*UPDATE* Argument with the gf - Am I coldhearted?

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Cal166

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Note: Never date cambodians.

If I was in your place, i would try to reason with her, if she doesnt understand you. Let the relationship slowly die.

If you love her that much, then hang in there. Wait till you married her and move the fsck away from them.
 

79Blazer

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Originally posted by: dquan97
lilcam, I agree with you and would've done the same thing. There are limits to how much you can help someone, but the limits are more defined if the couple are able to help themselves. I see it as your gf is helping them be lazy.

My feelings EXACTLY. Smack them both. Hell I would even go so far as to call child protective services on thier asses. You know you can leave anonymous tips, right?
 

LuckyTaxi

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Originally posted by: fermium
Originally posted by: dquan97
lilcam, I agree with you and would've done the same thing. There are limits to how much you can help someone, but the limits are more defined if the couple are able to help themselves. I see it as your gf is helping them be lazy.

My feelings EXACTLY. Smack them both. Hell I would even go so far as to call child protective services on thier asses. You know you can leave anonymous tips, right?

hmmmmmmmmm ... really? i hate to say it but i might. im tired of ppl living off the system. poor kid is going to run around outside with diapers
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: oniq
Shouldn't he be arrested by now?

what for?

Hes 20, shes 16. Not legal, though I guess it depends on state laws...

it's legal to have sex with your wife in every state in the union

I would take a guess she got preggo then got married. Though she could be in a state where the legal age is 16.

which would mean he got a 15 y/o pregnant, if she was able to have a miscarriage and get pregnant again only to give birth at the age of 16

Tell your girlfriend you would have no problem helping out her sister, provided she dump the loser and promises to keep her legs together until she is able to provide for 2 mouths. Seriously, though I would try to get the husband arrested if not for statuatory rape, than at least drug possession. Her spending time away from him while he is anally sodomized is the best thing that can happen to her. If this does not work call in CPS, you know he smokes the herb around the baby.


 

79Blazer

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Originally posted by: lilcam
Originally posted by: fermium
Originally posted by: dquan97
lilcam, I agree with you and would've done the same thing. There are limits to how much you can help someone, but the limits are more defined if the couple are able to help themselves. I see it as your gf is helping them be lazy.

My feelings EXACTLY. Smack them both. Hell I would even go so far as to call child protective services on thier asses. You know you can leave anonymous tips, right?

hmmmmmmmmm ... really? i hate to say it but i might. im tired of ppl living off the system. poor kid is going to run around outside with diapers

You should. There would be a formal investigation into the WHOLE household. Including all that live there. They sometimes go so far as to look into peoples backgrounds. The guy would probably get looked into and see why he isn't working. Investigators can hold off ANY kind of government support untill the investigation is complete, or untill the persons being investigated do something to remedy the situation. eg: Get a job, clean the house, child-safe things.. you get the point.
 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: MystikMango
Can we know what flavor Asians we are talking about? It might help.

if the answer is cambodian will it all make sense?
That is not fair to say :frown:

However, the 16 or 15 at the time she was spreading her legs should get some sense knock into her. And, the 20 year old father should get at the least a job (should be a job & school). This is a disgrace & embarrassing, because they have so many opportunities here in North America compare to their poor/starving country men.

I worked with a 28 year old Cambodian woman at the Canadian National Research Council Center, that didn?t have any formal grade schooling training in Cambodia. However, she manages to learn English & got full ride scholarships from Canada & Briton for her BS, MS & PHD in Astrophysics. She completed her PHD at the age of 28 & didn?t start high school or learned English till the age of 19.
 

sxr7171

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Originally posted by: lilcam
oh ... i'm really starting to rethink this relationship. even my mom is mad and tells me i deserve better. why i still stay with her i dont know. Asian traditions are all fvcked up if you ask me. I'm sorry if I offend the other asian ppl on this board. I'm not saying all asian, but I've seen enough especially dealing with this personally and seeing my cousins going through the same sh!t before. They got married a little over a year ago after they thought she was pregnant. I think she had a miscarriage or something. So, then I heard these two were trying to get pregnant but couldnt because he kept smoking that herb or whatever he was on. Now she actually got pregnant and they'll be messed up cuz I know damn well the girl's mother will be taking care of that kid. The 16 y/o doesnt know any better. The guy stated awhile back that his kid would be getting a free ride from welfare. Thats cool and all if you really need it, but to abuse it and not work because you get "free" money aint coo. and what's messed up is her mom keeps saying we make lots of money and we should contribute some to her monthly. this woman is in her mid 30s and needs to freakign work!!! my mom is in her 40s and she's working like every other folks! why should she be any different. I can't imagine what it would be like if we were rich.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. When you marry someone, you marry their family. I really hate to say this, because it sounds like you had a good relationship with this girl, but you've had your fun and now it is time to move on. When we are young we oftentimes don't know what to look for in a person that we might get serious with. One thing that I have come to firmly believe in is that if you want to know how the girl will be in the many years you will be together you just have to look at the parents.

I'm sorry, but you really sound like you deserve a lot better - your mom is right.


As for the situation you are discussing, I can't even believe this. She is 16 and he is 20? They conceived twice recently? That would place her around 14 and him around 17 when they first conceived, and then they tried again? Also, you are not coldhearted in any way, get out and let them deal with this.
 

bdunosk

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I guess I'll join everyone else and say you're not cold-hearted. I hate free-loaders. There are people who generally need help and deserve it, and there are those who never contribute anything to the family (or society) and seem to exist to bleed everyone's good nature dry. Take a look at American society, I don't know what is going to happen considering the population of people not interested in working is having kids at a much higher rate than those who work. I don't feel like I should bust my a** daily to pay for someone who has no intention to contribute to the common human good.

Loser-boy could easily get on the bus if he can't drive. *shrug* It's one thing to help out when someone truly needs it and another to foster their behavior so that they never see any need to do for themselves.
 

LuckyTaxi

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so who can i call ... where should i start looking for a number.
i know the bastard is going to smoke near the baby. he is so damn stupid.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: lilcam
so who can i call ... where should i start looking for a number.
i know the bastard is going to smoke near the baby. he is so damn stupid.

Child Protective Services

read up
 

LuckyTaxi

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As for the situation you are discussing, I can't even believe this. She is 16 and he is 20? They conceived twice recently? That would place her around 14 and him around 17 when they first conceived, and then they tried again? Also, you are not coldhearted in any way, get out and let them deal with this.

Nah they conceived twice in a little over a year. I think she married at 15 and now she just turned 16 in October.
Yes ... she was married this passed summer in August.

 

Nitemare

Lifer
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Child Abuse Prevention Effort
Philadelphia, PA 19102
Phone: (215)831-8877

Child Abuse Intervention
Philadelphia, PA 19102
Phone: (215)590-1504



 

TranceNation

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I don't see how asian comes into play here. Generally speaking, asian people are proud people and would never ask for help. I think you are just dealing with a bad family.
 

bolido2000

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Originally posted by: TranceNation
I don't see how asian comes into play here. Generally speaking, asian people are proud people and would never ask for help. I think you are just dealing with a bad family.

In a lot of asian families once you marry their daughter you marry the whole family and you began to be everyones helper. Stick to your guns and tell them to fvck off.

I will just break up with the girl. Even if you move faar away your gf will bug you cuz she won't just dump her family
 

Dead3ye

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Wait a freakin minute here!

I haven't read every single post in this thread but, if your GF is 21, and her mother is in her mid 30's (35). That would have made her mother about 14 - 16 years old when she herself became a mother.

No wonder this woman expects everything to be handed to her daughter. She probably had everything handed to her when she was in the exact same position.

You, my friend, need to excuse yourself from this relationship and look elsewhere. Your doing nothing but staring trouble in it's mouth.
 

SSibalNom

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SCREW EM, IM SO SICK OF HELPING PPL WITHOUT CARS, how could u have a BABY AND NOT DRIVE? this isnt 1900
 

BCYL

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Originally posted by: Dead3ye
Wait a freakin minute here!

I haven't read every single post in this thread but, if your GF is 21, and her mother is in her mid 30's (35). That would have made her mother about 14 - 16 years old when she herself became a mother.

No wonder this woman expects everything to be handed to her daughter. She probably had everything handed to her when she was in the exact same position.

You, my friend, need to excuse yourself from this relationship and look elsewhere. Your doing nothing but staring trouble in it's mouth.

Exactly what I was thinking when I was reading through all the posts... Your gf's mom MUST have been a teenager when she had your gf, which means she was in almost the same situation as her daughter now... This would explain why your gf's mom would expect you all to help ur gf's sister out...
 

gunblade

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So, the 'loser' you refer to is illiterate and so cannot get driver licenses and a good job!?

Why did your gf's sister start to date him in the first place? Probably if you know much earlier, you should have tell your gf to stop them in the first meet. Of course , unless it is a family-arrange type of thing

I think it will be very tough to afford a family in their age now with no driver licenses and less than high school level of read-write capability.

It will definitely put pressure on you and your gf's shoulder. Think about all of this before your marriage.
Wish you luck.
 

I just love paying to support deadbeat minor's children.
rolleye.gif
 

AkumaX

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Originally posted by: lilcam
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: lilcam
he cant read the computer exam
Wait, so a 16 year old got married to, and pregnant by, an illiterate 20 year old who can't drive and doesn't know how to save money?

Jesus.

you sir are correct ... now that he's working he's making some money but he's spending it on weed and whatever else he smokes

Originally posted by: SampSon
I just love paying to support deadbeat minor's children.
rolleye.gif

And this is why we live in America. And why they live in America. So they can have their screwed up lives, while we pay for it. GOOO USA!!!
 

nan0bug

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Providing help is one thing. Supporting people in any way, shape, or form who have made it clear that they intend to raise the baby on welfare because it's a 'free ride' is another. Not only are they leeching off your paycheck in the form of taxes, they're leeching off you in the form of rides, formula, who knows what else.

The best thing you and anyone else can do for them is not provide anything more than the barest essentials (3 sets of clothes for the baby, some diapers and formula to get started, etc etc) and thats it. Let them figure out how to get the rest.

I was in their position basically, my girlfriend had just turned 18 and I was 20 when our daughter was born. I was still living with my parents and I screwed around and didn't save up money. I got minimal help, and I managed. I probbably would have continued being a drain on my parents had they not cut me off. He's 20 years old -- he's capable of pulling 12 hour shifts for a couple weeks to get what he needs, and he needs to be told as much. I did it, so can he.