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DaShen

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: slag
No to all 3. I drive a 1996 Nissan maxima family sedan. Only "rice" done to it is legal window tinting due to my 85 mile round trip drive each day to and from work. I've never run a cyclist off the road and wouldnt dream of doing so but I do believe they should stay off the road if they cannot keep up with the flow of traffic. If traffic is flowing 35-40 mph and a cyclist is doing 10-20 mph, they should get off the road.

Now "Let me guess". You have a bicycle you paid an arm and a leg for and feel you should have the same right to the road that someone driving a vehicle that can go the posted speed limit, wont hold up traffic, and will follow all traffic signs has.

You shouldnt.

If you don't run bikers of fthe road, then there is no problem. As long as there isn't road rage, I think car drivers have some good points on the matter.
But a bike is a vehicle no matter what you guys who don't bike think, and it would be dangerous for pedestrians if bikers road on the sidewalk. Try riding a bike faster than 20 mph and you will see what I mean.

And yes I have paid alot for riding, but only because of road raged drivers. Point in fact, I try to give cars enough space to drive past on the same lane I am in when they are behind me (meaning, I am as close to the curb as is safely possible), but that doesn't seem to be enough for some drivers. They would rather do harm and run me off the road. I have even been run off when I am on the curb designated for bikes.

I agree though, that they should change the law for bikers that just coast at <12-15 mph. At those speeds, it is much easier to manuveur on the sidewalk. The best solution though would be for seperate bike roads.
Some of us also ride for 3-5 hours at a time. No fscking way would I even consider doing that on the sidewalks.

If I have to breathe the crap your car spews, you guys can take 4 seconds to maneuver around me, no?

Exactly. I do a 2-3 hour ride, at least once a week. I used to do much more. I have been trying to get my group on a longer ride, but half of them are >40 and don't want to go that far.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: slag
No to all 3. I drive a 1996 Nissan maxima family sedan. Only "rice" done to it is legal window tinting due to my 85 mile round trip drive each day to and from work. I've never run a cyclist off the road and wouldnt dream of doing so but I do believe they should stay off the road if they cannot keep up with the flow of traffic. If traffic is flowing 35-40 mph and a cyclist is doing 10-20 mph, they should get off the road.

Now "Let me guess". You have a bicycle you paid an arm and a leg for and feel you should have the same right to the road that someone driving a vehicle that can go the posted speed limit, wont hold up traffic, and will follow all traffic signs has.

You shouldnt.

If you don't run bikers of fthe road, then there is no problem. As long as there isn't road rage, I think car drivers have some good points on the matter.
But a bike is a vehicle no matter what you guys who don't bike think, and it would be dangerous for pedestrians if bikers road on the sidewalk. Try riding a bike faster than 20 mph and you will see what I mean.

And yes I have paid alot for riding, but only because of road raged drivers. Point in fact, I try to give cars enough space to drive past on the same lane I am in when they are behind me (meaning, I am as close to the curb as is safely possible), but that doesn't seem to be enough for some drivers. They would rather do harm and run me off the road. I have even been run off when I am on the curb designated for bikes.

I agree though, that they should change the law for bikers that just coast at <12-15 mph. At those speeds, it is much easier to manuveur on the sidewalk. The best solution though would be for seperate bike roads.
Some of us also ride for 3-5 hours at a time. No fscking way would I even consider doing that on the sidewalks.

If I have to breathe the crap your car spews, you guys can take 4 seconds to maneuver around me, no?

Exactly. I do a 2-3 hour ride, at least once a week. I used to do much more. I have been trying to get my group on a longer ride, but half of them are >40 and don't want to go that far.
Tell them to quit being pussies. :p

 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Tell them to quit being pussies. :p

I did to my friend who is around my age. The older guys probably wouldn't go though, and they are fun to ride with. I want to do a ride on Tuesdays and Thursdays, but time is hard to find for that.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: DaShen
Good job... :thumbsup:

I have gotten run off the road countless times during traffic hours. I keep as close to the curb as possible and they still try to run me off. They can't usually because I am so close to the curb they would probably hit the curb if they tries, but it is dang annoying.

Try this just once. When they buzz you, move out into the lane. For some reason If i am 3 feet out from the curb, cars give me 3 feet of clearance. If I am 5 feet out, they give me 5 feet of clearance. It's crazy, but if you are half a foot off the curb, you are telling them, I don't belong here you can pass as close to me as you desire. very strange phenomenon, especially on non-busy 2 lane roads...

Yep - if you act like a car, you typically get treated like a car. If you ride the line you get squeezed. I am very courteous when I ride - but I ride to protect myself.

When you see a rider in the middle of the lane approaching a hill crest or blind curve, he's not doing it to piss you off. He's doing it so you treat him like a car and pass where its safe. Otherwise somebody will try and pass him, and then he gets hit when oncoming traffic forces the car to swerve into them. I've seen somebody learn that the hard way and it wasn't pretty. When you see a cyclist in the middle of the lane along a city street he's there so he has a chance against people opening car doors, backing out of parking spots, pulling out of driveways, etc. There are rude obnoxious riders out there, no doubt about it. But alot of what drivers see as rude and obnoxious is simply defensive driving.
 

40Hands

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Its obvious who bikes and who doesn't in this thread. Bikers have a right to the road too so get over it you snotty drivers. Wow, you have to slow down to our speed sometimes. Oh the humanity! You're never going to make it to your destination now! :roll:

Stop being so fvcking impatient.
 

oboeguy

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Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: illusion88
Nice!
I hate fvckers who don't give room to cyclists.

Cars should stay on the sidewalk. Seriously, they are a hinderance to traffic, try to drive around bikes when in traffic and scrape cars by doing so, have no regard for stop signs, and are a general pita

at least everywhere in the entire bleeping world they are. They think they own the road and cant even keep up with the flow of traffic.

Fixed.

Way to be ignorant. The first paved roads in the USA were built thanks to cyclists. Learn, your ignorant 'tard.

Originally posted by: phreakah
i really hate it when they ride like they are a car and take up space in lanes.. especially the left-turn lane at a light

Learn the law. In almost (all maybe) every state in the US that's how to make a left turn on bike, go to the left-turn lane.

FYI, there's currently (as in today) a cop crackdown on sidewalk riders.

Originally posted by: rh71
Don't cyclists feel they're holding people up ? I mean I know I'd feel that way as a cyclist even if it were "allowed".

Cars ARE traffic. I get "held-up" by car traffic while on the bike far more than the other way around. You don't see me asking the drivers to get off the road.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: BroeBo
Its obvious who bikes and who doesn't in this thread. Bikers have a right to the road too so get over it you snotty drivers. Wow, you have to slow down to our speed sometimes. Oh the humanity! You're never going to make it to your destination now! :roll:

Stop being so fvcking impatient.
Usually when someone bitches that a cyclists "held them up" that morning I ask them how many minutes they spent behind the bike as opposed to how many minutes they spent stuck behind the thousands of other cars on the road. :p
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: ggnl
:beer::):beer: nice!

And a big fvck you in advance to anyone that comes in here bitching about motorists. I've run people over too many times to care anymore if I'm killing some prick on a bike.



:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: ggnl
:beer::):beer: nice!

And a big fvck you in advance to anyone that comes in here bitching about motorists[cyclists]. I've [been] run people over [by cars] too many times to care anymore if I'm killing some prick on a bike.



:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Trying to stir up controversy I see dxkj ;)
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
Double points for listening to your iPod

Triple points for talking on the cell phone
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
Double points for listening to your iPod

Triple points for talking on the cell phone

Quadruple for unclipping one leg and stretching while still cycling. ;)

0 points once you crash or get hit ;)
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
Double points for listening to your iPod

Triple points for talking on the cell phone
Look for me to post something like "I killed a guy with an iPOD on this morning with my mountain bike" by springtime.

Fscking Emory students all have ipods and never expect a bike to be coming down the road at 25mph. I'm definitely going to kill or injure one of them by spring.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
Double points for listening to your iPod

Triple points for talking on the cell phone

Quadruple for unclipping one leg and stretching while still cycling. ;)

0 points once you crash or get hit ;)
Quintuple points for taking a leak off the bike while listening to ipod?
 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
Double points for listening to your iPod

Triple points for talking on the cell phone

Quadruple for unclipping one leg and stretching while still cycling. ;)

0 points once you crash or get hit ;)
Quintuple points for taking a leak off the bike while listening to ipod?

Then your either a Cat-3 or above rider or a Hobo who stole an IPOD from an Emery student ;)
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: jagec
I certainly hope the average person walks much faster than 2-3MPH, though. I know that I do.
As an avid hiker/backpacker who walks to work most days I can tell you that 3 mph is a pretty good clip. Sure, most people can walk faster than that, but they don't.

*shrugs* I walk faster than most people I suppose. You're probably right...but without a backpack, I usually half the times posted for trails, and I can keep up a pace of about 6 mph on a flat road.
Call it BS if you want, but I timed a short 5-mile hike to get that figure.

As for the biking, things could be different in other cities, but where I used to ride in Seattle, there were more obstacles in terms of storm drains, parked cars, and potholes at the side of the road than on the sidewalk. So, when headed downhill where I could go almost as fast as the cars, I stayed in the road. When climbing hills (and I admit I'm not a good hill climber), I rode on the sidewalk unless there were lots of people. No one ever yelled at me.

Originally posted by: zebano
Your logic has one great failue. It states that inconviencing/slowing bicycle transporation is ok, but slowing down a car is not.

I see things that way, but if I'm wrong, then yes, my whole argument falls apart.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Some of us also ride for 3-5 hours at a time. No fscking way would I even consider doing that on the sidewalks.

If I have to breathe the crap your car spews, you guys can take 4 seconds to maneuver around me, no?

qft


Originally posted by: Fausto

What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

No. Starbucks is an evil multinational corporation. For true cred, you need to patronize local independent coffee shops. If I saw you riding with a Starbucks coffee I would sneer at you. ;)

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Fausto
Some of us also ride for 3-5 hours at a time. No fscking way would I even consider doing that on the sidewalks.

If I have to breathe the crap your car spews, you guys can take 4 seconds to maneuver around me, no?

qft


Originally posted by: Fausto

What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

No. Starbucks is an evil multinational corporation. For true cred, you need to patronize local independent coffee shops. If I saw you riding with a Starbucks coffee I would sneer at you. ;)
This is why I drink Jittery Joe's coffee. :D

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

If you were really a cyclist you'd know that in many places its illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and often more dangerous.

Some people think that riding a rusty huffy four blocks to a 17th Century French Poetry lecture makes them a cyclist...
What if I'm carrying a Starbucks latte' at the same time? Does that up my cycling cred?

;) I would say so ;)
Double points for listening to your iPod

Triple points for talking on the cell phone

Quadruple for unclipping one leg and stretching while still cycling. ;)

0 points once you crash or get hit ;)
Quintuple points for taking a leak off the bike while listening to ipod?

Then your either a Cat-3 or above rider or a Hobo who stole an IPOD from an Emery student ;)

Hey, if he gets himself killed, I have dibs on the ipod, no? :D