University of Phoenix...Anyone Attend There?

[Andrew111]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Andrew111
University of Phoenix is not accredited for MOST of the degrees they offer which means your degree is the equivalent of garbage to many employers.

The major complaints with the University of Phoenix are as follows:

# Lack of Professional Accreditation for Most Degrees
# "Boiler Room" Recruiting Practices
# Use of Spam to Recruit
# Misrepresentations and False Guarantees by Recruiters, Counselors, and Financial Aid
# Poor Customer Service
# Poor Quality of Instruction
# Poor Technology Infrastructure
# Poor Quality of Classmates
# Financial Aid Carelessness
# General Lack of Respect for the Customer (Student)
# Education Does Not Meet Federal Guidelines
# Abysmal Graduation Rates

Taken from http://uopsucks.com/

Well that's an unbiased source if I've ever seen one. I would rely 100% on their opinions.

I'm sure the authors of the site had a lovely experience with Phoenix The fact remains that they are not accredited for their degrees.....which means a Phoenix degree is looked down on and not even accepted by many employers, including my current employer.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Andrew111
University of Phoenix is not accredited for MOST of the degrees they offer which means your degree is the equivalent of garbage to many employers.

The major complaints with the University of Phoenix are as follows:

# Lack of Professional Accreditation for Most Degrees
# "Boiler Room" Recruiting Practices
# Use of Spam to Recruit
# Misrepresentations and False Guarantees by Recruiters, Counselors, and Financial Aid
# Poor Customer Service
# Poor Quality of Instruction
# Poor Technology Infrastructure
# Poor Quality of Classmates
# Financial Aid Carelessness
# General Lack of Respect for the Customer (Student)
# Education Does Not Meet Federal Guidelines
# Abysmal Graduation Rates

Taken from http://uopsucks.com/

Well that's an unbiased source if I've ever seen one. I would rely 100% on their opinions.

Ya I saw that site and had the exact same reaction Slsmnaz did. That's why I came here to see what ATOT thought.

Honestly most employers look at your resume and see that you have a BS. Some may go as far as to see what college you went to...that's about it. I inquired to many employers about which schools they rather hire from and which one they would steer clear from. All I got were deer in headlight looks.

 

[Pacemaker]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Andrew111
University of Phoenix is not accredited for MOST of the degrees they offer which means your degree is the equivalent of garbage to many employers.

The major complaints with the University of Phoenix are as follows:

# Lack of Professional Accreditation for Most Degrees
# "Boiler Room" Recruiting Practices
# Use of Spam to Recruit
# Misrepresentations and False Guarantees by Recruiters, Counselors, and Financial Aid
# Poor Customer Service
# Poor Quality of Instruction
# Poor Technology Infrastructure
# Poor Quality of Classmates
# Financial Aid Carelessness
# General Lack of Respect for the Customer (Student)
# Education Does Not Meet Federal Guidelines
# Abysmal Graduation Rates

Taken from http://uopsucks.com/

Well that's an unbiased source if I've ever seen one. I would rely 100% on their opinions.

The fact that not many other schools (none that I know of) have a website devoted to how bad they are is enough to make me think twice about going. While the data could be wrong (and some of it probably is) the fact that it exists is proof that more than a few people are upset with the level of education they got for their money.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Andrew111
University of Phoenix is not accredited for MOST of the degrees they offer which means your degree is the equivalent of garbage to many employers.

The major complaints with the University of Phoenix are as follows:

# Lack of Professional Accreditation for Most Degrees
# "Boiler Room" Recruiting Practices
# Use of Spam to Recruit
# Misrepresentations and False Guarantees by Recruiters, Counselors, and Financial Aid
# Poor Customer Service
# Poor Quality of Instruction
# Poor Technology Infrastructure
# Poor Quality of Classmates
# Financial Aid Carelessness
# General Lack of Respect for the Customer (Student)
# Education Does Not Meet Federal Guidelines
# Abysmal Graduation Rates

Taken from http://uopsucks.com/

Well that's an unbiased source if I've ever seen one. I would rely 100% on their opinions.

The fact that not many other schools (none that I know of) have a website devoted to how bad they are is enough to make me think twice about going. While the data could be wrong (and some of it probably is) the fact that it exists is proof that more than a few people are upset with the level of education they got for their money.

I agree which is why i'm definitely seeking as much information as I can about it. Only good thing I can think of is our Director of homeland security got his schooling done at UOP. Take it for what you will of course lol.

 

[Andrew111]

I haven't seen a single University of Phoenix representative at any of the military installations I've been to and I imagine it stems from the fact that the military will not pay for someone to go to a college that is not accredited. If you're trying to land a decent job many of the job descriptions I've seen for my line of work state the college degree must come from an accredited college.

 

[ngvepforever2]

I don't understand your way of thinking. Almost everyone is telling you that UOP is not worth it and you keep asking for more reasons. While the site that was linked above is biased, most of the stuff they tell you is true. Many employers look down upon UOP (unless it's a nursing degree I think...). UNLV is a better (and much, much cheaper) college.

ng

 

[txrandom]

Don't seriously even think about going to UOP.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: Andrew111
I haven't seen a single University of Phoenix representative at any of the military installations I've been to and I imagine it stems from the fact that the military will not pay for someone to go to a college that is not accredited. If you're trying to land a decent job many of the job descriptions I've seen for my line of work state the college degree must come from an accredited college.

Yea the accredited part I did not know about and will definitely look into. If that's the case than I will have some serious thinking to do as it's pointless to go to UOP for the convenience/speed of getting my degree for it to mean nothing when i'm through.

Originally posted by: ngvepforever2
I don't understand your way of thinking. Almost everyone is telling you that UOP is not worth it and you keep asking for more reasons. While the site that was linked above is biased, most of the stuff they tell you is true. Many employers look down upon UOP (unless it's a nursing degree I think...). UNLV is a better (and much, much cheaper) college.

ng

It's the nature of a good debater to throw different questions/possibilities as you to ascertain how certain you are of your comments. I'm not fighting for or against UOP. I'm just trying to pick out the people who truly do know what they are talking about versus the people who don't. Then I can make a more accurate decision based on the facts.

 

[RollWave]

I've run into a number of people who had associates or other degrees from places like UofP and they ended up going to my state school....employers want real accredited institutions....having been around admissions for my grad school I can tell you the school matters A LOT to some of these chairmen.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: txrandom
Don't seriously even think about going to UOP.

Comments like this one are perfect examples of why I ask for more information. Telling me to not seriously think about going to UOP and having no reasons behind it, gives me no reason to pay attention to the comment. Now backing it up with your employers preferences, experiences friends/family/yourself has had with UOP, or websites are a good way of backing your opinions.

 

[halik]

Well it seems you're set with the idea anyway... Honestly, I would save the money and focus on work experience if you need something to pad your resume. People know what kind of "caliber" that school is; it will not impress anyone.

 

[Cal166]

Originally posted by: Andrew111
University of Phoenix is not accredited for MOST of the degrees they offer which means your degree is the equivalent of garbage to many employers.

The major complaints with the University of Phoenix are as follows:

# Lack of Professional Accreditation for Most Degrees
# "Boiler Room" Recruiting Practices
# Use of Spam to Recruit
# Misrepresentations and False Guarantees by Recruiters, Counselors, and Financial Aid
# Poor Customer Service
# Poor Quality of Instruction
# Poor Technology Infrastructure
# Poor Quality of Classmates
# Financial Aid Carelessness
# General Lack of Respect for the Customer (Student)
# Education Does Not Meet Federal Guidelines
# Abysmal Graduation Rates

Taken from http://uopsucks.com/

Watched an new report the other day on MY9(NY), The above complaints are right on.

 

[MaverickBP]

UOP's accreditation. Nothing really mentioned for the IT field but everything else is covered lol...figures. Take it for what you will as it's on their site as opposed to a unbiased site.

http://www.phoenix.edu/about_u...ion/accreditation.aspx

 

[Dacalo]

I work at accounting/banking industry and University of Phoenix is not considered a "real" school. It's unfortunate but that's reality.

The school is very expensive as well from what I have heard, and with that price, you might as well as attend a regular college. Not only would it be cheaper, but you would also have the name to back it up.

 

[Capt Caveman]

The fact that the majority of folks here do not consider UoP to be a reputable source of education should indicate what others will think when you apply for jobs/interview. A degree at UNLV(which has online classes) is your best option.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: Dacalo
I work at accounting/banking industry and University of Phoenix is not considered a "real" school. It's unfortunate but that's reality.

The school is very expensive as well from what I have heard, and with that price, you might as well as attend a regular college. Not only would it be cheaper, but you would also have the name to back it up.

I agree. It's kinda stupid to pay at least twice as much for a school that's not considered real if that's in fact how most employers see it. It does have some nice conveniences but I wondered how much I was willing to pay for those conveniences. I just hate the idea of going to a regular college while working full time. My sister is finishing up her math degree at UNLV and besides her 1 year of teaching she has to do to complete her degree, it added up to a total of about 6 1/2 years once everythings said and done. And she's a full-time student! I have to work many hours at my job and even waiting that long, if not more than likely longer to achieve my BS, is ridiculous.

 

[skim milk]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: Dacalo
I work at accounting/banking industry and University of Phoenix is not considered a "real" school. It's unfortunate but that's reality.

The school is very expensive as well from what I have heard, and with that price, you might as well as attend a regular college. Not only would it be cheaper, but you would also have the name to back it up.

I agree. It's kinda stupid to pay at least twice as much for a school that's not considered real if that's in fact how most employers see it. It does have some nice conveniences but I wondered how much I was willing to pay for those conveniences. I just hate the idea of going to a regular college while working full time. My sister is finishing up her math degree at UNLV and besides her 1 year of teaching she has to do to complete her degree, it added up to a total of about 6 1/2 years once everythings said and done. And she's a full-time student! I have to work many hours at my job and even waiting that long, if not more than likely longer to achieve my BS, is ridiculous.

you can be a part-time student (taking night classes so it doesn't interfere with your job) at a nearby university such as UNLV and complete your degree. It can be done within a reasonable amount of time.. definitely much shorter than 6 1/2 years

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: fritolays

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: Dacalo
I work at accounting/banking industry and University of Phoenix is not considered a "real" school. It's unfortunate but that's reality.

The school is very expensive as well from what I have heard, and with that price, you might as well as attend a regular college. Not only would it be cheaper, but you would also have the name to back it up.

I agree. It's kinda stupid to pay at least twice as much for a school that's not considered real if that's in fact how most employers see it. It does have some nice conveniences but I wondered how much I was willing to pay for those conveniences. I just hate the idea of going to a regular college while working full time. My sister is finishing up her math degree at UNLV and besides her 1 year of teaching she has to do to complete her degree, it added up to a total of about 6 1/2 years once everythings said and done. And she's a full-time student! I have to work many hours at my job and even waiting that long, if not more than likely longer to achieve my BS, is ridiculous.

you can be a part-time student (taking night classes so it doesn't interfere with your job) at a nearby university such as UNLV and complete your degree. It can be done within a reasonable amount of time.. definitely much shorter than 6 1/2 years

That's now what i've been seeing. What i've been seeing lately is a bachelors is no longer the "4 year degree" and it usually ends up taking longer than that. That's also for a full time student. Part time would only increase the amount of time if not double it depending on how many classes you can take. Then of course comes the problem with class schedules. Finding a class that you can work around your work schedule can be pretty hard sometimes. That was one of the things I liked about UOP. I could either do online courses or go to a ground class that was always from 6-10 pm at night. That damn accreditation thing really put a sour note on my thoughts of attending there though. :|

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: halik
Heh I'd go to community college over that place... you might as well buy yourself a degree from the first spam email you get.

Ok but you're not giving any reasons behind your opinion.

I doubt he's gone to college yet either, otherwise he may have known how to support a statement better.

UoP is hit or miss. It really depends on what you are looking to do and how the job market you are entering views those credentials.

For some in upper management, it makes it easy to get additional degrees while already having a decent job. YMMV on some of that.

To me with a science background, nothing can replace hands on actual lab time. You can mix up chemicals virtually all you want, and Joe the Idiot Genius does well at that. However; put that same guy in a real lab and all of a sudden he can't release less than 5 drops from a pipette when the reaction calls for no more than 1 in bold print.

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[Andrew111]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
UOP's accreditation. Nothing really mentioned for the IT field but everything else is covered lol...figures. Take it for what you will as it's on their site as opposed to a unbiased site.

http://www.phoenix.edu/about_u...ion/accreditation.aspx

University of Phoenix's accreditation is the subject of controversy. The issue is not whether UOP is actually accredited by the groups it claims - the real concern is that the accrediting groups are non-notable to many employers, and that UOP is not accredited by the groups that subjectively matter to employers.

The New York Times, in a February 11, 2007 article, reported that Intel dropped UOP from its tuition reimbursement program due to concerns that UOP lacked appropriate accreditation. The article acknowledges that UOP is "regionally accredited" but quotes an Intel manager drawing a distinction of "highly accredited" and clearly excluding the University of Phoenix from it. The same article makes reference to UOP's business degree program as an "MBA Lite" and notes that UOP lacks accreditation from the most significant accreditation agency for business schools, the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business.

Many diploma mills label themselves as accredited

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U..._Phoenix#Accreditation

 

[Ns1]

I was presented with a similar situation. I was supposed to go to westwood college, get my AA, and move on from there. 2 days before I was supposed to attend (and get billed) I dropped out, went to a CC, and then transferred over to a 4 year college. Best. Idea. Ever.

You will seriously earn NO respect with a UoP degree on your resume.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: halik
Heh I'd go to community college over that place... you might as well buy yourself a degree from the first spam email you get.

Ok but you're not giving any reasons behind your opinion.

I doubt he's gone to college yet either, otherwise he may have known how to support a statement better.

UoP is hit or miss. It really depends on what you are looking to do and how the job market you are entering views those credentials.

For some in upper management, it makes it easy to get additional degrees while already having a decent job. YMMV on some of that.

To me with a science background, nothing can replace hands on actual lab time. You can mix up chemicals virtually all you want, and Joe the Idiot Genius does well at that. However; put that same guy in a real lab and all of a sudden he can't release less than 5 drops from a pipette when the reaction calls for no more than 1 in bold print.

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Couldn't agree with you more. I definitely don't want to be labeled as a "paper cert". However the last two years of my BS (the 2 years with all the computer classes) i'd be attending the actual campus for the hands on. I wanna make sure I know the job instead of just having a paper saying I do. The first 2 years of the degree are all prereq classes like math, literature, social studies, etc.

 

[Rage187]

it's a scam.

they say only a few hours of school a week but you also have to attend study groups which require a lot of time.

Had a friend get a master's in mathmatics and then found out no one would hite her with it. Crap load of money for nothing.

 

[A5]

Go to UNLV if that's your other option. Cheaper and better is an attractive combo.

BS degrees don't take more than 4 years unless you go really slowly - I'm going to finish my engineering BS in 5 years (from a good school), and that includes 4 semesters of working full-time and not taking classes during those semesters. If you go to school part-time, expect it to take 6 years, though.

 

[azazyel]

I would stay away from it just based on the stigma attached to the name. I worked my way through school and it did take me about 7 years to do it but it was worth it. I took night and online classes from a CC and then did the Evening Degree Program from University of Washington.