Unofficial Trump joint session speech thread

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MikeMike

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The speech itself had a ton of contradictory statements. Was a decent speech overall, great speech writer.

However, Trump had a few despicable moments that I won't forget.

1: "Education is the civil rights of our era"
- No you dense orange twat, Civil Rights is the civil rights of our era. There's still racism, sexism, bigotry, etc.
2: "Your son is smiling down right now because he just set some sort of record"
- Holy fuck are you a senseless piece of shit. You just told a woman, her son who died less than a month ago, that even though he's dead, he's now smiling down because Congress stood and clapped for him.
 

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Actually, Steven Beshear made the evening. He wasn't speaking from a teleprompter, or he didn't betray it. And he put that disgusting slug Trump in his place. My spirits were raised.

I should write to him and tell him I won't make white-trash jokes about Marsha Blackburn anymore.

Oh, man. The media is coddling Trump.

Let me put it another way. His speech was coherent. He addressed certain issues, even for being a lying dissembler. But he's never been sincere. He's all for show.

Consistent with the unrestrained, unprincipled and amoral mendacity of his supporters, his media allies, his surrogates, and the trash he's put in the cabinet.

So on the Truth scale, and the Sincerity scale, the "former" governor gets about an A, and Trump a C-. I have to say C- to be reasonably fair, and despite the total mythical bubble in which he lives with his base. Otherwise, F isn't low enough.

I'm afraid we have the Anti-Christ in the White House with the biscuit for four years. Could any decent citizen stomach eight?
 

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Not to bury the lead, but holy shit dems with the granpappy hail mary!!

Bwahahaha. Brutes McGutes. Just brutal.
 

HomerJS

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I bet first time in front of a crowd or reporters, first thing he does is brag about his "great speech"
 
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The speech itself had a ton of contradictory statements. Was a decent speech overall, great speech writer.

However, Trump had a few despicable moments that I won't forget.

1: "Education is the civil rights of our era"
- No you dense orange twat, Civil Rights is the civil rights of our era. There's still racism, sexism, bigotry, etc.
2: "Your son is smiling down right now because he just set some sort of record"
- Holy fuck are you a senseless piece of shit. You just told a woman, her son who died less than a month ago, that even though he's dead, he's now smiling down because Congress stood and clapped for him.

Trigger much?

#2.. If you didn't get that him making that comment was about lightening the mood after a few somber moments for her then you clearly are too politically polar to fucking matter anyway.

I can't stand Trump, but for fucks sake learn how to choose better things to be offended by.
 

MikeMike

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Trigger much?

#2.. If you didn't get that him making that comment was about lightening the mood after a few somber moments for her then you clearly are too politically polar to fucking matter anyway.

I can't stand Trump, but for fucks sake learn how to choose better things to be offended by.

Oh you of such little knowledge. Thinking I got triggered. Thinking i was offended by it.

I wasn't. It was the single worst "joke attempt" I've ever seen. I've buried MANY family members. You don't make jokes about them setting records now, you make jokes about the past and how it would apply to today.
He literally showed that ALL he knew about him was that he died under a "highly successful, or unsuccesful, raid, that was planned, or something like that, under obama, and executed under Trump." and that she was being used as a political pawn to try and help cover his tracks. If he wanted to make a single joke about "now" he needed research. Are there other family members he's playing a game with looking down on us? Is he out hunting geese? Is he shooty hoops? What is he doing other than "Smiling down at good old president trump who got him killed and then a standing ovation in congress"

Also, I don't care WHO says it, Obama, Bush, Trump, comparing education to Civil Rights is a horrific comparison.
 

desura

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Okay, I admit I watched half of it.

Meh. He can't seem to let go of a fight and take the high road. But people don't really seem to care either. Like, we live in an MMA world now.

I'm sure that vox.com has like five editorials about how awful this was and blah blah blah.
 

HomerJS

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Trigger much?

#2.. If you didn't get that him making that comment was about lightening the mood after a few somber moments for her then you clearly are too politically polar to fucking matter anyway.

I can't stand Trump, but for fucks sake learn how to choose better things to be offended by.
Denial much??

Have you watched this guy since the election. He's always worried about "ratings", biggest, best, etc. This was no different but this time he used a grieving widow to his own end? Have you actually listened this guy? That comment was normal Trump because it was off prompter"

BTW - This is what Trump said about the raid in an interview earlier this week...
"This was a mission that was started before I got here," Trump said. "This was something they wanted to do. They came to see me, they told me what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very respected — my generals are most respected we've had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan."
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-blames-obama-yemen-raid-navy-seal-2017-2

He blames Obama and the generals for its failure yet in tonight's speech he said it was successful and used widow as cover.

Honestly can you respect that at any level???????
 
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He blames Obama and the generals for its failure yet in tonight's speech he said it was successful and used widow as cover.

Honestly can you respect that at any level???????

Did he ever acknowledge the mission as a failure? Is every mission where Americans die a failure?

Don't regressives ever get tired of spin?
 

compuwiz1

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I thought he sounded the most presidential yet. I felt he has real compassion for all Americans, everyone, not just the "white" voting block. I, frankly, don't see why he is constantly called a racist. He clearly isn't. He gave a very inclusive, patriotic speech, for which I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with. His vision for people working, lowering the welfare and food stamp rolls, returning to work, a great portion of the 94m currently out of the labor force, etc. There is a faction of society that is determined to hate him and undermine him, no matter what he does. There is also a group who hates Republicans, due to party and ideology. The protests will continue, but the question for those protesting, is what do you want? There is no such thing as a perfect president. I believe we are living in two Americas, one who believes in earning what you have, and one who believes that it's ok to be entitled to what others have earned.

There are men and women in this country who buck up everyday and go make their own life, while accepting the consequences of their successes and failures. The others have not failed, because they never tried anything. In their minds, it should be the government and others, who should provide for them. Yes, they are kind, kitten petting souls, pimple farming, weak sucks. They're also not ever going to be the backbone of society, the working bees, the ones who built anything. Democrats love a victim, but most of the victims are a product of their own inactivity to change their circumstances. See, once someone declares they are a victim, they have given up any sort of accountability and have fallen prey to the system, a system that depends on their grievances for votes.

So, for the asshat Democrats, who sat down during the address.....you look ridiculous and you should prepare to lose another 10-12 seats in the mid-terms. People ARE paying attention.
 
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Lügenpost. Youbetcha!

I thought he sounded the most presidential yet. I felt he has real compassion for all Americans, everyone, not just the "white" voting block. I, frankly, don't see why he is constantly called a racist. He clearly isn't. He gave a very inclusive, patriotic speech, for which I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with. His vision for people working, lowering the welfare and food stamp rolls, returning to work, a great portion of the 94m currently out of the labor force, etc. There is a faction of society that is determined to hate him and undermine him, no matter what he does. There is also a group who hates Republicans, due to party and ideology. The protests will continue, but the question for those protesting, is what do you want? There is no such thing as a perfect president. I believe we are living in two Americas, one who believes in earning what you have, and one who believes that it's ok to be entitled to what others have earned.

There are men and women in this country who buck up everyday and go make their own life, while accepting the consequences of their successes and failures. The others have not failed, because they never tried anything. In their minds, it should be the government and others, who should provide for them. Yes, they are kind, kitten petting souls, pimple farming, weak sucks. They're also not ever going to be the backbone of society, the working bees, the ones who built anything. Democrats love a victim, but most of the victims are a product of their own inactivity to change their circumstances. See, once someone declares they are a victim, they have given up any sort of accountability and have fallen prey to the system, a system that depends on their grievances for votes.

So, for the asshat Democrats, who sat down during the address.....you look ridiculous and you should prepare to lose another 10-12 seats in the mid-terms. People ARE paying attention.
 
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Meh..Even when he tries to be inspirational he has somehow the wrong demeanor for it. Lots of words, pretty words, he's got all the words. . . but not one plan of action. He read a bunch of lines crafted to sound bipartisan. If someone with a shred of sincerity had said it, fine. If Trump says it, after appointing a bunch of people to cabinet positions who apparently were picked precisely because they are against everything he just pretended to be for, and who has himself repeatedly demonstrated that he doesn't mean a word of it (e.g., his crocodile tears about the money we've spent on military adventures, while in the same speech asking for "one of the largest increases in national defense spending in American history"), then why in the world would I stand and applaud? Can anyone be gullible enough to think he means it? It's not that people are going to disparage any genuinely good ideas merely because they don't like Trump. It's that people are well aware that using vague feel-good rhetoric to disguise a severe lack of actual genuinely good ideas is Trump's standard operating procedure. So why should we believe that Trump's vague feel-good rhetoric is a harbinger of any actual genuinely good ideas this time?

I'll wait for the specifics. Is he really going to cut the deficit? Is he really going to propose spending on needed infrastructure, or will it just be tax breaks for private companies to build toll roads and run them for their own profit? Details matter!

I thought it was an "acceptable" speech, obviously heavily edited by his staff. If any of that kumbaya shit survives his first tweet, I'll be amazed, however.
 

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Classy using a widow to prop himself up. Then throwing in a bit of ye olde religious mythology crap as well. The man is repugnant.
 

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Classy using a widow to prop himself up. Then throwing in a bit of ye olde religious mythology crap as well. The man is repugnant.
Did it not occur to you that there are people who have no idea what our service men and women sacrifice? He's putting light on that.
Did it not occur to you that illegal aliens have killed many Americans, even after being deported and returning? He's also putting light on that.

The only thing repugnant is people like you, who hate for the sake of hate...or satan. Come break bread with me...I have silver bullets and wooden stakes, or I'll just throw a sterling silver fork across the table and into your forehead. lol

Don't f*ck with me, milquetoast.
 

Grooveriding

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Did it not occur to you that there are people who have no idea what our service men and women sacrifice? He's putting light on that.
Did it not occur to you that illegal aliens have killed many Americans, even after being deported and returning? He's also putting light on that.

The only thing repugnant is people like you, who hate for the sake of hate...or satan. Come break bread with me...I have silver bullets and wooden stakes, or I'll just throw a sterling silver fork across the table and into your forehead. lol

Don't f*ck with me, milquetoast.

lol. Seek help, you need it.
 
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/03/trumps_speech_and_our_infantile_left.html

"Perhaps the deplorable behavior of the Democrats throughout the speech was shame. There are 94 million people out of work, 43 million living in poverty and 43 million on food stamps. This is Obama's legacy. He transformed American into something it was never meant to be. Iran is building its nukes. Cuba is still a communist nightmare. The Middle East is a seventh circle of hell. They should be embarrassed by these facts. Poverty has increased. Crime has increased. Maybe that is why they stare at their laps and do not clap. They all know Obamacare is collapsing but cannot cheer Trump's plan to repeal and replace it with something that is affordable and actually provides health care."

So I'll ask those that identify as Democrats here, was it shame? If not, what?
 
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/03/trumps_speech_and_our_infantile_left.html

"Perhaps the deplorable behavior of the Democrats throughout the speech was shame. There are 94 million people out of work, 43 million living in poverty and 43 million on food stamps. This is Obama's legacy. He transformed American into something it was never meant to be. Iran is building its nukes. Cuba is still a communist nightmare. The Middle East is a seventh circle of hell. They should be embarrassed by these facts. Poverty has increased. Crime has increased. Maybe that is why they stare at their laps and do not clap. They all know Obamacare is collapsing but cannot cheer Trump's plan to repeal and replace it with something that is affordable and actually provides health care."

So I'll ask those that identify as Democrats here, was it shame? If not, what?

You're a truly brilliant performance artist. I applaud you. Marvelous work.
 
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Grooveriding

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You can't trust Trump, he lies and distorts constantly. He, along with that bizarre right wing blog, suckered you.
https://apnews.com/e9f0466be4024d74...CT-CHECK:-Trump-takes-credit-he-hasn't-earned

Of those 94 million out of work, only a small fraction are actively looking for work. The bulk are retired, stay at home parents and students in school. Gamed by Trump.

Iran isn't building nukes, unless you have some real information to say so. Cuba is fine, are you worried about them coming to get you ? And the middle east is a mess because of the incompetence of Bush invading a country for no good reason and creating a huge mess. Something Trump could easily repeat I suppose given his warmongering tone.

I agree on the healthcare. Americans have been getting royally fucked over for decades. The rest of the developed world provides healthcare for all their citizens while the US continues to have one patchwork disaster of a system or another. Still, if there are 20 million people getting coverage from Obamacare, that is 20 million people who are about to become very unhappy when it's repealed, unless Trump figures out what the 'tremendous' replacement he said he had actually consists of.
 
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His vision for people working, lowering the welfare and food stamp rolls, returning to work, a great portion of the 94m currently out of the labor force, etc. There is a faction of society that is determined to hate him and undermine him, no matter what he does.

That one statement simply negates anything else out of your mouth or Trump's. Why?

If there were 94M people out of work who are actively seeking work, we'd have a higher unemployment percentage than we had during the Great Depression, which topped out at 25%, if I remember correctly.

94M unemployed would represent a tad over 29% of the U.S. population. This country's never had unemployment like that and have a robust economy.

On the other hand, if you remove those 65 years of age and older from his 94M number, which that number includes, you reduce that by almost half. (In 2014, there were 46.1M people 65 and older....don't really think we count them as unemployed, or shouldn't.)

Now, Trump's number also includes everyone from age 16 upwards. But unless I'm mistaken, most 16, 17, 18 year olds are still in high school and also couldn't be employed, at least what Trump's talking about--full time employment, not an after-school very part time job to earn pocket money.

And from 18-22, a good percentage are in college. Going to count them? They've usually, until Trump, been excluded from being counted as seeking full-time employment. The figures on population of the two aforementioned groups is roughly 43M, but that spans an age range of 15-24, so it may be skewed a little. (As of 2015, the 15-19 age range has 22M, while the 20-24 y.o. have 21M.)

Trump's unemployment figures just don't add up at all. In fact, any sensible, reasonable, rational person can obviously see the unemployment numbers in the U.S. isn't 29% or close to it...
 

Thebobo

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Time to fact check his speech.

"In his first address to a joint session of Congress, President Trump stuck closely to his prepared remarks, but ran afoul of the facts in some cases.
  • Trump said the U.S. has spent $6 trillion in the Middle East and “with this $6 trillion we could have rebuilt our country.” The amount spent so far is $1.7 trillion, according to the Defense Department.
  • He cherry-picked the findings of a recent report, saying it found immigration costs U.S. taxpayers “billions of dollars a year.” The report said immigration “has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth.”
  • Trump said “94 million Americans are out of the labor force,” a figure that includes the retired, college students and stay-at-home parents. The vast majority — 88.5 million — said they didn’t want a job.
  • Trump said he would “promote clean air and clean water,” a vague claim that came hours after he had signed an executive order to roll back a 2015 “Clean Water Rule.”
  • And the president repeated claims we’ve fact-checked before on border security, welfare, job creation since he was elected, health insurance and crime. For instance, he said the U.S. left “our own borders wide open, for anyone to cross.” But the border patrol budget and number of agents have both doubled since 2001.
The false and misleading claims in Trump’s Feb. 28 address to Congress touched on familiar topics to fact-checkers, including the Middle East, the labor force, immigration and more."

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