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DougK62

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Can you play MMORPGs and still have an active social life?
No. But I believe you can't "play" an MMORPG anything less than 20+ hours a week and get anything from them.....at least none of the MMORPGs out right now. Sure you ca be subscriber to one and launch it for a few hours a week, but you most definitely not playing it. The point of an MMORPG is to create relationships and get involved in the political drama and economics of the world....otherwise you are 100X better served playing a good CRPG instead.

That's ridiculous. I play WoW very sparingly and love it. Single player RPG's bore the life out of me. A lot of different kinds of people play MMORPG's a lot of different ways and have good times. The point of a MMORPG is to HAVE FUN.

The only thing different, for somebody playing only a few hours a week, between an MMORPG and a CRPG, is just that some of the characters around you are computer controlled. You will NOT have any engaging conversations with these people and their individuality will never be unlocked. I'm not sure how that makes the game non-boring for you. I'm guessing this is your first MMO and, as such, you're still under the spell of the initial shock and awe at the technical achievemet which you are beholding. I also suspect KOTOR is played only a few hours a week would geerate the same level of entertainment if not more once that wears off in another month or two.

Yeah - you're a moron. I've played many an MMORPG since beta testing UO, and I'm in a WoW guild where everyone plays very sparingly and we have great communication. Every time I'm playing I do things with my guild. Here is a reality check for you: different people play games differently.

 
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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Can you play MMORPGs and still have an active social life?
No. But I believe you can't "play" an MMORPG anything less than 20+ hours a week and get anything from them.....at least none of the MMORPGs out right now. Sure you ca be subscriber to one and launch it for a few hours a week, but you most definitely not playing it. The point of an MMORPG is to create relationships and get involved in the political drama and economics of the world....otherwise you are 100X better served playing a good CRPG instead.

That's ridiculous. I play WoW very sparingly and love it. Single player RPG's bore the life out of me. A lot of different kinds of people play MMORPG's a lot of different ways and have good times. The point of a MMORPG is to HAVE FUN.

The only thing different, for somebody playing only a few hours a week, between an MMORPG and a CRPG, is just that some of the characters around you are computer controlled. You will NOT have any engaging conversations with these people and their individuality will never be unlocked. I'm not sure how that makes the game non-boring for you. I'm guessing this is your first MMO and, as such, you're still under the spell of the initial shock and awe at the technical achievemet which you are beholding. I also suspect KOTOR is played only a few hours a week would geerate the same level of entertainment if not more once that wears off in another month or two.

Yeah - you're a moron. I've played many an MMORPG since beta testing UO, and I'm in a WoW guild where everyone plays very sparingly and we have great communication. Every time I'm playing I do things with my guild. Here is a reality check for you: different people play games differently.

So it's basically a COOP RPG to you. You still aren't playing an MMORPG.

Some people go to Disneyland just for dinner too.
 

MagicConch

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IMO MMORPGs are a lot like gambling in the sense that some can play casually and some get addicted. Of the addicts to these games I think a sizeable portion think they do not have a problem, at least initially. They figure it fits into their lives because they alter their lives to allow for it as it slowly takes more and more time. Even if the addicts are less than 5% of the total players, I don't think a video game is worth the potential addiction (edit: for me I mean)
 

Insane3D

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I've never played them because spening $50 on a game, then having to pay a monthly fee as well makes no sense to me.
 

oogabooga

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I like WoW (as you can see from the sig) and i ended up playing on the server i am cause of supadupapan... but picked horde instead of alliance :D
I do play quite a bit, sometimes in liu of a social gathering that i know will be boring (dinner with a friends friends who are all.. uhh.. well.. not interesting) and sometimes in liu of scheduled gym visits (which i get hounded for by my friends :( ). But when Dungeon Siege II comes out i'm sure i'll pick that up and play.

I still have seen most of the recent movies i want to, all in the company of good friends, and still frequently talk to people etc. I'm not a total recluse.
 

rh71

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I used to MUD (entirely text-based)... but it took a lot of convincing by my "geekier" (non-athletic) friends for me to get started because it wasn't as interesting as say... partcipating in sports (which, BTW, can't be beat). But once I created my own character, the thought of building it up was intriguing. Despite being semi-repetitive... it was addictive and fun. Interacting with other people and helping them was a part of it too. The only reason I stopped was because it ceased to exist after I left college.

So is it quality entertainment ? I'd say so. Is it for the socially inept ? Well it would probably make you socially inept as a result, but not the other way around, necessarily.
 

nageov3t

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are they addictive?

I think it depends on your self control. I can play WoW as much or as little as I want to. I guess I do play a lot, but only because I often play at odd hours... when I get home from work at 1 am, there's much much to do other than eat dinner and either play video games or watch tv. I personally prefer to play video games, since there is some interaction on my part, rather than sitting there passively watching the television.

the fact that I play with some RL friends also helps a lot.

but I still maintain an active social life. for WoW to take priority over a real-life social event it would have to be something major (ie: planned out weeks in advance... I'd never drop something that I'd been planning long in advance just because some random friend calls up bored and asks if I want to drive over to his house and just hang out or something)
 
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The addition is different depending on the game.

For stupid PvE grind fests like WoW/EQ/DAoC/Etc where the only point to the game is to gain levels and try not to bore yourself silly doing it, the addition is less healthy....the "leveling" is taking the place of something else in your life usually.

Open games like UO, where you used to be able to come close to maxing out your character in a few hours (skel knights anyone? ;)) are a slightly less unhealthy addiction. UO was Life Light.....a little more like the addition people have with The Sims where you just find the goings-on in the virtual world to be more dramatic and entertaining than what's going on in yours.

I actually feared for humanity when I started playing UO. I thought, man, in ten years or so they'll have games like this but with 100x more detail and variety and people will just want to live there almost full time. Unluckily for the apes, civilization is going to be fine thanks to the financial success of EQ and the subsequent myraid clones.
 

exilera

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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
MMORPGs require decision-making skills and social interaction, unlike America's great pasttime, the boob-tube. They're not a problem, people who lack discipline are. Their addictions range from TV to food to drugs to MMORPGs. It's not a fault of the aforementioned things, but of the aforementioned people.


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illusion88

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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: DougK62
I play WoW about 5 hours a week with my brother, have a great time, and in no way does it influence the rest of my life.

I've been playing since launch and have a level 37 Druid.

since launch and you only have a lvl37 druid? :confused:

yeah WTF?
Are you MMO retarted? I got to 30 in 3 days.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: DougK62
I play WoW about 5 hours a week with my brother, have a great time, and in no way does it influence the rest of my life.

I've been playing since launch and have a level 37 Druid.

since launch and you only have a lvl37 druid? :confused:

yeah WTF?
Are you MMO retarted? I got to 30 in 3 days.

eh. who cares how fast he levels?

maybe he has a bunch of alts or just enjoys hanging out in IF. the great thing about games like WoW is that, for the most part, you can play however you want to.
 

Falloutboy

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I play eve a couple hours before I go to bed usually . great fun and maybe I'm a bit addiccted but I don't turn down going our with friends or anything to play a damn game though
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The addition is different depending on the game.

For stupid PvE grind fests like WoW/EQ/DAoC/Etc where the only point to the game is to gain levels and try not to bore yourself silly doing it, the addition is less healthy....the "leveling" is taking the place of something else in your life usually.

Open games like UO, where you used to be able to come close to maxing out your character in a few hours (skel knights anyone? ;)) are a slightly less unhealthy addiction. UO was Life Light.....a little more like the addition people have with The Sims where you just find the goings-on in the virtual world to be more dramatic and entertaining than what's going on in yours.

I actually feared for humanity when I started playing UO. I thought, man, in ten years or so they'll have games like this but with 100x more detail and variety and people will just want to live there almost full time. Unluckily for the apes, civilization is going to be fine thanks to the financial success of EQ and the subsequent myraid clones.

Do you suffer from frequent nosebleeds from sitting on that high-horse of yours? :confused:
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
But I believe you can't "play" an MMORPG anything less than 20+ hours a week and get anything from them.....at least none of the MMORPGs out right now.
I play WoW significantly less than 20 hours per week, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. If I'm not "playing" it, then what exactly am I doing???
 
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
But I believe you can't "play" an MMORPG anything less than 20+ hours a week and get anything from them.....at least none of the MMORPGs out right now.
I play WoW significantly less than 20 hours per week, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. If I'm not "playing" it, then what exactly am I doing???

You're an MMORPG tourist. You'll see the sites, but you won't experience the city.
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.
 
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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Problem is, that IS the point of these levelling-based MMOs. If it wasn't, they'd give you something else compelling to do.

 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Problem is, that IS the point of these levelling-based MMOs. If it wasn't, they'd give you something else compelling to do.

If you don't find the lower levels / beginning stages of these games enjoyable, I'm sorry to hear that - but many people do, so perhaps the problem isn't with the game..
 

aplefka

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Are you serious? 29 people here need to be taken outside and beaten with a stick and then shot with a gun and then drowned with a kiddie pool. If you playing a computer game prohibits you from having an active social life, your life must be a total failure.
 

ElFenix

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just saying MMO is stupid. massively multiplayer online what? you have no noun. just a string of adjectives.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Those who think they need to be maximum level with the best raid gear to enjoy the game are missing the point in a laughable manner.

Problem is, that IS the point of these levelling-based MMOs. If it wasn't, they'd give you something else compelling to do.

There are non level based MMOs?