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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If some paltry include()s are bogging down your webserver, you could just have a script that creates a static page, which updates via cron or whatever.

How would that possibly be better than having dreamweaver do it when the files are updated?

Perhaps it's not, I guess the idea of relying on some big expensive gui program for maintiaining a website just seems strange to me.
 
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If some paltry include()s are bogging down your webserver, you could just have a script that creates a static page, which updates via cron or whatever.

How would that possibly be better than having dreamweaver do it when the files are updated?

Perhaps it's not, I guess the idea of relying on some big expensive gui program for maintiaining a website just seems strange to me.

Well, if you want to consider my site:

There's at least 10 or 12 people who contribute information to the site. None of them know PHP. About half know HTML. Dreamweaver allows users to check out files off the site, so that two peoplea ren't editing the same file at the same time. WYSIWYG editors are easy to use, especially for those people that don't know HTML.
We have thousands of HTML files that predate the existance of the first PHP interpreter. When an email address changes at the bottom of most of those files, dreamweaver makes global search and replace simple.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If some paltry include()s are bogging down your webserver, you could just have a script that creates a static page, which updates via cron or whatever.

How would that possibly be better than having dreamweaver do it when the files are updated?

Perhaps it's not, I guess the idea of relying on some big expensive gui program for maintiaining a website just seems strange to me.

Well, if you want to consider my site:

There's at least 10 or 12 people who contribute information to the site. None of them know PHP. About half know HTML. Dreamweaver allows users to check out files off the site, so that two peoplea ren't editing the same file at the same time. WYSIWYG editors are easy to use, especially for those people that don't know HTML.
We have thousands of HTML files that predate the existance of the first PHP interpreter. When an email address changes at the bottom of most of those files, dreamweaver makes global search and replace simple.


Well with a little CMS, you could save 10 or 12 licenses of dreamweaver. And if they only have to add "information" and don't change anything in design, a little php-CMS would be the best IMO.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If some paltry include()s are bogging down your webserver, you could just have a script that creates a static page, which updates via cron or whatever.

How would that possibly be better than having dreamweaver do it when the files are updated?

Perhaps it's not, I guess the idea of relying on some big expensive gui program for maintiaining a website just seems strange to me.

Well, if you want to consider my site:

There's at least 10 or 12 people who contribute information to the site. None of them know PHP. About half know HTML. Dreamweaver allows users to check out files off the site, so that two peoplea ren't editing the same file at the same time. WYSIWYG editors are easy to use, especially for those people that don't know HTML.
We have thousands of HTML files that predate the existance of the first PHP interpreter. When an email address changes at the bottom of most of those files, dreamweaver makes global search and replace simple.

If they're just adding/changing content, it would be somewhat trivial to create a script or webpage which allows them to do that, and as far as search and replace, it makes no sense to me to have identical information in more than one page. Have a "footer" file or whatever, and include it, or use it as a template, or whatever 😕
 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If some paltry include()s are bogging down your webserver, you could just have a script that creates a static page, which updates via cron or whatever.

How would that possibly be better than having dreamweaver do it when the files are updated?

Perhaps it's not, I guess the idea of relying on some big expensive gui program for maintiaining a website just seems strange to me.

Well, if you want to consider my site:

There's at least 10 or 12 people who contribute information to the site. None of them know PHP. About half know HTML. Dreamweaver allows users to check out files off the site, so that two peoplea ren't editing the same file at the same time. WYSIWYG editors are easy to use, especially for those people that don't know HTML.
We have thousands of HTML files that predate the existance of the first PHP interpreter. When an email address changes at the bottom of most of those files, dreamweaver makes global search and replace simple.


Well with a little CMS, you could save 10 or 12 licenses of dreamweaver. And if they only have to add "information" and don't change anything in design, a little php-CMS would be the best IMO.

Did I mention the thousands of preexisting pages dating back to 1994?
 
Originally posted by: narzy
http://www.cleanyourdirt.com/beta/

I did all the work except the original logo design but I did have to recolor the logo. how much would you charge for the site. I did the layout, template small logo's ect.

http://www.cleanyourdirt.com/beta/

edit, funky sh!t characters added to title to add "tackieness" to the thread.

*** WARNING ***
The site's permissions are not configured correctly. Directory listing should NOT be allowed!

http://www.cleanyourdirt.com/cgi-bin/

is world-readable. More specifically, this file http://www.cleanyourdirt.com/cgi-bin/formmail.log is quite interesting 🙂
Same goes for the /images/ directory.

There doesn't seem to be anything especially private there, so I'm just posting this info here instead of PM'ing you.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If some paltry include()s are bogging down your webserver, you could just have a script that creates a static page, which updates via cron or whatever.

How would that possibly be better than having dreamweaver do it when the files are updated?

Perhaps it's not, I guess the idea of relying on some big expensive gui program for maintiaining a website just seems strange to me.

Well, if you want to consider my site:

There's at least 10 or 12 people who contribute information to the site. None of them know PHP. About half know HTML. Dreamweaver allows users to check out files off the site, so that two peoplea ren't editing the same file at the same time. WYSIWYG editors are easy to use, especially for those people that don't know HTML.
We have thousands of HTML files that predate the existance of the first PHP interpreter. When an email address changes at the bottom of most of those files, dreamweaver makes global search and replace simple.


Well with a little CMS, you could save 10 or 12 licenses of dreamweaver. And if they only have to add "information" and don't change anything in design, a little php-CMS would be the best IMO.

Did I mention the thousands of preexisting pages dating back to 1994?


ahhhhhm, nope 🙂 What kinda page is that, if I may ask? To me, a CMS is just "cleaner" 🙂
 
This is my site in question.

Most new pages since I've been hired uses dreamweaver templates, SSI includes, MySQL databases, and other handy tools to make the site easier to manage. Almost every page prior to my arrival last march does not use any of these things.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
This is my site in question.

Most new pages since I've been hired uses dreamweaver templates, SSI includes, MySQL databases, and other handy tools to make the site easier to manage. Almost every page prior to my arrival last march does not use any of these things.

Ah ok. But for a page like that, a CMS would be optimal. Of course, it would be a PITA to move the content into the database, etc. but you would also have a nice archive. Again, just MO 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: notfred
This is my site in question.

Most new pages since I've been hired uses dreamweaver templates, SSI includes, MySQL databases, and other handy tools to make the site easier to manage. Almost every page prior to my arrival last march does not use any of these things.

Ah ok. But for a page like that, a CMS would be optimal. Of course, it would be a PITA to move the content into the database, etc. but you would also have a nice archive. Again, just MO 🙂

I agree it would be great to have, but it didn't exist when this site was first started, and there's so much data there that no one wants to move it over now.
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
To be honest, that site doesnt look like anything special....

None of the sites mentioned here are. I can't believe you guys charge that much money for that level of work. I am obviously in the wrong field.
 
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