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emperus

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Yea but to be fair that's life in the NFL, you always attack an opponents weakest point. I am a life-long Pat's fan, but as much as I wanted a win predicting "dominance" against a defense as good as Seattle's is utter garbage, I expected a close, hard-fought game and that's exactly how it turned out. TBO I wanted them to let BM score on the 1st play and give Brady some time to try and work it down into FG range. Coaches sometimes out think themselves in big moments, I remember BB going for a 4th and 14 rather than try a 48 yrd FG facing the Giants, a "WTF" moment there, Brady was spending most of the night on the ground and you think trying to convert 4/14 is a good plan?. Turns out the Pat's tose by 3 IIRC.

The Pats offense did dominate the Seattle Defense. They scored 28 points which should have been more if Brady didn't throw a stupid pic in the red zone. Especially given the officials let them play the game, a benefit to Seattles hold every play strategy. In fact at the end of halftime if you didn't know the score you would think that the Pats were up 14-0.
 

SunnyD

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Ya know how Lynch doesn't talk to reporters?

Marshawn Lynch asked if he's surprised he didn't get the football. Says "No." I ask him, Why not? Says, "Because football is a team sport."

Lynch is about the only guy who isn't openly upset that he didn't get the ball on that play.
 

emperus

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I wouldn't quite say that, the Pat's had no answer for Bennet all game long, he forced Brady into some quick throws and probably the 2 picks.

That's an overstatement. Brady was 37/50 with 4 TD's without a strong run game. I don't get some of this analysis I hear. Is that what you call no answer? Plus like that play when Stork held him. Bennet seemed to lining up in the neutral zone. The officials generally let it go all night something I saw them call a lot in the NFC championship game.
 

Capt Caveman

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Ya know how Lynch doesn't talk to reporters?



Lynch is about the only guy who isn't openly upset that he didn't get the ball on that play.

Except he's given the finger to his OC in the past for not getting the ball at the goal line.
 

purbeast0

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The Pats were better for most of the first half but after that I would say the Seahawks looked like the better team (until the 4th quarter). Brady was getting smacked around early and he looked a bit shaken and threw the ball earlier than he wanted a few times (and one that should've been intentional grounding). I can be serious that I think this D is one of the best of all time (top-7 probably). Like I said, this is a different NFL where the rules are tailored for scoring and offense but they still lead the league for three consecutive years in scoring defense (their defense last year was probably even better).

so you're saying the seahawks were the better team for 1 quarter?

:confused:
 

digiram

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That was an epic game. Let's make it best out of 3.. c'mon. I can't wait 8 months for more football, lol.
 

wabbitslayer

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Not really being a fan of either team....but so much butthurt in this thread.

IF the ball was caught, everyone would be praising the genius of Pete Carroll talking about how the Pats were expecting the run and weren't ready for a pass play.

Game could have very easily gone the other way. In fact, right after that miracle catch that got them inside the 10, folks at my house were talking about whether or not the Pats should let 'Hawks score immediately to let Brady have 30 seconds to get the ball back down the field for a FG to send it to overtime.
 

purbeast0

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Not really being a fan of either team....but so much butthurt in this thread.

IF the ball was caught, everyone would be praising the genius of Pete Carroll talking about how the Pats were expecting the run and weren't ready for a pass play.

Game could have very easily gone the other way. In fact, right after that miracle catch that got them inside the 10, folks at my house were talking about whether or not the Pats should let 'Hawks score immediately to let Brady have 30 seconds to get the ball back down the field for a FG to send it to overtime.

playing the "if" game in football is as dumb as it gets.

there are about a million plays in a given game that you could play the if game on that would change the outcome drastically.

"if" brady didnt throw that pick in the endzone...

"if" the seahawks receiver didn't make that miraculous catch with seconds left in the game.

etc...

just dumb to play the if game in football.
 

Capt Caveman

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Brady was throwing at a 2nd stringer all night because of injury replacement.
The Pats were one dumb call away from losing, and you crying into your shitty corona.
contract conspiracy with that call? Are you high? Do you actually watch football?

where was the outright dominance that you predicted?

Except when he was throwing to Gronk who was covered by Chancellor or Amendola covered by Thomas or Edelman covered by Maxwell.

The NE Offense wore down the Seattle Defense and after only giving up 13 points in the 4th Qtr in the last 8 games(I think that's the number). Brady shredded the Seattle in the 4th Qtr against everyone except Sherman.

Also heard that at the one yard line, Lynch was only 1 for 5 for the season. I don't know if that was a reason for the stupid call.

But Emperus is a major homer.
 

purbeast0

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Except when he was throwing to Gronk who was covered by Chancellor or Amendola covered by Thomas or Edelman covered by Maxwell.

The NE Offense wore down the Seattle Defense and after only giving up 13 points in the 4th Qtr in the last 8 games(I think that's the number). Brady shredded the Seattle in the 4th Qtr against everyone except Sherman.

Also heard that at the one yard line, Lynch was only 1 for 5 for the season. I don't know if that was a reason for the stupid call.

But Emperus is a major homer.

12 points, i remember that graphic. and it was all fieldgoals, 4 in 4 separate games.
 

emperus

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Except when he was throwing to Gronk who was covered by Chancellor or Amendola covered by Thomas or Edelman covered by Maxwell.

The NE Offense wore down the Seattle Defense and after only giving up 13 points in the 4th Qtr in the last 8 games(I think that's the number). Brady shredded the Seattle in the 4th Qtr against everyone except Sherman.

Also heard that at the one yard line, Lynch was only 1 for 5 for the season. I don't know if that was a reason for the stupid call.

But Emperus is a major homer.

And right about The Seattle Defense being overrated.
 

Capt Caveman

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emperus

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And can we talk about the Fucked up officiating in this game. I am even more sure Kraft did something to the rest of the League as the NFL did not want the Pats winning this game (leaks from deflate gate).
 

emperus

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about as dumb as it is to argue about who the better team was when the scoreboard tells you, but there's a ton of it going on LOL

I don't agree. I thought the PAckers were the better team but Seattle won. Things happen during the game. In this case, the better team won.
 

skyking

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Seahawks had their chances. When they went 3 and out after the pats 4th quarter TD, it was clear they were not the best offense that day. When they had to settle for 3 in the red zone?
Same thing.
 

Retro Rob

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The Pats offense did dominate the Seattle Defense. They scored 28 points which should have been more if Brady didn't throw a stupid pic in the red zone. Especially given the officials let them play the game, a benefit to Seattles hold every play strategy. In fact at the end of halftime if you didn't know the score you would think that the Pats were up 14-0.

And then Brady was 13 of 15 in the 4th quarter, and two TDs.

Yeah, Seattle's D got run last night. I wouldn't call them overrated, but I think they're simply overconfident, and couldn't stop the underneath stuff.

Sherman, again, had his weakness exposed because he cannot deal with small, shifty WRs. I saw a couple plays where he got shaken out of his shoes. I think Belichick and co saw how during a SeaHawks/Chargers game this year, Sherman was getting worked by that little dude (cannot remember his name).

He only had 55 yards against Sherman, but he was shaking him and getting open.
 

Capt Caveman

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12 points, i remember that graphic. and it was all fieldgoals, 4 in 4 separate games.

You're right, thanks.

I think the amazing thing about this NE Offense was it's ability to change game to game and during a game which is a huge credit to McDaniel and Bellichick.

Plus, I think NE had the WR Corp was a complete mismatch for Seattle. Two quick WRs in Amendola and Edelman. Splitting out Gronk to get one on one coverage by Chancellor or one of the Linebackers.

Then with the WRs clearing out areas for Vereen who caught 11 passes was a mismatch for the Seattle Linebackers and became the NE rushing game. He made a great one handed catch.

In the past two SBs, NE never changed their offensive approach during the game, never tried the quick throwing to negate the Giant pass rush.
 

Capt Caveman

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And can we talk about the Fucked up officiating in this game. I am even more sure Kraft did something to the rest of the League as the NFL did not want the Pats winning this game (leaks from deflate gate).

The refs ate their whistles as both teams were getting away with Offensive and Defensive PI. It was pretty even imho.
 

emperus

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That was an epic game. Let's make it best out of 3.. c'mon. I can't wait 8 months for more football, lol.

Best out of 3? Do you think Mathews would catch all of those LOB passes or their receiver would catch that 4th quarter pass at the end of the game or Revis would run into another referee. You see how the Pats shut that down once they benched Arrington (whose been benched before this year for the same thing). Whereas the Pats offense would continue to roll. Their Offense seemed deliberate and in control. Out of 3 games, this would probably be the closest game
 

emperus

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You're right, thanks.

I think the amazing thing about this NE Offense was it's ability to change game to game and during a game which is a huge credit to McDaniel and Bellichick.

Plus, I think NE had the WR Corp was a complete mismatch for Seattle. Two quick WRs in Amendola and Edelman. Splitting out Gronk to get one on one coverage by Chancellor or one of the Linebackers.

Then with the WRs clearing out areas for Vereen who caught 11 passes was a mismatch for the Seattle Linebackers and became the NE rushing game. He made a great one handed catch.

In the past two SBs, NE never changed their offensive approach during the game, never tried the quick throwing to negate the Giant pass rush.

Agreed. Belichick and McDaniels learned from their stubbornness during those Superbowls. It was a great game plan predicated on Brady being smart with the ball. Don't think a lot of other QB's could have done that. It's amazing that the Seahawks mostly plays 10 defenders with 10 yards of the ball and the 11th about 15 yards from the ball.

Also, Seattle should have been prepared for that. San Diego did the same thing.
 
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