UPDATED: Salmonella outbreak linked to peanut butter

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sandorski

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
pre-made, store-bought PB FTL!

Wow. I'd thought I'd seen it all with all the snobbery around here... Peanut butter snobs??? Good GAWD!

Hehe, he probably doesn't even use a Wick Peanut Butter knife. What a noob!!!


:p :D
 

Ryan

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Holy ******! - I just opened my cabinet, and I have a jar of Peter Pan with the product code starting with 2111. Normally, I wouldn't be so alarmed - but in December my niece had some kind of stomach virus, as did I :eek:
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Holy ******! - I just opened my cabinet, and I have a jar of Peter Pan with the product code starting with 2111. Normally, I wouldn't be so alarmed - but in December my niece had some kind of stomach virus, as did I :eek:

hmmm, don't eat it.
 

49erinnc

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Got a jar of it in my desk right now with a code starting 2111633xxxxx. I've eaten maybe 1/4 of it but haven't really felt ill. Apparently, my grocery store will give you a new jar if you just bring in the lid from the bad batch. I'm not too worried about getting sick but I likely won't eat this jar. Not worth risking.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
pre-made, store-bought PB FTL!

Wow. I'd thought I'd seen it all with all the snobbery around here... Peanut butter snobs??? Good GAWD!

It's true. Store-bought PB is full of sugar and oil.

PB at home takes 3 minutes to make. All you need is a jar of roasted low-sodium peanuts and a food processor. It tastes great.
 

preslove

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I buy the freshly made stuff. Crap like peter pan has too much sugar and oil (and salmonella :p).
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff

It's true. Store-bought PB is full of sugar and oil.

PB at home takes 3 minutes to make. All you need is a jar of roasted low-sodium peanuts and a food processor. It tastes great.

The sugar is what makes it good. :D

I got some of the natural peanut butter, the stuff without hydrogenated oils - it also came without sugar. I fixed that. :)


A question about the natural peanut butter - it says to stir and refrigerate. Do they recommend refrigeration just to prevent the oil from separating again, or is it to maintain freshness? If it's only to prevent separation, will my addition of sugar mean that I should keep it refrigerated regardless?


<---- PB n00b
I had my first "fluffernutter" sandwich just about a month ago, so now I have a reason to buy peanut butter.
 

Jeraden

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Its recommended to refrigerate peanut butter in general, because there is some kind of cancerous bacteria that can grow in it if not refrigerated... I forget what its called and too lazy to look it up. Refrigerating helps it from growing though. But refrigerating it makes it too hard to spread - it just chews the bread up if you use soft bread, so I live dangerously and keep it in the pantry.
The natural stuff its specifically recommended to refrigerate to keep the oil from re-seprating. Though you can just stir it up a bit before using if you keep it out of the fridge and its been a while since you last used it.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Jeraden
Its recommended to refrigerate peanut butter in general, because there is some kind of cancerous bacteria that can grow in it if not refrigerated... I forget what its called and too lazy to look it up. Refrigerating helps it from growing though. But refrigerating it makes it too hard to spread - it just chews the bread up if you use soft bread, so I live dangerously and keep it in the pantry.
The natural stuff its specifically recommended to refrigerate to keep the oil from re-seprating. Though you can just stir it up a bit before using if you keep it out of the fridge and its been a while since you last used it.

Um, where did you hear that?

PB has an unopened shelf life of 2 years unrefrigerated, and an opened life of 3 months unrefrigerated. The only issue is the oil turning rancid. Typical spoilage.
 

slag

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We have 3 jars of peter pan peanut butter.. all 3 have the 2111 code on the lid and one of the smooth and the crunchy are both 3/4 gone.

Throw them away they say? LOL.. no freaking way. Those things cost like 2 bucks a jar. The peter pan peanut butter company should be reimbursing us for these. 6 bucks is a lot of money to some.

EDIT BELOW:

While this affects Great Value Peanut Butter beginning with product code 2111, there are other manufacturers of Great Value Peanut Butter that are not affected by this recall.

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If consumers have this product, they should discard it, but save the product lid. For a full refund, consumers must return the Peter Pan Peanut Butter or Great Value Peanut Butter product lid along with their name and mailing address to ConAgra Foods, P.O. Box 3768, Omaha, NE 68103.

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
so that proves that if you pay extra for Peter Pan over Walmart's house brand, you're an idiot!

I don't do my grocery shopping at Walmart.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Jeraden
Its recommended to refrigerate peanut butter in general, because there is some kind of cancerous bacteria that can grow in it if not refrigerated...

BS
 

Jeraden

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Jeraden
Its recommended to refrigerate peanut butter in general, because there is some kind of cancerous bacteria that can grow in it if not refrigerated...

BS

http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/007598.html

Also by the way, as a general rule, no matter what kind of peanut butter you buy, it's safest if, after you open the airtight seal, you refrigerate it. This slows down the mold buildup and reduces the amount of aflatoxin produced over time. Of course, it's not as easy to spread onto your bread that way. But it does reduce the cancer risk.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Jeraden
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Jeraden
Its recommended to refrigerate peanut butter in general, because there is some kind of cancerous bacteria that can grow in it if not refrigerated...

BS

http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/007598.html

Also by the way, as a general rule, no matter what kind of peanut butter you buy, it's safest if, after you open the airtight seal, you refrigerate it. This slows down the mold buildup and reduces the amount of aflatoxin produced over time. Of course, it's not as easy to spread onto your bread that way. But it does reduce the cancer risk.

Did you note the term "organic" and "home made" in that article?

And you do realize this guy has NOTHING supporting his claims, right?

Statistically, just as a rule of thumb, two tablespoons of peanut butter a day produce a higher risk of death than living next to a nuclear power plant.

This quote is so absurd on so many levels.
 

Jeraden

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That was just the first article that came up when I googled it. Just google for: peanut butter aflatoxin and you'll get a gazillion results. (ok, approximately 52,000 according to google).
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n...6-37,EGLC:en&q=peanut+butter+aflatoxin

Maybe that first link makes a bigger deal out of it than it really is, but perusing some of the other articles, it seems its a legitimate concern. All I did was say that its recommended to refrigerate it. Obviously I'm not too worried about it since I said I don't even bother refrigerating mine when I even knew about this beforehand, but its at least worth keeping in mind just in case it does have some merit to it. Apparently there is enough merit to warrant 52,000 google results about it.
 

Chryso

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Getting small amounts of salmonella and having your body overcome it makes your immune system stronger.
 

Sukhoi

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I have two containers of Peter Pan that start in 2111. One I'm almost done with and has got to be a couple months old minimum. The other I bought Monday. That makes me believe they have absolutely no idea when the contamination happened, or really what's going on.

I'm going to go have a spoonful from the opened container to celebrate this thread.