Unreal Engine 3.0 Update
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The "seamless world support" looks very promising....might we finally say goodbye to loading between levels? I certainly hope so.
RussianSensation
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Originally posted by: Azzy64
heh, i forsee a large number of people seeking upgrades prior to this game's release.. Lets hope it lives up to the hype - and is worth upgrading for *cough Hl2Doom3*
No single one game is worth upgrading for. For the price of "upgrade" on Anandtech forums, or should i say ppl blowing $500 on a videocard alone, you could get PS3 or Xbox 2 and rent $5 games. Now thats worth upgrading for gaming purposes. However, upgrading your pc for multiple games like far cry, hl2, doom3, chronicles of riddick, wow, etc is actually worth it. Also it makes sense to upgrade After the game has been released for 2 reasons:
1) testers, reviews and gamers would have benchmarks on how it performs so you can estimate to "what" cpu or videocard you want to upgrade to that gives you a good price performance ratio
2) if you upgrade anticipating the game to come out and another HL2 happens, you'll be sorry with your by then 1 year old card that you bought just for that 1 game.
Originally posted by: biostud
As long as you have 4Gb+ of memory
From what I understand, the engine streams needed resources in and out of RAM from your HDD while you play.
I suppose more info will be given in due time, however.
n7
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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: Azzy64
heh, i forsee a large number of people seeking upgrades prior to this game's release.. Lets hope it lives up to the hype - and is worth upgrading for *cough Hl2Doom3
No single one game is worth upgrading for. For the price of "upgrade" on Anandtech forums, or should i say ppl blowing $500 on a videocard alone, you could get PS3 or Xbox 2 and rent $5 games. Now thats worth upgrading for gaming purposes. However, upgrading your pc for multiple games like far cry, hl2, doom3, chronicles of riddick, wow, etc is actually worth it.
I am going to have to disagree.
If you love a game, then spending massive amounts of money can be worth it.
I, for one, absoultely love UT, & really don't care about HL2 or Doom 3 or any other game at the moment.
When the next UT game comes out for PC, i will be happy to buy a new CPU & video card or whatever is needed to play it, since i am going to get my money's worth out of it.
biostud
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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: biostud
As long as you have 4Gb+ of memory
From what I understand, the engine streams needed resources in and out of RAM from your HDD while you play.
I suppose more info will be given in due time, however.
sounds like small annoying lags
beatle
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Here's hoping for a very interactive environment. Part of the draw of HL2 over Doom3 to me was the environment and all the different ways you could interact with it. It's like comparing a museum to an arcade. Sure, the museum pictures are outstanding, but you can't do anything with them.
For me Doom 3 was the game of last year, much more so than Far Cry or HL2. I had a blast walking around in the dark wasting monsters.
Is there gonna be Unreal 3 (game)? Or is it just an engine?
I wouldn't bother upgrading until I read a review on the game.
Ditto
I wouldn't bother upgrading until I read a review on the game.
Ditto
Originally posted by: biostud
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: biostud
As long as you have 4Gb+ of memory
From what I understand, the engine streams needed resources in and out of RAM from your HDD while you play.
I suppose more info will be given in due time, however.
sounds like small annoying lags
I dunno. I think it will result in greater RAM usage, but I don't think that would be a problem.
Think of it like this:
The game loads all the resources needed withing a certain radius of the player....say, the visible area over flat ground of a few miles...bear in mind that due to SM3.0, geometry instancing, etc, this won't take up nearly as much memory as it would seem. Then, as the player moves through the world, resources he leaves behind are quietly removed from memory as he passes out of sight of them, and the resources the game believes he is "approaching" are loaded before he arrives. Since none of the resources being removed or added are being rendered when they're being moved around, rendering remains smooth and uninterrupted...
To an extent, this is already used with LOD culling and such. This just appears to be the same mechanism on a larger scale. ALthough, to be fair, Epic's implementation may be completely different from what I've described here, but the point is it's not a far fetched concept - the main challenge I think is having enough lead time from what is already loaded to be able to stream in what is needed in time for it to already be in video memory when the core calls for it.
But again, we'll know in early '06, if not sooner, exactly what it does and how it works
Yeah, this isn't a game yet, its just a game engine. Sure it'll almost certainly power the next Unreal and Unreal Tournament games, but as far as I can tell its not really a game yet.
I liked Doom 3 (still haven't played all the way through, and will have to start over as I lost my save file). Far Cry and HL2 both seem to be pretty fun, and I still need to play through both of them as well.
I don't see what would be so difficult about seamless environments, the Metroid games on the Gamecube have been able to do an admirable job of it (still can tell some loading now and again though). Sure this game will be pushing a lot more, but the Gamecube has what 64 megs of total memory? By the time this game comes out 2Gb will probably be starting to become the standard. Figure that an OS (Longhorn) might use up 500MB on its own, thats 1.5GB left for them to deal with.
I liked Doom 3 (still haven't played all the way through, and will have to start over as I lost my save file). Far Cry and HL2 both seem to be pretty fun, and I still need to play through both of them as well.
I don't see what would be so difficult about seamless environments, the Metroid games on the Gamecube have been able to do an admirable job of it (still can tell some loading now and again though). Sure this game will be pushing a lot more, but the Gamecube has what 64 megs of total memory? By the time this game comes out 2Gb will probably be starting to become the standard. Figure that an OS (Longhorn) might use up 500MB on its own, thats 1.5GB left for them to deal with.
Doom 3 = BORING!!!!
Far Cry and HL2 are much more fun. How much fun is it to run around in the dark, where everything looks the same (dark!) and shoot the same things over and over. It was fun when it (Doom 1) first came out but now it's just well.............BORING!!!!
Far Cry and HL2 are much more fun. How much fun is it to run around in the dark, where everything looks the same (dark!) and shoot the same things over and over. It was fun when it (Doom 1) first came out but now it's just well.............BORING!!!!
The engine has been licensed for games already, including an RPG from the KOTOR team (Bioware), and possibly an MMOG from another developer, Epic themselves have a publishing contract with Midway for 3 Unreal based games.
Bioware
Huxley, MMOG
Midway deal
It's a versatile engine, we're looking at all kinds of stuff.
Bioware
Huxley, MMOG
Midway deal
Epic - Midway agreement
It's a versatile engine, we're looking at all kinds of stuff.
I have a vested interest in seeing what BioWare does with this engine. BioWare and Epic are two of my fave developers.
apoppin
Lifer
Far Cry was really hard.
Gorgeous but hard with that 'checkpoint only' save crap. . . . and the cheesy cutscenes, the voice acting, the ridiculous story and huge gaps in the plot and logic that was almost as bad as Doom iii . . . . gameplay was much better and water reflections (and foilage) top notch.Doom iii ONLY had the gfx - especially shadowsa and lighting - going for it. Terrible for a modern game . . . John Carmack's Daikatana.
:roll:
A really GREAT game with superb gfx - perhaps only second to Doom iii's (and probably equal to FC's but not the water) - is Chronicles Of Riddick: Escape from Butcher's Bay. As good (or slightly better IMO) than HL2 (better gfx, definitely). :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: Azzy64
heh, i forsee a large number of people seeking upgrades prior to this game's release.. Lets hope it lives up to the hype - and is worth upgrading for *cough Hl2Doom3
No single one game is worth upgrading for. For the price of "upgrade" on Anandtech forums, or should i say ppl blowing $500 on a videocard alone, you could get PS3 or Xbox 2 and rent $5 games. Now thats worth upgrading for gaming purposes. However, upgrading your pc for multiple games like far cry, hl2, doom3, chronicles of riddick, wow, etc is actually worth it. Also it makes sense to upgrade After the game has been released for 2 reasons:
1) testers, reviews and gamers would have benchmarks on how it performs so you can estimate to "what" cpu or videocard you want to upgrade to that gives you a good price performance ratio
2) if you upgrade anticipating the game to come out and another HL2 happens, you'll be sorry with your by then 1 year old card that you bought just for that 1 game.
Can't agree. Current onsoles are a waste, imo . . . crappy gfx on tv, no anytime save and super-expensive games than almost never are 'on sale'. Your HW may be cheap (but you get what you pay for) and Software is expensive . . . . you eat up the price of that $400 videocard with 20 overpriced console games.
You don't need to upgrade AFTER a game is released. i knew from game demos that my aging r8500 could not display the DX9 eyecandy i craved so i spent $223 for a 9800xt last Spring. . . . it plays EVERY new game - i have played since the upgrade - FC/PK-BOoH/Riddick/Max Payne: FoMP/HL2/Doom iii/DuesEx:IW/Thief - DS at either 10x7 or 11x8 with everything Hi and On and Max and Usually 2xAA + 4x or 8xAF
See, i researched ahead . . . . i realized that Doom iii more or less required 256MB of vRAM for 'hi' and other games would probably too - in fact, Painkiller:BoOH says you need 256MB to have everything on. That's why i picked the 9800xt last Spring . . . . and it has turned out to be an excellent upgrade for the a lucky hot deal price.
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Just curious, did you finish it (and if so, were you satisfied with the End Boss)?
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