<<UPDATED 4-23-03!!!>> Broadband pricing scams?

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Lucky

First off, you have alternatives to internet access. So they are not a monopoly. Secondly, I'll repeat myself yet again: Broadband is a
luxery, not a right.

they are in many cases monopolies in their specific market (cable)...and as for alternatives, since cable companies are often a monopoly you are subject to be screwed unless you have landline phone service for DSL or dialup.

Again, internet access is a luxury.

And so is having a telephone....did that stop AT&T from being broken up?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Cancel your service and stop acting like a spoiled brat who feels they are entitled to force
PRIVATE businesses to do business with you on your terms only.

I stop considering them truly private businesses when the government (like at my local level) forces you to use a single particular company as the only option for cable.

So because the government wrongly regulates cable companies, cable TV is no longer a luxury?

You are not entitled to cable TV access.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Lucky

First off, you have alternatives to internet access. So they are not a monopoly. Secondly, I'll repeat myself yet again: Broadband is a
luxery, not a right.

they are in many cases monopolies in their specific market (cable)...and as for alternatives, since cable companies are often a monopoly you are subject to be screwed unless you have landline phone service for DSL or dialup.

Again, internet access is a luxury.

And so is having a telephone....did that stop AT&T from being broken up?

You are arguing two different things. I do not agree with the regulations on cable TV. However, if a comapny owns the lines going through the city, another company MUCH either lay their own lines, or lease existing lines with the free will of the owner. Deregulation of the bells was just another kind of regulation that forced companies to lease their lines.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Lucky

Cancel your service and stop acting like a spoiled brat who feels they are entitled to force
PRIVATE businesses to do business with you on your terms only.

I stop considering them truly private businesses when the government (like at my local level) forces you to use a single particular company as the only option for cable.

So because the government wrongly regulates cable companies, cable TV is no longer a luxury?

You are not entitled to cable TV access.

You're right. But as long as they enjoy the protection and benefit of being a state-sponsored "utility" I expect them to play by the rules set out by the same government that helps their bottom line. Period.

damm, only 12 posts left till i stop posting. gotta start conserving.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Amused

You are completely WRONG. Comcast RAISED our prices (from $49.99 to $57), then gives us a "discount" back to the original price point if we purchase their basic cable. They are trying to strong arm the customer into purching the cable to make their #'s look better vs Sat. They even say in their current commercials that they have a "3 out of 4" advantage over Sat (a figure that sounds like BS). This is NOT a discount, this is an increase and revert back to original subscription price.

Their tactics are far from fair. Especially since I've gone from $29.99 a month to $49 the second they purchased Intermedia. They bought out my smaller cable company and jacked the prices sky high.

I guess they are also right when they lied to me 7 different times during a 2 month period from Nov - January. Cause Big Business is always right!!! It's the american way and It's a luxury for me!!! I don't deserved to be treated like a human being!! I'm just a dollar sign!!!

Right......

No, YOU are suffering from a twisted sense of entitlement. They can charge whatever the fsck they WANT for their product. YOUR option is to NOT USE IT if you don't like it. Broadband, and internet access in general, is a luxury. You have NO RIGHT to set the prices a company can charge.

Don't like it? Don't use their service. It really is that easy. Obviously their service IS worth the cost to you, because you keep it while kicking and screaming about it.

Who's the idiot? Them, or you? Companies like this will stop raising prices when their customers stop subscribing. But you with you twisted sense of entitlement don't have the courage of your convictions, and are unwilling to cancel your service to prove your point. Instead, you wish to limit the freedoms of others to get your way.

Wanna be treated like a human being? Cancel your service and stop acting like a spoiled brat who feels they are entitled to force PRIVATE businesses to do business with you on your terms only.

WRONG again. I have a small home office that does Web Design and Development. Comcast CONTINUES to jack our rates up over and over again. I HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE FORM of internet other than dial up. Comcast has seen h\fit to continue raising prices after they ate up my smaller Cable company who did perfect fine for 3 years doing what they were doing.

I have no other option, Comcast is sticking it to me. I also have no other option cause this is my career and I've been doing it for 7 years now.

I don't expect Comcast to deal with me on my terms, but I don't expect them to continue hurting the customer because they know they have a monopoly on the high speed internet. It is NOT a luxury anymore, it's a nessesity because of the things we do with it. I make a living and they continue d!cking me over by outages and messing with my connection for TWO MONTHS and giving me 7 different excuses and refusing to give me my money back because "I can't prove something is wrong with my line". WTF is that? So lets see, I can lose comcast, I can lose my income for however long it takes me to start another job or career and hurt my family in the process.

There is a RIGHT way to run a business and a WRONG way. It is NOT a black and white area. It's ALWAYS whats best for the provider, never for the consumer. What ever happen to "customer is always right". You're just a jackass if you think they are right for everything they have put us through and the things they continue to do.

The real problem isn't just the rates, It's the fact that they have STOLEN money from me and gave me completely shitty service because they KNOW there is nothing to do about it. I have no problem paying for good service, because I make great money. But To be treated they way they treat people and they just tell you "we dont care, we have your money" (which was actually said by one of their management basically) is down right fvucking filthy. But you want to stick up for these people cause YOU have some sick twisted reality that these business should be above the law and they are better than us. How sad and pathetic is that?

Wait look who i'm talking to... Nevermind it's not worth it, you'll never understand. No wife, no child, no real goal in life. Big business is always right.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Amused
Like OH MAH GAWD! Let's get McDonalds?, too! If you buy only a burger, without fries and a Coke?, you pay a premium. I want the Happy Meal price?, dammit!

Unfair!

Unfair!!

I'm entitled to do business with anyone and everyone on MY terms only! Their freedom be DAMNED!!

I'm entitled!!!

I'm entitled!!

Unfair!!

Unfair!!

Folks, that's how they price it to add incentive to buy their other products. It's a common practice across industries. If you don't like it, don't use their product. Broadband, and internet access is a LUXERY. You are not entitled to it, much less entitled to it on your terms.

I think the point is that there is NO competition in many markets. For those lucky enough to have access to DSL, yes they have a choice. I know in the area I am moving to, there is only 1 broadband provider. I don't really want cable TV and will be forced to pay more than my neighbor for broadband.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Amused
Like OH MAH GAWD! Let's get McDonalds?, too! If you buy only a burger, without fries and a Coke?, you pay a premium. I want the Happy Meal price?, dammit!

Unfair!

Unfair!!

I'm entitled to do business with anyone and everyone on MY terms only! Their freedom be DAMNED!!

I'm entitled!!!

I'm entitled!!

Unfair!!

Unfair!!

Folks, that's how they price it to add incentive to buy their other products. It's a common practice across industries. If you don't like it, don't use their product. Broadband, and internet access is a LUXERY. You are not entitled to it, much less entitled to it on your terms.

I think the point is that there is NO competition in many markets. For those lucky enough to have access to DSL, yes they have a choice. I know in the area I am moving to, there is only 1 broadband provider. I don't really want cable TV and will be forced to pay more than my neighbor for broadband.

Thats the problem I'm having. DSL isn't available here, and comcast knows it and jacks the prices. If I could get DSL, It is about $20 cheaper per month and supposidly good customer service. I'd love to get it, but untill the telco company who runs the lines gets off their butts, we're all stuck with Comcast. I realize it's a luxury for people who use it to download pr0n or sit around and chat, but for others it's a means of income and I can't have it going out all the time and Comcast telling me "too bad".

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Amused

You are completely WRONG. Comcast RAISED our prices (from $49.99 to $57), then gives us a "discount" back to the original price point if we purchase their basic cable. They are trying to strong arm the customer into purching the cable to make their #'s look better vs Sat. They even say in their current commercials that they have a "3 out of 4" advantage over Sat (a figure that sounds like BS). This is NOT a discount, this is an increase and revert back to original subscription price.

Their tactics are far from fair. Especially since I've gone from $29.99 a month to $49 the second they purchased Intermedia. They bought out my smaller cable company and jacked the prices sky high.

I guess they are also right when they lied to me 7 different times during a 2 month period from Nov - January. Cause Big Business is always right!!! It's the american way and It's a luxury for me!!! I don't deserved to be treated like a human being!! I'm just a dollar sign!!!

Right......

No, YOU are suffering from a twisted sense of entitlement. They can charge whatever the fsck they WANT for their product. YOUR option is to NOT USE IT if you don't like it. Broadband, and internet access in general, is a luxury. You have NO RIGHT to set the prices a company can charge.

Don't like it? Don't use their service. It really is that easy. Obviously their service IS worth the cost to you, because you keep it while kicking and screaming about it.

Who's the idiot? Them, or you? Companies like this will stop raising prices when their customers stop subscribing. But you with you twisted sense of entitlement don't have the courage of your convictions, and are unwilling to cancel your service to prove your point. Instead, you wish to limit the freedoms of others to get your way.

Wanna be treated like a human being? Cancel your service and stop acting like a spoiled brat who feels they are entitled to force PRIVATE businesses to do business with you on your terms only.

WRONG again. I have a small home office that does Web Design and Development. Comcast CONTINUES to jack our rates up over and over again. I HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE FORM of internet other than dial up. Comcast has seen h\fit to continue raising prices after they ate up my smaller Cable company who did perfect fine for 3 years doing what they were doing.

I have no other option, Comcast is sticking it to me. I also have no other option cause this is my career and I've been doing it for 7 years now.

I don't expect Comcast to deal with me on my terms, but I don't expect them to continue hurting the customer because they know they have a monopoly on the high speed internet. It is NOT a luxury anymore, it's a nessesity because of the things we do with it. I make a living and they continue d!cking me over by outages and messing with my connection for TWO MONTHS and giving me 7 different excuses and refusing to give me my money back because "I can't prove something is wrong with my line". WTF is that? So lets see, I can lose comcast, I can lose my income for however long it takes me to start another job or career and hurt my family in the process.

There is a RIGHT way to run a business and a WRONG way. It is NOT a black and white area. It's ALWAYS whats best for the provider, never for the consumer. What ever happen to "customer is always right". You're just a jackass if you think they are right for everything they have put us through and the things they continue to do.

The real problem isn't just the rates, It's the fact that they have STOLEN money from me and gave me completely shitty service because they KNOW there is nothing to do about it. I have no problem paying for good service, because I make great money. But To be treated they way they treat people and they just tell you "we dont care, we have your money" (which was actually said by one of their management basically) is down right fvucking filthy. But you want to stick up for these people cause YOU have some sick twisted reality that these business should be above the law and they are better than us. How sad and pathetic is that?

Wait look who i'm talking to... Nevermind it's not worth it, you'll never understand. No wife, no child, no real goal in life. Big business is always right.

Again, cancel the service. You do NOT have a right to their service, and they do not have a right to your money. You are acting like a spoiled child who believes you are entitled to broadband, Internet service, and business on your terms only.

You are, of course, in error thinking I am "taking their side." I am not. In fact, I despise most cable companies. The side I am taking is one of freedom and personal responsibility. You do not like how a nonessential business conducts itself, and therefore you feel the need to force them to do business on your terms with laws. I am opposed to that. If you don't like their service, vote with your feet. Use dial-up, or get satellite service. Not good enough for you, than obviously the BS they give you is worth it to you for their service. Drop the service, or stop complaining. My point is, it's people like you that allow cable companies to do things like this. You keep the service no matter how crappy they treat you.

If they have stolen money from you, take them to court.

Oh, and Linus, I have goals in life... and I have achieved most of them.

 

[wyvrn]

Yep it's not like Comcast has no idea of the other broadband providers in the area. Since I have not been told my price is raising, it appears Comcast is selectively pricing their service in different areas. I would love to see data on price increases vs. # of broadband providers for different areas. Then we would know if Comcast is acting as a monopoly is some markets.

But Amused makes a point for those that DO HAVE more than one broadband choice. If you have this choice and still use Comcast, then you are saying Comcast's product is superior. For those that do not have a choice of broadband, rate raises cause us to use inferior products like dialup.

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Amused
Like OH MAH GAWD! Let's get McDonalds?, too! If you buy only a burger, without fries and a Coke?, you pay a premium. I want the Happy Meal price?, dammit!

Unfair!

Unfair!!

I'm entitled to do business with anyone and everyone on MY terms only! Their freedom be DAMNED!!

I'm entitled!!!

I'm entitled!!

Unfair!!

Unfair!!

Folks, that's how they price it to add incentive to buy their other products. It's a common practice across industries. If you don't like it, don't use their product. Broadband, and internet access is a LUXERY. You are not entitled to it, much less entitled to it on your terms.

I think the point is that there is NO competition in many markets. For those lucky enough to have access to DSL, yes they have a choice. I know in the area I am moving to, there is only 1 broadband provider. I don't really want cable TV and will be forced to pay more than my neighbor for broadband.

Thats the problem I'm having. DSL isn't available here, and comcast knows it and jacks the prices. If I could get DSL, It is about $20 cheaper per month and supposidly good customer service. I'd love to get it, but untill the telco company who runs the lines gets off their butts, we're all stuck with Comcast. I realize it's a luxury for people who use it to download pr0n or sit around and chat, but for others it's a means of income and I can't have it going out all the time and Comcast telling me "too bad".

 

[LikeLinus]

Again, cancel the service. You do NOT have a right to their service, and they do not have a right to your money. You are acting like a spoiled child who believes you are entitled to broadband, Internet service, and business on your terms only.

You are, of course, in error thinking I am "taking their side." I am not. In fact, I despise most cable companies. The side I am taking is one of freedom and personal responsibility. You do not like how a nonessential business conducts itself, and therefore you feel the need to force them to do business on your terms with laws. I am opposed to that. If you don't like their service, vote with your feet. Use dial-up, or get satellite service. Not good enough for you, than obviously the BS they give you is worth it to you for their service. Drop the service, or stop complaining. My point is, it's people like you that allow cable companies to do things like this. You keep the service no matter how crappy they treat you.

If they have stolen money from you, take them to court.

Oh, and Linus, I have goals in life... and I have achieved most of them.

As stated, It's obvious you have RESPONSIBILITIES in your life and you can't comprehend I use this line to generate an income for my wife and child who I help support in a REAL LIFE SITUATION. I can't drop the ONLY provider in my area because there is NOT another company who has lines down in our county. It is NOT a luxury anymore because I had this service long before they came into the picture.

Are you going to provide for my family while I'm out of a job so I can look for a new one?? In this economy and the jobless rate, how long you think that's going to take? Of course not! That's my job and I'm just trying to do it.

Their BS is NOT worth the service, but they know the hardplace I'm in and continue to stick it to me. You are defending their actions. They are creating a monopoly in my area and treating the customers like crap. But people like me who make a living using the broadband can't live with it going down for 2 months and them telling you tough sh!t.

I'm sorry, I really just think you dont have a grasp on reality/real life and reality as an adult and having to provide for a child and wife. It's like arguing with a teenager. I've seen you defend Microsoft many times and I know they are so full of shaddy business practices it's not funny (fyi I worked in MCS for 2 years so don't try and BS me).

$$ makes the world go around, thats all anyone cares about. Screw the customer. It's Aholes like you that work in these companies that help perpetrate the mistreatings of customers.

 

[DurocShark]

Wow! I finally made a post that got people involved!

My personal feeling is that: If it's a free market pricing issue, the gvt needs to get the heck out. Period. I'm not bothered by the fact that Comcast does this, I'm bothered by the fact that the gvt is assisting the cable co's and opening the door for this kind of pricing policy.

After all, Comcast is doing what any business would do: Charge as much as the market will bear. If the market constitutes one vendor, well....

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
Wow! I finally made a post that got people involved!

My personal feeling is that: If it's a free market pricing issue, the gvt needs to get the heck out. Period. I'm not bothered by the fact that Comcast does this, I'm bothered by the fact that the gvt is assisting the cable co's and opening the door for this kind of pricing policy.

After all, Comcast is doing what any business would do: Charge as much as the market will bear. If the market constitutes one vendor, well....

Thats the whole problem. They are practicing unfair business trades. They are intentionally jacking the prices in areas that have no other alternative. Morons can sit there and defend them all they want, but what they are doing is "illegal" but they gov doesn't do anything because they make money off it and there is no reason to stop it.

 

[wyvrn]

It's been pointed out that in many areas broadband is not a competitive market. Some people only have one broadband choice, and that's Comcast. So pricing changes like this hurt in these areas because customers cannot just simply choose another provider. They are left only with choosing an inferior good like dialup service. Your reasoning is sound in competitive markets, but you must realize not all areas have access to a competitive broadband market. Therefore, a monopolistic condition is formed where the single provider, in that non-competitive market, can raise prices above where a normal market would accept them and ALSO provide less of the product to turn the same profit. Monopolistic markets have what economists call "dead weight loss", which means the total surplus to consumers and producers is not being realized. When the total size of the pie shrinks, the market loses because we all have less.

Originally posted by: DurocShark
Wow! I finally made a post that got people involved!

My personal feeling is that: If it's a free market pricing issue, the gvt needs to get the heck out. Period. I'm not bothered by the fact that Comcast does this, I'm bothered by the fact that the gvt is assisting the cable co's and opening the door for this kind of pricing policy.

After all, Comcast is doing what any business would do: Charge as much as the market will bear. If the market constitutes one vendor, well....

 

[KK]

You guys bitchin about only have the ability to get cable internet, what about the dish? I believe they got internet. Go with them. It's a free country.

KK

 

[RalphKramden]

Originally posted by: KK
You guys bitchin about only have the ability to get cable internet, what about the dish? I believe they got internet. Go with them. It's a free country.

KK

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

 

[wyvrn]

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

 

[RalphKramden]

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

Don't want to pay the price use 56K and netzero for 10 bucks a month.
That's where your argument fails.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: RalphKramden

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

Don't want to pay the price use 56K and netzero for 10 bucks a month.
That's where your argument fails.

You are missing the argument. It's not just what they charge, it's the tactics they are now using to force people, who have no other means of high speed internet, to pay pay a higher cost or purchase their cable to make their numbers look better. It's the dirty tactics, not just the fee.

A 56k in mine and many others jobs is not an option. It's like giving someone a bag of concrete and telling them to build a Dam, but you can't go buy more concrete anywhere to finish the job!! Why is it my other 2 previous cable providers treated their customers good and kept the rates steady for 3 years. But Comcast has raised the price twice and keeps asking us to buy cable or pay even higher prices for the past year. They are intentionally doing this because they know we can't go back to 56k. It's just piss poor how they treat their customers. They lied to me for 2 months and still wanted my money for shotty service, but I have no other option. See the problem yet?

You even have a Senator sending out letters now to the FCC, so hopefully they'll look into it and realize the unfair business practices they are using. I doubt anything will happen cause the FCC gets kick backs from cable companies.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: Amused
Like OH MAH GAWD! Let's get McDonalds?, too! If you buy only a burger, without fries and a Coke?, you pay a premium. I want the Happy Meal price?, dammit!

Unfair!

Unfair!!

I'm entitled to do business with anyone and everyone on MY terms only! Their freedom be DAMNED!!

I'm entitled!!!

I'm entitled!!

Unfair!!

Unfair!!

Folks, that's how they price it to add incentive to buy their other products. It's a common practice across industries. If you don't like it, don't use their product. Broadband, and internet access is a LUXERY. You are not entitled to it, much less entitled to it on your terms.

they should have added a discount to the internet price if you bought both, rather than a penalty if you didn't. theres a slight but very important difference imo.

Getting it for 45 is the discount...

 

[RalphKramden]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

You are missing the argument. It's not just what they charge, it's the tactics they are now using to force people, who have no other means of high speed internet, to pay pay a higher cost or purchase their cable to make their numbers look better. It's the dirty tactics, not just the fee.

A 56k in mine and many others jobs is not an option. It's like giving someone a bag of concrete and telling them to build a Dam, but you can't go buy more concrete anywhere to finish the job!! Why is it my other 2 previous cable providers treated their customers good and kept the rates steady for 3 years. But Comcast has raised the price twice and keeps asking us to buy cable or pay even higher prices for the past year. They are intentionally doing this because they know we can't go back to 56k. It's just piss poor how they treat their customers. They lied to me for 2 months and still wanted my money for shotty service, but I have no other option. See the problem yet?

You even have a Senator sending out letters now to the FCC, so hopefully they'll look into it and realize the unfair business practices they are using. I doubt anything will happen cause the FCC gets kick backs from cable companies.

Where are you coming from with this? This is broadband in your home. You are not being forced into anything. When a comcast rep threatens your life if you quit your online cable service is when you can bellyache about it.
What does it have to do with your job except for the case of:
Are you speaking as a person that works from home? If so, you are writing off the cable bill as an expense on your taxes.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: RalphKramden

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

Don't want to pay the price use 56K and netzero for 10 bucks a month.
That's where your argument fails.

You are missing the argument. It's not just what they charge, it's the tactics they are now using to force people, who have no other means of high speed internet, to pay pay a higher cost or purchase their cable to make their numbers look better. It's the dirty tactics, not just the fee.

A 56k in mine and many others jobs is not an option. It's like giving someone a bag of concrete and telling them to build a Dam, but you can't go buy more concrete anywhere to finish the job!! Why is it my other 2 previous cable providers treated their customers good and kept the rates steady for 3 years. But Comcast has raised the price twice and keeps asking us to buy cable or pay even higher prices for the past year. They are intentionally doing this because they know we can't go back to 56k. It's just piss poor how they treat their customers. They lied to me for 2 months and still wanted my money for shotty service, but I have no other option. See the problem yet?

You even have a Senator sending out letters now to the FCC, so hopefully they'll look into it and realize the unfair business practices they are using. I doubt anything will happen cause the FCC gets kick backs from cable companies.

If you have to have fast internet connection for your job, why are you using a residential service? You need to find a commercial way of getting access to the internet. Comcast I believe does not cater to commercial use.

KK

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: RalphKramden

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

Don't want to pay the price use 56K and netzero for 10 bucks a month.
That's where your argument fails.

You are missing the argument. It's not just what they charge, it's the tactics they are now using to force people, who have no other means of high speed internet, to pay pay a higher cost or purchase their cable to make their numbers look better. It's the dirty tactics, not just the fee.

A 56k in mine and many others jobs is not an option. It's like giving someone a bag of concrete and telling them to build a Dam, but you can't go buy more concrete anywhere to finish the job!! Why is it my other 2 previous cable providers treated their customers good and kept the rates steady for 3 years. But Comcast has raised the price twice and keeps asking us to buy cable or pay even higher prices for the past year. They are intentionally doing this because they know we can't go back to 56k. It's just piss poor how they treat their customers. They lied to me for 2 months and still wanted my money for shotty service, but I have no other option. See the problem yet?

You even have a Senator sending out letters now to the FCC, so hopefully they'll look into it and realize the unfair business practices they are using. I doubt anything will happen cause the FCC gets kick backs from cable companies.

If you have to have fast internet connection for your job, why are you using a residential service? You need to find a commercial way of getting access to the internet. Comcast I believe does not cater to commercial use.

KK

They do.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: RalphKramden

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

Don't want to pay the price use 56K and netzero for 10 bucks a month.
That's where your argument fails.

You are missing the argument. It's not just what they charge, it's the tactics they are now using to force people, who have no other means of high speed internet, to pay pay a higher cost or purchase their cable to make their numbers look better. It's the dirty tactics, not just the fee.

A 56k in mine and many others jobs is not an option. It's like giving someone a bag of concrete and telling them to build a Dam, but you can't go buy more concrete anywhere to finish the job!! Why is it my other 2 previous cable providers treated their customers good and kept the rates steady for 3 years. But Comcast has raised the price twice and keeps asking us to buy cable or pay even higher prices for the past year. They are intentionally doing this because they know we can't go back to 56k. It's just piss poor how they treat their customers. They lied to me for 2 months and still wanted my money for shotty service, but I have no other option. See the problem yet?

You even have a Senator sending out letters now to the FCC, so hopefully they'll look into it and realize the unfair business practices they are using. I doubt anything will happen cause the FCC gets kick backs from cable companies.

If you have to have fast internet connection for your job, why are you using a residential service? You need to find a commercial way of getting access to the internet. Comcast I believe does not cater to commercial use.

KK

Comcast Pro. It cost more, but it's for small businesses. The other problem is you don't get the speeds they claim, but thats a whole different story. Comcast all around is full of sh!t. There's been many discussions about it on Broadbandreports.com. Unfortunately there is no alternative solution for small businesses in my area. BellSouth wont provide DSL over our lines so we're stuck with Comcast. I mean I like the service while it's working and I dont have to talk to Comcast, but the way they bully people around and their tactics are horrible.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: RalphKramden

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Sounds about right. If you don't want to pay the price don't buy the product.
You can compare it to buying a BMW for 40K. Would you buy a Saturn at that price?
No!

Some people don't have the option of buying the Saturn at all, which is where your argument fails. Same thing for KK's post. While automobile dealerships have dotted the landscape enough to offer consistent choice, broadband providers have not.

Don't want to pay the price use 56K and netzero for 10 bucks a month.
That's where your argument fails.

You are missing the argument. It's not just what they charge, it's the tactics they are now using to force people, who have no other means of high speed internet, to pay pay a higher cost or purchase their cable to make their numbers look better. It's the dirty tactics, not just the fee.

A 56k in mine and many others jobs is not an option. It's like giving someone a bag of concrete and telling them to build a Dam, but you can't go buy more concrete anywhere to finish the job!! Why is it my other 2 previous cable providers treated their customers good and kept the rates steady for 3 years. But Comcast has raised the price twice and keeps asking us to buy cable or pay even higher prices for the past year. They are intentionally doing this because they know we can't go back to 56k. It's just piss poor how they treat their customers. They lied to me for 2 months and still wanted my money for shotty service, but I have no other option. See the problem yet?

You even have a Senator sending out letters now to the FCC, so hopefully they'll look into it and realize the unfair business practices they are using. I doubt anything will happen cause the FCC gets kick backs from cable companies.

If you have to have fast internet connection for your job, why are you using a residential service? You need to find a commercial way of getting access to the internet. Comcast I believe does not cater to commercial use.

KK

Comcast Pro. It cost more, but it's for small businesses. The other problem is you don't get the speeds they claim, but thats a whole different story. Comcast all around is full of sh!t. There's been many discussions about it on Broadbandreports.com. Unfortunately there is no alternative solution for small businesses in my area. BellSouth wont provide DSL over our lines so we're stuck with Comcast. I mean I like the service while it's working and I dont have to talk to Comcast, but the way they bully people around and their tactics are horrible.

So do you pay for the Pro? Also, why couldn't you get dish?

KK

 

[vi edit]

There's really nothing I can add that Amused hasn't said already. Broadband is a luxury, not an obligation. It's expensive to put in, expensive to operate, and expensive to maintain.

If you don't like utility (cable, dsl) based broadband prices, go with Satellite services.