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ArmchairAthlete

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They can keep you busy so you're not bored enough to seek out others IRL I think.

I say yes, no, yes.
 
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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Problem is, that IS the point of these levelling-based MMOs. If it wasn't, they'd give you something else compelling to do.

There are non level based MMOs?

UO. I only beta tested SWG and that was a long time ago, but I think it was skill-based too.

But the thing with UO is that PvE and PvP was about 1/20th of the game as far as gameplay. Back in 1997, in UO, you could place a house anywhere on the world map where there was enough open, flat space. It's 2005 now and nobody has dared replicate that feat.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Problem is, that IS the point of these levelling-based MMOs. If it wasn't, they'd give you something else compelling to do.

There are non level based MMOs?

in UO, you could place a house anywhere on the world map where there was enough open, flat space.

Interesting............ That ever get abused a good deal? Heh.... i could just imagine what the WoW people would do with power like that
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Wow, talk about somebody missing the point you just did. Perhaps those of us doing the end-game raid stuff *gasp* find that enjoyable.

You are missing the point in thinking that your play style is how everybody should play the game.
If you can enjoy the game without doing the high end raiding stuff, more power to you , but don't you dare pass judgement and dismiss other people's playing styles.
 

Sentinel

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I think I have mentioned this before, and perhaps in this thread.

My buddy plays 8-10 hours a day (just quit his job) in his mom's basement. He met his girlfriend on WOW and now they play together and do missions on there for endless periods of time. He has become a ghost from sitting in the dark so much.
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Wow, talk about somebody missing the point you just did. Perhaps those of us doing the end-game raid stuff *gasp* find that enjoyable.

You are missing the point in thinking that your play style is how everybody should play the game.
If you can enjoy the game without doing the high end raiding stuff, more power to you , but don't you dare pass judgement and dismiss other people's playing styles.

:confused: Wow, calm down, are you so defensive because this thread's hitting too close to home? It seems to me you're the only one claiming one playstyle is better than another and/or that a particular playstyle is the only way to enjoy an MMOG.
 

oogabooga

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Originally posted by: Sentinel
I think I have mentioned this before, and perhaps in this thread.

My buddy plays 8-10 hours a day (just quit his job) in his mom's basement. He met his girlfriend on WOW and now they play together and do missions on there for endless periods of time. He has become a ghost from sitting in the dark so much.

is she hot?
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Wow, talk about somebody missing the point you just did. Perhaps those of us doing the end-game raid stuff *gasp* find that enjoyable.

You are missing the point in thinking that your play style is how everybody should play the game.
If you can enjoy the game without doing the high end raiding stuff, more power to you , but don't you dare pass judgement and dismiss other people's playing styles.

:confused: Wow, calm down, are you so defensive because this thread's hitting too close to home? It seems to me you're the only one claiming one playstyle is better than another and/or that a particular playstyle is the only way to enjoy an MMOG.

I do have a tendency to get overly excited when I see people who make very clueless statements. Furthermore I specifically mentioned that you should play the game as you see fit, and as such, other people should play as they see fit.

Therefore since you obviously missed that, you may want to try that entire "reading comprehension" thing next time.

Additionally I think that people can enjoy whatever pastimes they want as long as they do so reasonably. I hardly see how playing a computer game is differently than being an avid golfer (for example). Interestingly enough I have met some people online who were diagnosed with various syndromes that made socializing very difficult (e.g. agoraphobia) yet playing online games have helped them far more than staying in and not contacting anybody, virtual or not.
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Wow, talk about somebody missing the point you just did. Perhaps those of us doing the end-game raid stuff *gasp* find that enjoyable.

You are missing the point in thinking that your play style is how everybody should play the game.
If you can enjoy the game without doing the high end raiding stuff, more power to you , but don't you dare pass judgement and dismiss other people's playing styles.

:confused: Wow, calm down, are you so defensive because this thread's hitting too close to home? It seems to me you're the only one claiming one playstyle is better than another and/or that a particular playstyle is the only way to enjoy an MMOG.

I do have a tendency to get overly excited when I see people who make very clueless statements. Furthermore I specifically mentioned that you should play the game as you see fit, and as such, other people should play as they see fit.

Therefore since you obviously missed that, you may want to try that entire "reading comprehension" thing next time.

Additionally I think that people can enjoy whatever pastimes they want as long as they do so reasonably. I hardly see how playing a computer game is differently than being an avid golfer (for example). Interestingly enough I have met some people online who were diagnosed with various syndromes that made socializing very difficult (e.g. agoraphobia) yet playing online games have helped them far more than staying in and not contacting anybody, virtual or not.

We're pretty much in agreement, which is why it's so baffling that you're on the offensive. :confused:
 

Xyclone

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WoW took over my life for 6 months. I finally quit, and my social life opened up like crazy. Don't play MMO's! :)
 
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Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Sentinel
I think I have mentioned this before, and perhaps in this thread.

My buddy plays 8-10 hours a day (just quit his job) in his mom's basement. He met his girlfriend on WOW and now they play together and do missions on there for endless periods of time. He has become a ghost from sitting in the dark so much.

is she hot?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*breath*

AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: DougK62
I play WoW about 5 hours a week with my brother, have a great time, and in no way does it influence the rest of my life.

I've been playing since launch and have a level 37 Druid.

since launch and you only have a lvl37 druid? :confused:

I have been playing since launch as well, but I do have a level 56 mage to show for. :)
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
But I believe you can't "play" an MMORPG anything less than 20+ hours a week and get anything from them.....at least none of the MMORPGs out right now.
I play WoW significantly less than 20 hours per week, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. If I'm not "playing" it, then what exactly am I doing???
You're an MMORPG tourist. You'll see the sites, but you won't experience the city.
Silly semantics. By any definition of the verb "play", I (and those others with similar styles) are playing the game.
 
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
But I believe you can't "play" an MMORPG anything less than 20+ hours a week and get anything from them.....at least none of the MMORPGs out right now.
I play WoW significantly less than 20 hours per week, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. If I'm not "playing" it, then what exactly am I doing???
You're an MMORPG tourist. You'll see the sites, but you won't experience the city.
Silly semantics. By any definition of the verb "play", I (and those others with similar styles) are playing the game.

Let's say a basketball player in a 5v5 game is just lying down at mid-court. Sure he's technically "playing" the game, but he isn't really playing the game. But I guess he could always argue semantics.

The genius of Blizzard is that they've packaged a Co-op RPG as an MMORPG, so, yes, you are getting more out of WoW than you would out of UO by sheer fact that the game has so little to do outside of repeating tasks thousands of others have already done before you......(which is why I call it more of a Co-op).

The other 2,000 people on your server are utterly meaningless and may as well not even exist. In true MMORPGs like UO, you can't help but be affected by most every player on the server. You pass by their vendors when you run by their houses. Should someone suddenly start selling tons of high quality weapons and armor for cheap, they could cause depreciation throughout the server. The PK guild who ran the other PK guild out of Buc's Den forced them to move to a tower outside Shame where your friend has to pass them more frequently which results in a call to you for assistance in fighting them.

In a real MMORPG like that, the difference is tremendous and your couple hours a week would be better spent mastering clog dancing.

The shallowness of WoW is what gives you the sensation of actually playing an MMORPG. "Hey, did you do Uncle Willie's Nail Polish quest?" "Yup" "DUDE, NO WAY, ME TOO!!" Even in WoW, though, as shallow as it is, there is an under-current you'll never tap into because you don't play enough....and that under-current is where all the real drama and power of a Massively Multiplayer game is harnessed through guild politics and wars and crafting cartels and alliances and betrayals.
 

CrackaLackaZe

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The shallowness of WoW is what gives you the sensation of actually playing an MMORPG. "Hey, did you do Uncle Willie's Nail Polish quest?" "Yup" "DUDE, NO WAY, ME TOO!!" Even in WoW, though, as shallow as it is, there is an under-current you'll never tap into because you don't play enough....and that under-current is where all the real drama and power of a Massively Multiplayer game is harnessed through guild politics and wars and crafting cartels and alliances and betrayals.

wow drama vs life drama. What's your pick?
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: 733SHiFTY
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
MMORPGs require decision-making skills and social interaction, unlike America's great pasttime, the boob-tube. They're not a problem, people who lack discipline are. Their addictions range from TV to food to drugs to MMORPGs. It's not a fault of the aforementioned things, but of the aforementioned people.

Good post.
 

ultimatebob

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MMORPG's like WoW are addictive, but I've found that it's an addiction that is easily broken. For me, all it took was someone showing me to the /played console command, and getting a reality check about how much time I was wasting.

Once I ran that command, I found out that I played over 100 hours over the period of a month to get to level 40 and get my horse. Getting a mount like a horse is a BIG thing in WoW, since you have to walk around a LOT before you get one. But, come on.... 100 hours of time just to get a friggin horse in a video game?!? Hell... If I would have spent that time doing some computer consulting work for $50 an hour, I would have made enough money to buy a REAL horse!

Anyway, I still play the game now, but now I limit myself to less than 10 hours a week. Sure, it will take me a lot longer to get to level 60, but at least I can have a social life away from my computer :)