff online at New Egg and Multiwave before so I don't know where else to go, but, aside from the memory, it looks like all the items listed so far in the thread would end up costing me more than what I listed..... :-(

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Newegg, and Zip Zoom Fly are some really good places to shop.

I like to link to newegg usually because they seem to have the best descriptions, pictures, reviews, and navigation.

You'll be able to use your DDR1 in the AMD system. Do you know what speed it is? pc2700? pc3200?

There are AGP boards for AMD too, so you don't need to worry about that. Let me find one for you...

 

[SMOKE20]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Newegg, and Zip Zoom Fly are some really good places to shop.

I like to link to newegg usually because they seem to have the best descriptions, pictures, reviews, and navigation.

You'll be able to use your DDR1 in the AMD system. Do you know what speed it is? pc2700? pc3200?

There are AGP boards for AMD too, so you don't need to worry about that. Let me find one for you...

We have our systems speced so I can find what they have easily. The memory now is the Corsair XMS Low latency 2-2-2-5 PC 4200

Would it be wiser though to go ahead and get a PCI X board now?

 

[SMOKE20]

Nobody seems to have that Abit motherboard for an AMD 64......:-(

I found it at that Zip place but the setup is still more for the AMD than the Intel I listed.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

AGP A64 skt 939 motherboards

epox nf3 ultra

MSI K8T800

Soltek K8T800

There's other ones too if you want to look at them. (go to the amd motherboard section of newegg and then search for socket 939 and agp 8x)

The Soltek seems to have gotten really nice reviews.

$100 for motherboard
you can keep your videocard
ram - keep your current stuff or get a gig of the corsair I linked to earlier for ~$100

That leaves you with CPU - get whatever A64 939 you want.
There's socket 754 though too, so make sure you get 939.
Go with retail too since you'll get a 3 year warranty on it instead of 30 days :Q

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Newegg, and Zip Zoom Fly are some really good places to shop.

I like to link to newegg usually because they seem to have the best descriptions, pictures, reviews, and navigation.

You'll be able to use your DDR1 in the AMD system. Do you know what speed it is? pc2700? pc3200?

There are AGP boards for AMD too, so you don't need to worry about that. Let me find one for you...

We have our systems speced so I can find what they have easily. The memory now is the Corsair XMS Low latency 2-2-2-5 PC 4200

Would it be wiser though to go ahead and get a PCI X board now?

That ram will be fine for A64. Do you have a gig of it or 512?

If you already have a 6800gt, I'd say just stick with AGP. You can easily get a PCIe motherboard in the future when you want a new videocard.

What Abit motherboard are you talking about?

 

[SMOKE20]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: SMOKE20

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Newegg, and Zip Zoom Fly are some really good places to shop.

I like to link to newegg usually because they seem to have the best descriptions, pictures, reviews, and navigation.

You'll be able to use your DDR1 in the AMD system. Do you know what speed it is? pc2700? pc3200?

There are AGP boards for AMD too, so you don't need to worry about that. Let me find one for you...

We have our systems speced so I can find what they have easily. The memory now is the Corsair XMS Low latency 2-2-2-5 PC 4200

Would it be wiser though to go ahead and get a PCI X board now?

That ram will be fine for A64. Do you have a gig of it or 512?

If you already have a 6800gt, I'd say just stick with AGP. You can easily get a PCIe motherboard in the future when you want a new videocard.

What Abit motherboard are you talking about?

We have 1 GB of the ram, 2 512mb sticks.

He wanted a board with the same options or just the Fatality AMD board.

Oh wow, just saw something else, the AMD Fatality board doesn't have the same options as the Intel......think he wanted the dual GB Network and does the AMD Fatality have plain Serial ATA because we don't use Raid but all of our Hard Drives are SATA I know that.

 

[SMOKE20]

OK, I went to Pricewatch with a search through google and came up with a combo from a place called Monarch. Are they any good?

Here's what I found:

Motherboard: 110459 - Abit AV8-3rd Eye K8T800 Audio/GB-LAN/USB/ $132.00
Processor: 12A423 - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 512K 90nm (939) $245.00
Heatsink Fan: 130129 - Thermaltake A1838 AMD Opteron/Athlon 64 H $25.00
Memory: None
2nd Memory: None
Round Cables: None
Warranty: 800036 - Motherboard-CPU Warranty - 3 Year w/30 Da $29.95 $29.95
Far Cry Promotion: 270846 - FREE Full DVD Version of Far Cry - 39.95
Napster Promotion: 270136 - FREE Napster Music Download for 4 Months
Half Life 2 Promotion: 27F854 - FREE Half Life 2 Full Version Coupon with
Subtotal with your selected options: $431.95

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Monarch is good :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure you can select RAID or non-RAID for the sata connectors on these boards in BIOS.

What on earth are you going to use dual GB network on your son's gaming rig?

 

[SMOKE20]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Monarch is good :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure you can select RAID or non-RAID for the sata connectors on these boards in BIOS.

What on earth are you going to use dual GB network on your son's gaming rig?

Something Mike wants to play with......I say it's my sons, but he plays around with both of them when he's home.

Also now looking for video card. What the best value right now?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I think the 6600 gt and 6800gt from nvidia are nice options. The ATI X800XL is a good one for a budget between those two cards.