UPDATE: I pull the trigger on the LG 226WT

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: mudcake
How do you go from the service menu back to the normal menu

Turning the power off should work.

dedejean, I believe I answered your questions via PM. If you have any more questions, please ask in my calibration thread.

 

[mudcake]

Hi xtknight

Thanks for the help. I thought I had tried turning off but without success. Just switched back on now and all ok:thumbsup:

 

[b1gduk]

Nice one !


Same as mine and still no problems here either.

I have had many positive comments made about my screen.
Glad it worked out for you.

 

[dedejean]

Hi guys,

i just upgraded my system... (please see specs below in my signature)

anyways, i have a nightmare with the color my 226wtq is showing... Does ATI have a color test/calibration tool like that of nvidia's control panel where i can fine tune the color/gamma with practical tests (like sliding the bar under red green blue spectrum to get the right gamma etc.).?

 

[magnimus]

Hi all,
Is the topic died ?
I have WTQ with 1.10 FW and no way to change
Is someone still contact with LG support about FW upgrade ?

 

[BLC]

I just ordered the L226WTQ from Micro Direct in the UK (same place as b1gduk). When I first noticed this monitor, I'd pretty much set my sights on it straight away as it seemed like really good value for a 22" LCD with a 2ms response time (I paid £188 ($376) before shipping). I actually found and read the Hardforum thread before ordering it and was a little put off; however all the reviews I saw on UK hardware suppliers made no mention of any ghosting, so I decided to go for it anyway and take the risk. Having now read this forum, it would appear that any ghosting issues seem to have been resolved, at least for models sold on this side of the pond. However I will confess that I've been "out of the game" for a little while when it comes to PC hardware, so I really did not know anything technical about TFT's before reading up about this monitor (last time I built a PC was over 5 years ago, and CRT's were the norm!)

I'm expecting delivery on this monitor tomorrow, so once I've got it all set up, I'll post back on this thread again. I'm really not going to be able to test game performance, as my laptop graphics chipset is a pretty paltry Radeon Mobility 9600/9700, but I will still be able to run tests like the seemingly infallible "MS Paint red circle" and play with calibration settings, etc.

I'll let you all know how it goes anyway.

 

[Skott]

I bought one today (L226WTQBF) from Circuit City for $349 US. I havent hooked it up yet though. I been too busy so far. Anyway I read from different forums some people had ghosting problems and some didnt. I noticed it was the older posts that had the problem more than the newer posts so hopefully thats a good sign. I'll report back how it is once I've had time to hook it up and thoroughly test it.

 

[sobol]

Hi thre folks,
I've bought my LG 226WTQ-SF at www.overclockers.co.uk and it have no ghosting issue. Slight bleeding at top and almost non at bottom. Firmware is v.1.14.

I have problem with it, can't install the driver. Neither by manual point to driver location or right clicking on .inf and selecting install( i get message that this installation method isn't supported)I'm running on 64 bit vista.

 

[amking]

newegg has a L226WTY... whats the difference? http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824005097

i just recently bumped up to looking @ 22" lcd's from the 20.1's, and am stuck deciding between the 226bw and some version of the L226

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: amking
newegg has a L226WTY... whats the difference? http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824005097

i just recently bumped up to looking @ 22" lcd's from the 20.1's, and am stuck deciding between the 226bw and some version of the L226

The LG L226WTY has the specs (2ms) of the WTQ, so it must be identical. The different model number is almost certainly a trick to get around price-matching at big box stores (not the same model number... no price match!)

The WTQ/Y is correctly compared to Samsung 226BW, also with 2ms response time. However, the 226BW suffers the infamous panel lottery. You don't even know anymore what panel you are getting, because Samsung has blanked out the info in the service menu. One has a relatively low chance of getting a Samsung panel with the 226BW. You can also get an acceptable AU Optronics panel or a lower-class ChiMei or Chungwa.

On the other hand, the LG L226WTQ, and presumably the WTY, uses an LG-Philips panel.

If you have to buy right now, the LG would seem a safer bet. If you are willing to spend more, the Samsung 226CW is a wide color gamut model with guaranteed Samsung panel, but you have to spend $30 more (at Best Buy). I would do it, both for wide-gamut and Samsung panel.

If you want to wait a couple of months, LG is also soon coming out with a wide color gamut model, the L227WT series. This will be a direct competitor to the Samsung 226CW.

 

[imported_Husky55]

@BernardP,

Great post!!!

Thanks,

 

[amking]

Originally posted by: BernardP

Originally posted by: amking
newegg has a L226WTY... whats the difference? http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824005097

i just recently bumped up to looking @ 22" lcd's from the 20.1's, and am stuck deciding between the 226bw and some version of the L226

The LG L226WTY has the specs (2ms) of the WTQ, so it must be identical. The different model number is almost certainly a trick to get around price-matching at big box stores (not the same model number... no price match!)

The WTQ/Y is correctly compared to Samsung 226BW, also with 2ms response time. However, the 226BW suffers the infamous panel lottery. You don't even know anymore what panel you are getting, because Samsung has blanked out the info in the service menu. One has a relatively low chance of getting a Samsung panel with the 226BW. You can also get an acceptable AU Optronics panel or a lower-class ChiMei or Chungwa.

On the other hand, the LG L226WTQ, and presumably the WTY, uses an LG-Philips panel.

If you have to buy right now, the LG would seem a safer bet. If you are willing to spend more, the Samsung 226CW is a wide color gamut model with guaranteed Samsung panel, but you have to spend $30 more (at Best Buy). I would do it, both for wide-gamut and Samsung panel.

If you want to wait a couple of months, LG is also soon coming out with a wide color gamut model, the L227WT series. This will be a direct competitor to the Samsung 226CW.

i'm gonna have to check out these high gamut monitors...... so other than the high gamut, they will be exactly the same and have the low response time/no major ghosting?

i know the original conclusion of this thread in april was to avoid the wtq, and now you're telling me the new wty is the same thing think all the problems are really worked out by now?

i guess i'll have to see if i can view one of the high gamut models @ a bby or something.

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: amking
i'm gonna have to check out these high gamut monitors...... so other than the high gamut, they will be exactly the same and have the low response time/no major ghosting?

i know the original conclusion of this thread in april was to avoid the wtq, and now you're telling me the new wty is the same thing think all the problems are really worked out by now?

i guess i'll have to see if i can view one of the high gamut models @ a bby or something.

The Samsung 226CW is exactly like the 226BW, except for the wide gamut. It has the 2ms response time.
The full line of LG's L227 is not known. It is possible that, like for the L226 line, there will be a 5ms and a 2ms model (the latter with overdrive)
The overdrive problems have been fixed in the latest revision of the L226WTQ. I think there are some comments about this in the OP of xtknight's LCD Thread

Regarding wide gamut in general, it seems obvious that the market will be moving fast in this direction. But benefits are not obvious for now, as most usual sources are standard gamut. The main advantage of getting a Samsung 226CW now is that it comes with a Samsung panel, as Samsung is currently the only one with a wide-gamut 22-inch panel in mass production. But AU Optronics and LG-Philips are about to release their own wide-gamut 22-inch panels.

 

[magnimus]

Guys, is there (il)legal method to update firmware ? This ghosting issue is really annoying thing

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: magnimus
Guys, is there (il)legal method to update firmware ? This ghosting issue is really annoying thing

Supposedly, if you install the latest version of Forte Manager from LG's web site, it will update firmware when you run it. I only say that because I saw it reported, but I have my doubts...

 

[magnimus]

Originally posted by: BernardP

Originally posted by: magnimus
Guys, is there (il)legal method to update firmware ? This ghosting issue is really annoying thing

Supposedly, if you install the latest version of Forte Manager from LG's web site, it will update firmware when you run it. I only say that because I saw it reported, but I have my doubts...

Actually I have the last available ForteManager. Nothing about FW update there. Maybe there is some engineer's version of FM, but I have no access to it
Resume: current public ForteManager doesn't support firmware update feature.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I already spoke with LG about the Forte Manager and drivers issue 2 months ago when I purchased the LG226.

So others don't have to search back in the thread, here is the summary of my findings:

I initially purchased the LG226WTQ and experienced the ghosting issue many are reporting...however, WIN XP did accept the LG226WTQ drivers and I was able to run Forte Manager without a problem.

Because of the ghosting issue, I returned my LG226WTQ and managed to find the LG226WT, an earlier revision of the same monitor. This one did not have ghosting issues, but WIN XP did not accept the device drivers and Forte Manager would cause my screen to go crazy with artifacts and checkerboarding, for lack of a technical term.

I called LG, and they informed me to not worry about the drivers, and just use the default WIN XP drivers...they also said to uninstall Forte Manager...as far as I know, they do not have a fix for this issue, and I simply use the nVidia control panel to calibrate my monitor.

Overall, I am reasonably pleased with the LG226WT...it did grow on me over time, and quite honestly, the minor issues I had with it at first are not even noticeable now in terms of color intensity and accuracy.

 

[Skott]

So far I like my L226WTQBF. Colors are good. Still testing it out. Very easy on the eyes when it comes to surfing the net. I'll give more details once I've had time to run it through some gaming sessions.

Edit: Oh, LG gives you a nice cleaning micro cloth too which is rather nice.

 

[gashlycrumb]

Hello all. Thanks so much for this thread -- it really helped to clear some things up.

But I'm still confused about specific model numbers! Please tell me the difference between:

LG226WA
LG226WTX-BN
LG226WTX-BF

At first I thought it was about frame colours, but they're all black!

The WA is the only LG226 model listed on the LG website. The WA is also listed on the LG Canada site, along with the WTX-BF. The WTX-BN is for sale from various online vendors.

Why must they make it so confusing?!?

Alternatively, I could just buy the LG225WTQ-SF, and it sounds like as long as it's newer than April there will be no ghosting issues! And no model number confusion!

Thanks all!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Gashly, I am not familiar with the new model nomenclature, but when I made my purchase, there was essentially three options:

226WT: The original release I believe
226WTQ: A subsequent release that also suffered from the ghosting issue documented throughout this thread. Two months ago, some posters from Europe mentioned purchasing WTQs that did not have the ghosting issue, and I believe some American posters are also reporting in that the WTQ no longer has the ghosting issue. However, I believe it is still a monitor lottery type deal for determining which WTQ you are getting. The one I purchased did indeed have ghosting.
226WTX: The commercial version of the WT for sale to businesses...I could never confirm if the WTX contained the same parts as the WT or WTQ, but I know newegg was the only vendor selling WTXs at the time of my purchase.

 

[Skott]

I'm not sure why all the letters neither. I was wondering if it had to do with software updates or something like that. It might also have to do with who makes the panels. The two most common models now are the WT and its derivatives and the WTQ and its derivatives. I'd ask Xknight and see if he knows why all the different lettering.

I have the WTQ(BF) that I bought from Circuit City and so far I'm loving it. No ghosting discovered yet but I've only played CoD2 on it so far. Tomorrow or day after I plan on going out and getting FEAR and trying it out. I also need to get my DAoC account installed on my WTQ(BF) system and see if it has any ghosting. Just been slow in doing so.

 

[Sp3kt3r]

Hi Guys,

I bought the LG 226WA version from Futureshop Canada... this is my second 226WA monitor because the first one I bought had a big backlight bleeding issue.. and ghosting effect...

I went at futureshop for a replacement.. the second one has less backlight bleeding... but the ghosting effect is still there.. it is really annoying because I bought a basic Acer 19" widesceen with 5ms for my second computer and it has a better refresh time than my 350$ LG.... I know LG use RTC but I'd like to be able to turn it off...

It's almost not possible to watch DivX movie on the LG because I have a lot of Halo Color.. the DivX has to be really well done (at leas 1000kbps video bitrate and a good resolution) I have the same problem in video games with a lot of action (a colored game) because the issue is only on light color... like red on Gray or white on Light Blue...

Even on this forum when you scroll down.. the text on the web page has a ghost effect.. (a duplication of the text in white when you scroll down)

It is not a human eye reaction... it is really a issue from the RTC in the LG 226WA and for some people in the WTQ version.
For me it is not acceptable.. I'll return the monitor and I'll never buy another LG 226 model.. so bad because it's the only recent monitor with the Component Input at a good price.

I made a little video to show the problem. Sorry for the quality but at least you can see the problem.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=-6808474001320607915

I hope LG will do something about that.
they should do a recall because it's wrong markething spec. (at least in my case)

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: Sp3kt3r
Hi Guys,

I bought the LG 226WA version from Futureshop Canada... this is my second 226WA monitor because the first one I bought had a big backlight bleeding issue.. and ghosting effect...

I went at futureshop for a replacement.. the second one has less backlight bleeding... but the ghosting effect is still there.. it is really annoying because I bought a basic Acer 19" widesceen with 5ms for my second computer and it has a better refresh time than my 350$ LG.... I know LG use RTC but I'd like to be able to turn it off...

It's almost not possible to watch DivX movie on the LG because I have a lot of Halo Color.. the DivX has to be really well done (at leas 1000kbps video bitrate and a good resolution) I have the same problem in video games with a lot of action (a colored ame) because the issue is only on light color... like red on Gray or white on Light Blue...

Even on this forum when you scroll down.. the text on the web page has a ghost effect.. (a duplication of the text in white when you scroll down)

It is not a human eye reaction... it is really a issue from the RTC in the LG 226WA and for some people in the WTQ version.
For me it is not acceptable.. I'll return the monitor and I'll never buy another LG 226 model.. so bad because it's the only recent monitor with the Component Input at a good price.

I made a little video to show the problem. Sorry for the quality but at least you can see the problem.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=-6808474001320607915

I hope LG will do something about that.
they should do a recall because it's wrong markething spec. (at least in my case)

Wow, that ghosting is pretty obvious. Sorry you got a bad panel. :frown:

 

[Sp3kt3r]

I know

My friend bought one too and he has the same problem.. so in total we've tested 3 LG 226WA !!

probably a bad batch or they're made like that ?!?.

I wrote an email to LG support and tomorrow I'll call them.

for sure I'll return in except if LG has a solution.
I can't believe that LG sells monitor like that with the advertising of 2ms.
They don't test their monitor..
they should ask people like us to do the test

 

[amking]

the newest wty's and wtq's were supposed to fix the ghosting issues (based on what i've read here and elsewhere from users).