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cops are too dickless to shoot him down...

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"Crane climber shuts down Peachtree
Man identified as murder suspect from Florida

By MIKE MORRIS , BILL MONTGOMERY, BILL TORPY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 05/26/05

The sister of a Florida murder suspect perched 350 feet above a Buckhead intersection pleaded for her brother to surrender this afternoon.

Tawana Roland, who said she is the younger sister of 41-year-old Carl Edward Roland, appeared at the condominium construction site after receiving a call from detectives.
Carl Roland

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A man identified as Carl Roland stands atop a crane high above Buckhead as police officers try to talk him into coming down.

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Atlanta police initially escorted her to the crane but soon asked her to return home and wait for them to call her.

Roland did not leave. Instead, she began trying to signal her brother atop the crane by reflecting sunlight off a large hand mirror she borrowed from Genesis Hair Art, a salon at the corner of Buckhead Avenue and Bolling Way.

"Sugarfoot, it's your baby sister, please come down," screamed Tawana Roland, visibly upset.

"Does anybody have a megaphone around here," she implored passersby.

The southwest Atlanta resident said she has not seen her brother in eight years.

"It took me eight years to talk to him because I did not know where he was," she said.

Atlanta police continue to play a waiting game the murder suspect, who ascended the crane more than 24 hours ago.

At a press conference today, Police Chief Richard Pennington said negotiators have made it clear that police will allow Roland to turn himself in.

"We have assured him of that," said Pennington of the Clearwater, Fla., resident suspected in the slaying of his former girlfriend, 36-year-old Jennifer Gonzalez. The woman's badly beaten body was discovered Tuesday afternoon in a retention pond near her home in Oldsmar, Fla.

Peachtree Road remained closed in both directions from Pharr Road north to West Paces Ferry.

"We're not in any rush, and he's not a threat to anybody other than to himself," said Atlanta police Sgt. John Quigley.

Pennington said Roland confronted a construction worker Wednesday afternoon at about 4:30 p.m., saying he had "already broken the law and hurt someone" and instructing the man to "get out of the way."

Roland then took the crane elevator to the 25-story-high platform adjacent to the rising skeleton of condominiums.

Police negotiators climbed the crane and tried throughout the cool, 50-degree night to talk Roland down.

"He's been wavering back and forth between taking a plunge and possibly coming down in a safe manner," Quigley said.

Police say Roland is armed with a knife but had not made any demands or threatened anyone.

Quigley said police are "hoping that he gets to a point where he gets hungry, thirsty or uncomfortable or something that makes him come down under his own power."

Other than a police jacket, Roland has not accepted offers of aid, including food and water, said Pennington.

"He's very tired and hungry and I'm sure he needs water as well," Pennington said. "When he falls asleep we sound sirens [to wake him], we don't want him to fall. .... He's probably walking [around on the platform] to stay awake, but the sun is working on him as well."

According to police records, Roland, listed as being 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighing 243 pounds, has no felonies on his record in Florida. He was arrested there in 2000 for disorderly conduct, in 2001 for battery, and in 2004 for driving under the influence.

Police have located Roland's silver Toyota 4Runner outside a nearby Barnes & Noble book store.

Pennington said police are trying to locate relatives, including at least one in the Atlanta area. He would not name the relatives or say where they lived.

The crane is being used in the Trammell Crow Residential's construction of the 19-story Ovation condominium, part of the Buckhead Plaza complex at the southwest corner of Peachtree and West Paces Ferry roads.

Trammell Crow construction supervisor Joe Ackerman said the crane the man is on is about 25 stories high.

"I have to think he'll come down. It seems illogical for him to sit out there all night in the cold without sleep and then jump," Ackerman said. "But that's if you're thinking logically, and we have no way of knowing how logical he is."

James Lake, who works in the area, said he wanted to send a message to Roland that said "you don't deserve any attention, you don't deserve all this trouble."

"It's just ridiculous, said Lake. "I don't believe he deserves to live. This is a person who has brought a city to its knees for a long time."

Asked by reporters if he was being too harsh, Lake replied, "I'm working on the assumption that he did murder his ex-girlfriend and I believe in an eye for an eye. He just doesn't deserve this notoriety."

As businesses along the closed portion of Peachtree Road continued to lose customers, the scene in the area took on a carnival-like atmosphere.

Tolga Akdogu, the owner of Oxford Street, a men's clothing store, said he had not made any sales all day. He set up his wife's telescope and let passersby peer at the scene above -- free of charge.

Across the street at The Cheesecake Factory, waitress Karla Fairchild stood with co-workers looking up with binoculars at the suspect.

"Only in Atlanta," said Fairchild. "Why are you going to come from Florida, where you did something wrong, to come here?"

Fairchild said she had not waited on a table all day and had lost about $120 in tips.

Fairchild said police needed to call in Ashley Smith, who led authorities to courthouse shooting suspect Brian Nichols on March 12. Smith is credited with reasoning with Nichols, who surrendered after allegedly killing four people.

"They need Ashley Smith to talk him down," Fairchild said. "Where is she?"

John McDaniels, manager at Nava restaurant on Peachtree just north of the Cheesecake Factory, recalled the scene Wednesday evening.

"Everyone's necks are craned and sore. It was a bizarre strange happy hour here with people drinking cocktails and looking up."

McDaniels added, "We had a psychiatric convention in town. A few of them were here. I asked if they could go up and talk with him."

Baxter Carter, a plate glass installer from Douglasville, said he was unaware of the drama until he arrived at the construction site at 6:30 a.m.

"We're shut down for the day," said Carter. "He's costing a lot of people their day's pay."

Ackerman said there were about 300 workers involved in the construction of the condominiums.

"It ain't so good for us, but he's got to come down eventually," said Carter, who paused and added, "one way or another. I know I couldn't stay up there all night. You've got to sleep sometime."

The man stood up around 8 a.m. and walked around on the horizontal perch as Michael Anderson, a plumbing worker from Smyrna, watched.

"He's moving around too much, kind of bobbing and weaving. It looks to me like he's getting impatient. You don't know what's on his mind," said Anderson.

Within moments, the man sat down again.

"Look at him sitting with his legs dangling; he must be a climber or maybe somebody who is really comfortable with heights," said Pat Redmond, a librarian at the Fulton County Public Library branch on Buckhead Avenue.

Deborah Markham, director of a day care and pre-school for 3- to 5-year-olds in the area, greeted parents who came to drop off their children between 8:30 and 9 a.m.

She said the children had not been told anything Wednesday afternoon because the crisis had just started, and the youngsters didn't ask. But she was prepared to give them a simple, unfrightening explanation today.

"The kids are noticing the police cars and the TV trucks and I'm sure they'll ask," Markham said. She said she will ask her teachers to tell them that, "someone is stuck up in the tower and the police are helping him to get back down."

Robert Charles, an employee of the day care center, was frustrated with the traffic congestion and the media attention.

"I'm getting fed up with this kind of media circus," Charles said.

In June, 2001, a man fell to his death from a 200-foot-high crane at a construction site on Piedmont Road after a 20-hour standoff with police.

The luxury residential condo tower is being built by TCRGA Construction II, a limited partnership affiliated with Trammell Crow Residential, which is the master developer for the tower.

The crane was rented from United Forming, Inc. which also provided the crane operator, according to a spokeswoman for Trammell Crow Residential.

TCRGA said the company's main concern is for the event to end without injury or death. Any time lost off the construction job can be made up by working on weekends, the spokeswoman said.

Construction of the Ovation started late last year. The building is expected to be complete next year. The project cost was estimated at $46.5 million.

-- Staff writer David Pendered contributed to this article"

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SearchMaster

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Somebody held up a sign for him reading, "Don't jump yet. I gotta go to the bathroom."
 

Queasy

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You know, Atlanta already has enough crazies without importing them from Florida.

I feel bad for the business owners and the people who have to drive down Peachtree St. Peachtree St. is enough of a mess already without this loon making it worse.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: richardycc
"wow, free entertainment, let me get my lawn chair..."

I'd break out the slingshot and stink bombs too

'Forcing Roland's hand could lead to disastrous results, Robertson said. "If something happens, they're going to be the ones that forced that death," he said."


latest cnn article
So what, like we care?
 

Originally posted by: Nitemare
cops are too dickless to shoot him down...
He's not endangering the lives of a law enforcement officer or a bystanding citizen.

If the police employed a sharpshooter to 'shoot' him down from the crane, it would be nothing less than first degree murder.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
cops are too dickless to shoot him down...
He's not endangering the lives of a law enforcement officer or a bystanding citizen.

If the police employed a sharpshooter to 'shoot' him down from the crane, it would be nothing less than first degree murder.

He's a friggin public nuisance and he likely beat his gf to death
 

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
cops are too dickless to shoot him down...
He's not endangering the lives of a law enforcement officer or a bystanding citizen.

If the police employed a sharpshooter to 'shoot' him down from the crane, it would be nothing less than first degree murder.

He's a friggin public nuisance and he likely beat his gf to death
"Likely" means nothing. Remember the right to a fair and speedy trial? Innocent until proven guilty? Those aren't just little catch phrases. They are the foundations of our stable and consistent legal system.

And "nuisance?" Give me a break. Being a nuisance doesn't give ANYONE a right to shoot ANYONE.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
cops are too dickless to shoot him down...
He's not endangering the lives of a law enforcement officer or a bystanding citizen.

If the police employed a sharpshooter to 'shoot' him down from the crane, it would be nothing less than first degree murder.

He's a friggin public nuisance and he likely beat his gf to death
"Likely" means nothing. Remember the right to a fair and speedy trial? Innocent until proven guilty? Those aren't just little catch phrases. They are the foundations of our stable and consistent legal system.

And "nuisance?" Give me a break. Being a nuisance doesn't give ANYONE a right to shoot ANYONE.

Sorry, but he is blocking off traffic at a main thoroughfare in Atlanta. And how many innocent people climb up cranes and threaten to jump?

Hell, I'd shoot him if I knew I could get a pardon.
 

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Hell, I'd shoot him if I knew I could get a pardon.
You couldn't.

Why not?

I'm tired of these friggin attention-seeking morons inconveniencing others.
Because you'd be charged with: a) first degree murder, b) reckless discharge of a firearm in public, and probably a host of additional charges.

You can't shoot someone because they annoy you. That's not the way the world works. Well, maybe it's the way YOUR world works, but not OUR world.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Hell, I'd shoot him if I knew I could get a pardon.
You couldn't.

Why not?

I'm tired of these friggin attention-seeking morons inconveniencing others.
Because you'd be charged with: a) first degree murder, b) reckless discharge of a firearm in public, and probably a host of additional charges.

You can't shoot someone because they annoy you. That's not the way the world works. Well, maybe it's the way YOUR world works, but not OUR world.

I think I'd rather be in the Nitemare World than the jumpr World. :)
Jumpr, can't you get this guy to jump.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Hell, I'd shoot him if I knew I could get a pardon.
You couldn't.

Why not?

I'm tired of these friggin attention-seeking morons inconveniencing others.
Because you'd be charged with: a) first degree murder, b) reckless discharge of a firearm in public, and probably a host of additional charges.

You can't shoot someone because they annoy you. That's not the way the world works. Well, maybe it's the way YOUR world works, but not OUR world.

Guess you completely missed the pardon part....

Anyone else find it ironic that jumpr is not wanting him to jump :D
 

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Hell, I'd shoot him if I knew I could get a pardon.
You couldn't.

Why not?

I'm tired of these friggin attention-seeking morons inconveniencing others.
Because you'd be charged with: a) first degree murder, b) reckless discharge of a firearm in public, and probably a host of additional charges.

You can't shoot someone because they annoy you. That's not the way the world works. Well, maybe it's the way YOUR world works, but not OUR world.

Guess you completely missed the pardon part....
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PARDON FOR SHOOTING SOMEONE WHO INCONVENIENCES YOU.
 

erikistired

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i really wish he'd just fall off and die. or maybe the cops could handcuff him up there and he could stay there til he starved to death for the amusement of the crowds. he's hurting the businesses in the area and causing traffic problems in an area which doesn't need any help. worthless. just end him, he really needs it.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Hell, I'd shoot him if I knew I could get a pardon.
You couldn't.

Why not?

I'm tired of these friggin attention-seeking morons inconveniencing others.
Because you'd be charged with: a) first degree murder, b) reckless discharge of a firearm in public, and probably a host of additional charges.

You can't shoot someone because they annoy you. That's not the way the world works. Well, maybe it's the way YOUR world works, but not OUR world.

Guess you completely missed the pardon part....
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PARDON FOR SHOOTING SOMEONE WHO INCONVENIENCES YOU.

How bout inconveniencing a couple hundred thousand people?

I'm sure the people on the jury would have some sympathy as well

Vote of hands...any fellow Atlantans here mind if someone shot him down so they can get where they are going?
 

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jumpr
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PARDON FOR SHOOTING SOMEONE WHO INCONVENIENCES YOU.

How bout inconveniencing a couple hundred thousand people?

I'm sure the people on the jury would have some sympathy as well
YOU CAN'T SHOOT SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY CAUSED A TRAFFIC JAM. ENDING A HUMAN LIFE SO THAT YOU CAN GET HOME FASTER IS NOT A REASON FOR JURIES TO HAVE 'SYMPATHY.' JURIES DECIDE CASES BASED ON LAW, NOT TIME ON THE FREEWAY.