This is an easy fix but act fast:
Park car on a city street somewhere, then have your friend go to the tow company with cash in hand and get your car back. They'll, um, find the car has been stolen and apologize profusely. Car will be discovered on street and returned to you.
Makes the tow company feel bad at least although I'm sure you're breaking new laws under this scenario. (This assumes they have any emotions at all..)
You get an A+ in my book, the tow companies are such a ripoff. Unforunately you might have gotten into trouble for your ingenuity.
Park car on a city street somewhere, then have your friend go to the tow company with cash in hand and get your car back. They'll, um, find the car has been stolen and apologize profusely. Car will be discovered on street and returned to you.
Makes the tow company feel bad at least although I'm sure you're breaking new laws under this scenario. (This assumes they have any emotions at all..)
You get an A+ in my book, the tow companies are such a ripoff. Unforunately you might have gotten into trouble for your ingenuity.
There is no such thing as parked illegally for a diplomat or a Congressman while in session. If the car is double parked stradling the curb of a handicapped and a firezone, they would be wasting their time towing it and probably land themselves in hot water.
Wrong, same goes for members of Congress while in session, it is not uncommon to see them parking on sidewalks the grass etc. It doesn't matter, it is legal.
I believe the poster said the car was parked in Zoned parking (requires a neighborhood permit, AKA illegaly parked on a public street).
(As mentioned early in the thread) Cities usually contract a towing company to either respond to a police call, or to act on their own - no zone parking permit, tow the car - in which case, the towing company has the legal authority to remove the car, and get paid for doing so.
Usually in zoned parking, residents have their permits / stickers, and usually some "guest passes" they can hand out to their visitors.
The base assumption here is that it was a "legal" tow, and that the guy illegally parked, then illegally tresspassed, then illegally removed property from the legal possesor (theft of service, GTA, fraud -since he (may have) obtained access through misrepresentation - possibly B&E) State and local laws are all different. Prosecutors are all different. What gets charged, and what goes to court will vary by location.
The towing company ABSOLUTELY has the guys plate number, and ABSOLUTELY will know that he hasn't paid for the car. At some point, they will call the cops (the car is missing and they don't know where it went). The cops will ABSOLUTELY check with the owner of the car and see he has it ... and tell the towing company he has it. From there it's a slam-dunk. The guy doesn't have a receipt saying he's paid for it, the towing company doesn't have a record that it was paid for. There is no way the guy can prove he got the car through legal means. He's hosed. He's toast. It's gonna cost him MAJOR bucks at the very least.
If it goes long enough, the towing company can declare the car abandoned (since it's been "sitting in their yard" for months) and sell it. Once it's officially abandoned, the towing company owns the title, and they sell it off to cover their costs.
At that point, the guy is driving (by any definition) a stolen vehicle (he has no title to it, and no permission to drive it from the owner).
If the car is *illegally* towed, then call the cops, and complain to whatever city organization that regulates the towing. Then, if necessary, take 'em to court to recover costs and damages.
Certainly, there are a jillion ways this could go, there are so many variables. The only way the guy will get off cheap is if the towing company is so poor at their administration that they *never* find out the car is gone (not likely, given the insurance requirements, the law, and the nature of the business).
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Scott
(As mentioned early in the thread) Cities usually contract a towing company to either respond to a police call, or to act on their own - no zone parking permit, tow the car - in which case, the towing company has the legal authority to remove the car, and get paid for doing so.
Usually in zoned parking, residents have their permits / stickers, and usually some "guest passes" they can hand out to their visitors.
The base assumption here is that it was a "legal" tow, and that the guy illegally parked, then illegally tresspassed, then illegally removed property from the legal possesor (theft of service, GTA, fraud -since he (may have) obtained access through misrepresentation - possibly B&E) State and local laws are all different. Prosecutors are all different. What gets charged, and what goes to court will vary by location.
The towing company ABSOLUTELY has the guys plate number, and ABSOLUTELY will know that he hasn't paid for the car. At some point, they will call the cops (the car is missing and they don't know where it went). The cops will ABSOLUTELY check with the owner of the car and see he has it ... and tell the towing company he has it. From there it's a slam-dunk. The guy doesn't have a receipt saying he's paid for it, the towing company doesn't have a record that it was paid for. There is no way the guy can prove he got the car through legal means. He's hosed. He's toast. It's gonna cost him MAJOR bucks at the very least.
If it goes long enough, the towing company can declare the car abandoned (since it's been "sitting in their yard" for months) and sell it. Once it's officially abandoned, the towing company owns the title, and they sell it off to cover their costs.
At that point, the guy is driving (by any definition) a stolen vehicle (he has no title to it, and no permission to drive it from the owner).
If the car is *illegally* towed, then call the cops, and complain to whatever city organization that regulates the towing. Then, if necessary, take 'em to court to recover costs and damages.
Certainly, there are a jillion ways this could go, there are so many variables. The only way the guy will get off cheap is if the towing company is so poor at their administration that they *never* find out the car is gone (not likely, given the insurance requirements, the law, and the nature of the business).
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Scott
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Listen to ScottyMac! Though Tow Companies have an awful reputation, if they have a Contract to tow, they are an extension of Law Enforcement. The Company I worked for was tight with the Cops and often had orders direct from the city police concerning certain tow jobs. We had a Direct Line to the Police Station, pick up phone and a cop would pickup within 1 ring. If a customer was irrate(happened regularly), cops would show up within 5 minutes.
Umm... tell your friend to go back w/ $200 cash and asking for his car... he'll get some amount of satisfaction by seeing the look on their face when they can't turn it up ^_^
Probably lots of legal issues with that tho and he would get caught for getting the car back.
Probably lots of legal issues with that tho and he would get caught for getting the car back.
Well your friend can make it look like his car was stolen. He goes there, pays $200, has the cops come and take his statement. Meanwhile, he has parked his car at the local mall.
CONVENIENTLY, 2 hours later, he goes there to buys the new Beach Boys CD, or whatever else is popular. He sees his car in the parking lot. He calls the police. There just happen to be keys in the car ignition. Looks like someone broke into your car at the lot, found spare keys above the visor and left with it. Have some random kid touch the keys or something, and have prints lifted (if they'll do this for you, I never get it done because the police laugh when I demand fingerprinting).
That way you're off the hook.
Yeah, and hope during the whole thing that nothing ever was picked up on a camera or noticed by security somewhere (at the holding yard, at the mall ... )
Then hope that anybody that knows about this never gets P.Od at you (like a girlfriend ... they hardly ever get ticked off - until you dump 'em or get caught cheating on 'em) and drops a dime (well, quarter(s)).
Get caught, and it's pretty much guaranteed jail time.
If you're gonna go that far, you might as well go for full-blown insurance fraud and shoot for a new car.
Get caught, and you're pretty much guaranteed prison time. Cops & insurance companies really dislike dealing with folks that waste their time & money.
Take the car back, fess up, and pay the money. That is the cheapest and easiest way out of this.
At this point, he might get away with less than $1000.00 worth of lesson.
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Scott
Then hope that anybody that knows about this never gets P.Od at you (like a girlfriend ... they hardly ever get ticked off - until you dump 'em or get caught cheating on 'em) and drops a dime (well, quarter(s)).
Get caught, and it's pretty much guaranteed jail time.
If you're gonna go that far, you might as well go for full-blown insurance fraud and shoot for a new car.
Get caught, and you're pretty much guaranteed prison time. Cops & insurance companies really dislike dealing with folks that waste their time & money.
Take the car back, fess up, and pay the money. That is the cheapest and easiest way out of this.
At this point, he might get away with less than $1000.00 worth of lesson.
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Scott
If you go the "car got stolen route", at least have a friend "find" it and not the owner 
BTW, what kind of car is it?
BTW, what kind of car is it?
Some of these are great ideas.
As if he isnt in enough hot water to start with, might as well add submitting a false police report about a stolen car.
As if he isnt in enough hot water to start with, might as well add submitting a false police report about a stolen car.
first of all if the guy has the car, that is proof right there. the burden would be on the towing company to say the guy illegally removed the car and owes them $$. secondly the towing company would never be able to say the car was abandoned on their premisis if in fact the car is not presently there. the only thing the company could do is take the person to civil court. the only way your friend can be screwed is if he gets a ticket for illegally parking. I cant ever see him having to pay the $200
Is it legal to affix flamethrowers to your car that will roast towing guys? Of course there would be a warning sticker.
Most tow companies are not responsible for lost/stolen stuff. Someone posted here a while ago about how his car was towed, when he got there, his car stereo was stolen with all his CDs and the tow company claimed ignorance. There's crooked tow truck ops out there.Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Yeah go leave the car in some random place, then goto the tow truck place to pick it up, and then sue them for loosing ur car
What happens if you drive a junker and don't want it back after it gets towed. Could you just not pay forever and let the tow company keep the car?
i don't think anything will come of it. i'm not sure what other laws would apply but if they had it at a public lot, then trespassing and breaking an entry don't apply. You friend was lucky they didn't have it in a fenced in area.
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