Update: Triggered liberal assaults, robs white 16yr old boy with MAGA hat *NOW ARRESTED*

[realibrad]

Based on your posts I’d say you’re the retarded puppy. Not only can you not read but your entire schtick is being a “both sides do it” conservative apologist and falling back to your pedantic moron act when your any one of your awfully weak positions are even remotely challenged. Do yourself a favour read a book, learn how to debate and then with your new found critical thinking skills you may be able to post something of substance in these forums. Until then, fuck off with your concern trolling.

That sure reads like a canned response. Not sure where the concern trolling is, and I clearly said that the Right is not equal to the left. Strange post from you.

 

[realibrad]

Yes, and if you'd bothered to follow what the OP said (or bothered to understand why I said what I did about the OP) you'd get why I posited it in such a manner. Since it needs to perpetually be explained to you or else you'll go on pointless pedantic diatribes: he talked about it in that manner, and I was putting his ignorance in context that he apparently understands it in.

Like I said, he has no interest in actually knowing what he's pushing forth. He doesn't understand that study was not about "fight or flight" and likewise ignores that they specifically say they'd guess conservatives would be even more likely to do what they found in the study, and other studies show they're even more averse to "threats". They also talk about how its not really unexpected (quite the opposite really) that people will do such, so its hardly a condemnation of liberals as the OP is trying to claim. Its the usual ignore everything but what they think it says because they recognize some words method of argument. This is a very consistent problem with the conservatives I've encountered and why they consistently bastardized science. They don't understand the underlying science of the topic but they think they do and are qualified to speak on it. Nevermind how its often blatantly clear they didn't even read the actual study because, just like with the OP, it explicitly disputes what they claim it shows.

That is a big response that still makes me question if you understand what you read. Do you know what threat means in their context? There is a difference between the groups, but I don't think you understand what it is.

Maybe this will help, there are far more people from the Right is the Military.

 

[cytg111]

He's not losing anything. His sig says he's a Citizen of Europe. He promotes himself from time to time as being a U.S. citizen. Sometimes I think he believes he's a U.S. citizen. But pay attention to the way he spells certain words and you'll see that he's not an American. His derangement extends beyond Trump. In other words you're arguing with someone who's not mentally stable. If you find it fun, continue. To each his own.

I guess you got confused again and this one was actually aimed at me and not zin.
Wrapped in a flag that says "Citizen of Europe" he promotes himself as a US citizen.. that can only make sense in very very... adaptable mind.. like yours I guess .

You are so very wrong, we got everything on the line with Trump, just as you do. Russia is pushing, cracking hacking and meddling in elections all over Europe. We too are loosing youth to the retarded propaganda that Russia peddles(and its gotten so good too, its scary).
If America falls, we all fall. It is that simple, it is game-over west. I know you dont believe in the nasty USSR bogey man but some of us do.

In a dream now in shackles I did envision a tighter integration between Europe and America, maybe even "open borders". What we dont seem to realize is that if the planet is not going to unite under western ideals, it is going to unite under something else.. Either that or as Einstein put it : WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.

Oh and in regards to my written english, ill take that as a huge compliment. Thank you boomer hahaha.

 

[dank69]

That sure reads like a canned response. Not sure where the concern trolling is, and I clearly said that the Right is not equal to the left. Strange post from you.

And I said I'm not a racist but...

You missed where I clearly said I'm not a racist!

 

[realibrad]

And I said I'm not a racist but...

You missed where I clearly said I'm not a racist!

So, I said that the Right is worse than the left, and that really means they are equal? Brilliant!

 

[dank69]

So, I said that the Right is worse than the left, and that really means they are equal? Brilliant!

There are different ways to bothsides an issue and not all of them mean you think they are equal.

 

[realibrad]

There are different ways to bothsides an issue and not all of them mean you think they are equal.

Ah, okay so you are saying that the Left only has good people, and that nobody on the left has ever done anything bad, or advocated anything bad. The Right does 100% of the bad things as we all know. Brilliant!

 

[dank69]

Ah, okay so you are saying that the Left only has good people, and that nobody on the left has ever done anything bad, or advocated anything bad. The Right does 100% of the bad things as we all know. Brilliant!

Yes. You nailed it.

 

[Vic]

When well-known left wing media figures start telling lies about how "This is war!" and intentionally and knowingly incite violence from their followers, like a large number of right wing media figures do every day... then you might have a point.

He is saying that the well-known Right wing media are intentionally and knowingly inciting violence from their followers more than the Left does. Keep up.

Hey guy, like I said, you let me know when you can find some some examples of well-known left-wing public figures inciting their audiences to violence, like what we see from well-known right-wing public figures on an almost daily basis (including the President of the United States just last night).
It seems that you need to keep up. I'm not saying the right does it more than the left does, I'm saying you can't even provide an example of the left doing it like the right does.

 

[Jaskalas]

People this fucking stupid should be banned. I do not mean that in a Trumpian sort of way: i.e. cleansed or exterminated.

Any thinking person with an education knows that if you are an enabler of the oppressive regime such as is currently in power, you should understand that there will be resistance and hatred towards you by your victims; and once the oppressed come to power, you will be hunted and punished for your crimes.

Don't act so fucking surprised, cupcake. You created this mess.

"Your crimes". It is a crime to vote Republican now? With direct threat of hate and violence to follow. That's lovely.

And you want to blame them for your violence too, yes that does take the cake.

 

[qliveur]

Haha, ARRESTED.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Hey guy, like I said, you let me know when you can find some some examples of well-known left-wing public figures inciting their audiences to violence, like what we see from well-known right-wing public figures on an almost daily basis (including the President of the United States just last night).
It seems that you need to keep up. I'm not saying the right does it more than the left does, I'm saying you can't even provide an example of the left doing it like the right does.

Any ideology can be driven to violence depending on what dog whistles they hear.

Trump is more boisterous and overt in his language than any politician we’ve ever seen, but we’ve also had recent incidents of people shooting up a Congressional baseball games and assassinating first responders based on the dog whistles they were hearing.

 

[realibrad]

Hey guy, like I said, you let me know when you can find some some examples of well-known left-wing public figures inciting their audiences to violence, like what we see from well-known right-wing public figures on an almost daily basis (including the President of the United States just last night).
It seems that you need to keep up. I'm not saying the right does it more than the left does, I'm saying you can't even provide an example of the left doing it like the right does.

How about this quote from Maxine Waters?

“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere,”

Sure seems like that is a problem. Its not explicit as go physically hurt someone, but even on the Right that type of explicit command is highly uncommon.

Here is an explicit one from back in 2011 though.

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."
Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa

Again, the Right has a massively bigger problem with inciting and committing acts of violence compared to the Left. The idea that there are not really shitty people on the Left is absurd. Shitty people calling for violence should be called out. That means that far more on the Right will get called out, but damn sure there will be people called out on the Left as well.

 

[Vic]

How about this quote from Maxine Waters?

“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere,”

Sure seems like that is a problem. Its not explicit as go physically hurt someone, but even on the Right that type of explicit command is highly uncommon.

Here is an explicit one from back in 2011 though.

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."
Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa

Again, the Right has a massively bigger problem with inciting and committing acts of violence compared to the Left. The idea that there are not really shitty people on the Left is absurd. Shitty people calling for violence should be called out. That means that far more on the Right will get called out, but damn sure there will be people called out on the Left as well.

I never once said that there aren't really shitty people on the left. Of course there are. Cute straw man though.

 

[Jhhnn]

How about this quote from Maxine Waters?

“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere,”

Sure seems like that is a problem. Its not explicit as go physically hurt someone, but even on the Right that type of explicit command is highly uncommon.

Here is an explicit one from back in 2011 though.

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."
Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa

Again, the Right has a massively bigger problem with inciting and committing acts of violence compared to the Left. The idea that there are not really shitty people on the Left is absurd. Shitty people calling for violence should be called out. That means that far more on the Right will get called out, but damn sure there will be people called out on the Left as well.

You know that "take him out & shoot him" is just a figure of speech, right? It's not intended to be taken literally.

It's telling that you had to dig back to 2011 to come up with that particular remark.

 

[Jhhnn]

I never once said that there aren't really shitty people on the left. Of course there are. Cute straw man though.

He's edging towards bothsiderism, as always.

 

[brycejones]

OP's thread title is wrong.

Should be:

Beta cuck MAGA fan sits there and takes it from an Alpha Liberal.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

...Trump is more racist and white nationalist in his language than any politician we’ve ever seen...

Fixed to reflect like actual sh1t Trump says.

 

[realibrad]

I never once said that there aren't really shitty people on the left. Of course there are. Cute straw man though.

Then what were you saying in response to me saying that there are shitty people on both and more on the right? Your response was to talk to you when the Left is equal, when I said to call out bad people for bad things. So what was your point if to not disagree with me?

 

[realibrad]

You know that "take him out & shoot him" is just a figure of speech, right? It's not intended to be taken literally.

It's telling that you had to dig back to 2011 to come up with that particular remark.

There is my puppy.

 

[Vic]

Then what were you saying in response to me saying that there are shitty people on both and more on the right? Your response was to talk to you when the Left is equal, when I said to call out bad people for bad things. So what was your point if to not disagree with me?

So about Trump's speech last night, do the Democrats want anarchy or do they want big government? Because, yaknow, I'm a little unclear how they could want those 2 completely opposite things at the same time.
But either way, Trump is going to make America safe for freedom by letting the right use the government to kill the 'violent left' and anyone else the right disagrees with, right?

 

[realibrad]

So about Trump's speech last night, do the Democrats want anarchy or do they want big government? Because, yaknow, I'm a little unclear how they could those 2 completely opposite things at the same time.
But either way, Trump is going to make America safe for freedom by letting the right use the government to kill the 'violent left' and anyone else the right disagrees with, right?

I will answer this, but, you came nowhere close to answering what I just asked you.

The Left and Right seem to have an eternal struggle that has worked for a while. The Right builds and grows power hierarchies. These hierarchies are needed for a reasonably functioning society because that is where morals and values reside. The problem with power hierarchies is that they can go too far and or become corrupt.

Thus, the Left's role is to examine those hierarchies and make sure they do not go too far or become corrupt. So, the Left tries to tear down and the Right tries to control. For one extreme not to take over, you need the pull of the other. The problem I see right now is that the Left is also trying to build its own power hierarchy which historically has not worked well.

Democrats right now want to tear down any power structure that is associated with the Right, while building their own. A great example of this is post WWI Spain. Read some of what Orwell talked about and how facism had creeped into the side that was supposed to be fighting facism.

So, the Dems want to fight facism and promote morality. The problem is that who are facists and what is morality is highly subjective. Thus, you get people like Dank that are okay with a 16yo kid getting assaulted because reasons.

 

[Vic]

I will answer this, but, you came nowhere close to answering what I just asked you.

The Left and Right seem to have an eternal struggle that has worked for a while. The Right builds and grows power hierarchies. These hierarchies are needed for a reasonably functioning society because that is where morals and values reside. The problem with power hierarchies is that they can go too far and or become corrupt.

Thus, the Left's role is to examine those hierarchies and make sure they do not go too far or become corrupt. So, the Left tries to tear down and the Right tries to control. For one extreme not to take over, you need the pull of the other. The problem I see right now is that the Left is also trying to build its own power hierarchy which historically has not worked well.

Democrats right now want to tear down any power structure that is associated with the Right, while building their own. A great example of this is post WWI Spain. Read some of what Orwell talked about and how facism had creeped into the side that was supposed to be fighting facism.

So, the Dems want to fight facism and promote morality. The problem is that who are facists and what is morality is highly subjective. Thus, you get people like Dank that are okay with a 16yo kid getting assaulted because reasons.

I won't disagree with this except to ask, what power hierarchies are the left trying to create while they are almost completely out of power?
Because yes, there is an eternal struggle here. But that balance has now tipped completely to the right wing, to the point where they can and do commit violence with impunity, while they obsess with great fear over petty isolated instances from the left like this one, and pretend to themselves that their continuous use of violence and oppression is necessary for self defense.

 

[Moonbeam]

I will answer this, but, you came nowhere close to answering what I just asked you.

The Left and Right seem to have an eternal struggle that has worked for a while. The Right builds and grows power hierarchies. These hierarchies are needed for a reasonably functioning society because that is where morals and values reside. The problem with power hierarchies is that they can go too far and or become corrupt.

Thus, the Left's role is to examine those hierarchies and make sure they do not go too far or become corrupt. So, the Left tries to tear down and the Right tries to control. For one extreme not to take over, you need the pull of the other. The problem I see right now is that the Left is also trying to build its own power hierarchy which historically has not worked well.

Democrats right now want to tear down any power structure that is associated with the Right, while building their own. A great example of this is post WWI Spain. Read some of what Orwell talked about and how facism had creeped into the side that was supposed to be fighting facism.

So, the Dems want to fight facism and promote morality. The problem is that who are facists and what is morality is highly subjective. Thus, you get people like Dank that are okay with a 16yo kid getting assaulted because reasons.

Number one, it's fascism but the real issue here as I see it is your seeming inability to emotionally identify normal sensibilities as to what are important and relevant issues. People on the left are vitally aware that we are sliding into fascism under Trump, that he has demigod sensibilities, that he has a lust to rule as an unopposed authoritarian and has made this lust manifestly clear. He is a danger to everything that is best about our nation. In this emotional climate and critical situation that it is vital to fix, you wander into the discussion because for you with your emotional disconnection to the real subject at hand, you find this to vital windmill at which to tilt, namely that democrats can become authoritarian too. Nobody who is watching Trump destroy our country right now wants that to be the topic of this thread. And what happens when you get told so, you go on and on about how the left can really be authoritarian, as if your life depended on it. When people tell you you can't read, they mean you can't pick up on relevant emotional context. Maybe you may have Asperger's Syndrome or something like that. At any rate, you bitterly defend bones that have no marrow. You don't keep up and it looks motivated, like you do it intentionally so as to remain opaque to content that might disturb you emotionally.

 

[realibrad]

I won't disagree with this except to ask, what power hierarchies are the left trying to create while they are almost completely out of power?
Because yes, there is an eternal struggle here. But that balance has now tipped completely to the right wing, to the point where they can and do commit violence with impunity, while they obsess with great fear over petty isolated instances from the left like this one, and pretend to themselves that their continuous use of violence and oppression is necessary for self defense.

Oh by far the higher educational system is a power structure of the Left. I think its something like 10:1 in terms of professors that are Left vs Right.

If you want to get really gray, social media is another.

As for the Right committing acts of violence with impunity, that is absurd. What world is that even close to being true?

The Right as I said is concerned with power structures, and thus they are fearful of change that might damage that structure. Its well understood on both sides that minorities vote way Left wants to do away with the structures on the Right. So, letting in more is more of a danger to those power structures. Keeping out people that would attack that is then a good idea for them.

Keep in mind, those on the Right see their power structures as still very good. So when the Left calls for reducing or tearing them down, its the equivalent of the Left wanting to tear down the morals and ideals that make us safe and successful. Many on the Left try and portray those on the Right as being evil, immoral, or any other pejorative when they see themselves as protectors.

This then brings me to the great irony of each side. The Left sees themselves as fighting fascism and so any means necessary is justified. The Right sees themselves as fighting for what is moral and good for the country, and so any means necessary is justified. The remainder of people in the middle, which is a much larger group are now having to choose a side because the middle is shrinking. If this keeps going, we are fucked.