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TheNinja

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Jan 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: msparish
Originally posted by: TheNinja
I have a FOOLPROOF plan and it has worked for me. But you need a table with a LARGE limit and you need a VERY LARGE bankroll. You just bet $1, everytime you lose, you double your previous bet. You will NOT lose this way. But you gotta have big balls to be betting $512 and even more when you have to double that to $1024 if you get on a bad roll.

But it is nontheless a guarentee.

Don't know if the sarcasm meter is broken...but that's why tables have max bets. You'll still lose in the long run.

well I'm just saying if there are no max bets you would NOT lose. There is no possible way you would lose....EVER!
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Take out $500 and use the $100 left to play with and see if you can make any more
When your down to $50, leave it in there for another day.

Unfortunately if you ever want to make any money at blackjack you have to have a pretty decent bankroll. If you can't absorb bad shoes you'll just lose money. 500 works well.
 

Ketteringo

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Feb 2, 2002
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Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: konichiwa
^^^^^

Yes that's true but most casinos (especially online ones) have little rule changes that turn the odds against you even when playing strictly by the book. There is no casino in which BlackJack is in your favor. They simply wouldn't create a game in which the odds are against them...

Actually Single deck Blackjack can have have odds "slightly" in your favor if you play by the book... (and find the right table)
Single Deck Blackjack
Dealer Hits Soft 17,
surrender allowed
Odds in Player Favor: 0.11 %
Link

but as a general rule you are correct. Blackjack just has the best odds of you playing all night without loosing your ass. :)

Too bad you are never going to find a casino ANYWHERE that plays single deck with surrender AND still pays 3 to 2 on blackjack. Most single deck games at a casino are going to be paying 6 to 5 on blackjacks, and that gives the house another ~1% edge.
 

msparish

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Aug 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: TheNinja
Originally posted by: msparish
Originally posted by: TheNinja
I have a FOOLPROOF plan and it has worked for me. But you need a table with a LARGE limit and you need a VERY LARGE bankroll. You just bet $1, everytime you lose, you double your previous bet. You will NOT lose this way. But you gotta have big balls to be betting $512 and even more when you have to double that to $1024 if you get on a bad roll.

But it is nontheless a guarentee.

Don't know if the sarcasm meter is broken...but that's why tables have max bets. You'll still lose in the long run.

well I'm just saying if there are no max bets you would NOT lose. There is no possible way you would lose....EVER!

True, but that's exactly why tables have max bets.
 

Ketteringo

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Feb 2, 2002
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Originally posted by: TheNinja
I have a FOOLPROOF plan and it has worked for me. But you need a table with a LARGE limit and you need a VERY LARGE bankroll. You just bet $1, everytime you lose, you double your previous bet. You will NOT lose this way. But you gotta have big balls to be betting $512 and even more when you have to double that to $1024 if you get on a bad roll.

But it is nontheless a guarentee.

That's called the Martingale system. It has a low probability of very high losses, and a low likelyhood of high wins, since every time you win a hand you're only making the bet that you started with.

Assuming you start with a $5 bet, and the table limit is $10,000, you'd have to lose 11 hands in a row to be busted out, assuming you have $10,000 to start with. There is a .04% chance of this happening. Assuming you follow basic strategy for splits and doubles, you could be busted out in as little as 5 hands under this system. There's a 3% chance of that happening.

Playing blackjack is all about Expected Value (EV). It's basically risk vs. reward. Wagering upwards of $10,000 to win your starting $5 bet generates a very negative EV, even with a .04% chance of it happening.
 

aircooled

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ketteringo
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: konichiwa
^^^^^

Yes that's true but most casinos (especially online ones) have little rule changes that turn the odds against you even when playing strictly by the book. There is no casino in which BlackJack is in your favor. They simply wouldn't create a game in which the odds are against them...

Actually Single deck Blackjack can have have odds "slightly" in your favor if you play by the book... (and find the right table)
Single Deck Blackjack
Dealer Hits Soft 17,
surrender allowed
Odds in Player Favor: 0.11 %
Link

but as a general rule you are correct. Blackjack just has the best odds of you playing all night without loosing your ass. :)

Too bad you are never going to find a casino ANYWHERE that plays single deck with surrender AND still pays 3 to 2 on blackjack. Most single deck games at a casino are going to be paying 6 to 5 on blackjacks, and that gives the house another ~1% edge.

There's a few.. just gotta study-up before your trip. (plus my partly retired mother works part-time for the MGM owned casinos, I just talk to her before going :) ).
You are correct though, the house is always going to have an advantage as a whole, but Blackjack is usually going to give you the best odds of leaving with what you came with.
 
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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
$50 investment. $75 given as bonus. Outed my original $50 now im at 600 profit :)

So easy

Is this single deck or multiple deck? What site do you play at?
 

Ketteringo

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Feb 2, 2002
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Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: Ketteringo
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: konichiwa
^^^^^

Yes that's true but most casinos (especially online ones) have little rule changes that turn the odds against you even when playing strictly by the book. There is no casino in which BlackJack is in your favor. They simply wouldn't create a game in which the odds are against them...

Actually Single deck Blackjack can have have odds "slightly" in your favor if you play by the book... (and find the right table)
Single Deck Blackjack
Dealer Hits Soft 17,
surrender allowed
Odds in Player Favor: 0.11 %
Link

but as a general rule you are correct. Blackjack just has the best odds of you playing all night without loosing your ass. :)

Too bad you are never going to find a casino ANYWHERE that plays single deck with surrender AND still pays 3 to 2 on blackjack. Most single deck games at a casino are going to be paying 6 to 5 on blackjacks, and that gives the house another ~1% edge.

There's a few.. just gotta study-up before your trip. (plus my partly retired mother works part-time for the MGM owned casinos, I just talk to her before going :) ).
You are correct though, the house is always going to have an advantage as a whole, but Blackjack is usually going to give you the best odds of leaving with what you came with.

I had *alot* of fun playing blackjack switch (have to play 2 hands, can switch the last two cards dealt) at the Casino Royale when I was there this summer. Free drinks and $1 margaritas plus some sweetly fun blackjack :)
 

aircooled

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ketteringo
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: Ketteringo
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: konichiwa
^^^^^

Yes that's true but most casinos (especially online ones) have little rule changes that turn the odds against you even when playing strictly by the book. There is no casino in which BlackJack is in your favor. They simply wouldn't create a game in which the odds are against them...

Actually Single deck Blackjack can have have odds "slightly" in your favor if you play by the book... (and find the right table)
Single Deck Blackjack
Dealer Hits Soft 17,
surrender allowed
Odds in Player Favor: 0.11 %
Link

but as a general rule you are correct. Blackjack just has the best odds of you playing all night without loosing your ass. :)

Too bad you are never going to find a casino ANYWHERE that plays single deck with surrender AND still pays 3 to 2 on blackjack. Most single deck games at a casino are going to be paying 6 to 5 on blackjacks, and that gives the house another ~1% edge.

There's a few.. just gotta study-up before your trip. (plus my partly retired mother works part-time for the MGM owned casinos, I just talk to her before going :) ).
You are correct though, the house is always going to have an advantage as a whole, but Blackjack is usually going to give you the best odds of leaving with what you came with.

I had *alot* of fun playing blackjack switch (have to play 2 hands, can switch the last two cards dealt) at the Casino Royale when I was there this summer. Free drinks and $1 margaritas plus some sweetly fun blackjack :)

Sweet! You always gotta include the free drinks in the equation :) .
Even though the tables I linked say different, I won the most at the Stratosphere single deck, open faced $5 table, and at the Excalibur single deck 5$ table. Most of the time just asking the dealer or the "regulars" for advice.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I've played single deck, hands on blackjack a few times.

Threw me for a loop to say the least. Talking to others there you play it much differently than the 4-6 deck that I've spent so much time and money trying to master.

 

aircooled

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Plus, you have to get over the initial "intimidation" factor (it's okay to be a blackjack newbie). Once you get yourself to the table you'll typically find all the help and advise you need is already there.
 

Raincity

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: aircooled
Plus, you have to get over the initial "intimidation" factor (it's okay to be a blackjack newbie). Once you get yourself to the table you'll typically find all the help and advise you need is already there.

That?s why I play at private tables to avoid all the strategy players BJ professors that don?t add up to dried dog sh@t. And by the way BJ is not the best odds in the pit. Learning and applying basic count moves the odds in your favor by .475%.

 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Raincity
Originally posted by: aircooled
Plus, you have to get over the initial "intimidation" factor (it's okay to be a blackjack newbie). Once you get yourself to the table you'll typically find all the help and advise you need is already there.

That?s why I play at private tables to avoid all the strategy players BJ professors that don?t add up to dried dog sh@t. And by the way BJ is not the best odds in the pit. Learning and applying basic count moves the odds in your favor by .475%.

sounds pretty darn good to me.
:thumbsup:
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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bwahahahahaha.....

Hate to bump this thread and I'm not trying to be a "topper"

Just trying to show that you can indeed make a lot of money on blackjack.

Took home 1500 bucks of Argosy's money last afternoon.

I love this game.
 

oogabooga

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Jan 14, 2003
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went to vegas for the first time, Playing a $5 dollar -> $1000 dollar table two deck hand shuffled table, put in twenty bucks, played for about 4 hours, left with 130 :D

I wouldn't count on it to make a lot of money or anything, but it was a fun time. My buddy and i ended up overall +enough to pay for the cost of the trip, which was our ultimate goal.

At the Bellagio, i saw a guy at the tables playing 6 hands, at 500 each. I didn't think it was statistically possible(and by this i mean of course that it seems SOOOO unlikely), but on 6 hands, i didn't see him win for 4 rounds... ouch. i came by an hour later he was still there playing only two hands at the table, 300 dollars, and again, i saw him lose about 5 straight rounds on both hands.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: oogabooga
went to vegas for the first time, Playing a $5 dollar -> $1000 dollar table two deck hand shuffled table, put in twenty bucks, played for about 4 hours, left with 130 :D

I wouldn't count on it to make a lot of money or anything, but it was a fun time. My buddy and i ended up overall +enough to pay for the cost of the trip, which was our ultimate goal.

At the Bellagio, i saw a guy at the tables playing 6 hands, at 500 each. I didn't think it was statistically possible(and by this i mean of course that it seems SOOOO unlikely), but on 6 hands, i didn't see him win for 4 rounds... ouch. i came by an hour later he was still there playing only two hands at the table, 300 dollars, and again, i saw him lose about 5 straight rounds on both hands.

It happens. I saw my entire bankroll (600) wiped out in 60 miniutes. Sometimes you just get your butt kicked no matter what (constantly dealt 13, 15, 16...no doubles, no splits.)

You just gotta roll with the bad shoes and take advantage of the good ones. Me, I just follow straight strategy and go with my gut every now and then - especially when dealer is showing 5/6.

"you're doubling on a 8???"

"Yep, dealer is showing 6 and I'm here to make money. Plus there are only two face showing on a 6 hand table and the last hand was face low as well. So gut tells me dealer has a face down"

Man i wish i could count.
 

oogabooga

Diamond Member
Jan 14, 2003
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heh i wouldn't double on a 8, even against a 5/6.

The guy at the bellagio just seemed like he was throwing his money away. I mean to lost around 20000 dollars is insane. I hope he had won around 40k before...

I saw a women split 4's against a 7... of course she lost.. felt bad cause everyone at the table (dealer included) was like "i dont think you should" and of course, the infamous "i'm feeling lucky" comes out.