University of Miami WHAT!? Canes rule WHAT!?

Warthog912

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They are good no doubt- but I don't believe they are the best- The Miami/VT game at the end of the year will be GOOD.

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Codewiz

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Originally posted by: Warthog912
They are good no doubt- but I don't believe they are the best- The Miami/VT game at the end of the year will be GOOD.

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VT lost again. They were always overrated just like NC State. Good to see overrated teams get beat. Miami is good when they show up to the game. They just have a problem showing up when they are playing subpar teams. Ohio State will lose before the season is over also. They always blow it. I think it will be Washington State Vs. Miami. I don't think Texas deserves the spot.
 

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Right. What pisses me off is that, in theory, the Canes could have played the 3,4,5 and 6 teams in the country. They had a completely UNPRECIDENTED schedule.

FSU started the season 4. Tenn started 5. Florida started 7. Va Tech started 16. Hell, FSU even got some first place votes int the first poll. Screw Notre Dame, and OU's "tough" schedule! That's INSANE. And think, that doesn't even count a good BC team or a good Pitt team.

Fast forward to week 3. Tenn 4, FSU 5, Florida 6 and Va Tech 10. (and VT even made it up to number 3 at one point)

Just sit and think about that one for a sec.

I can't believe anyone thought that they weren't the best team in the country. I mean, it's not their fault that the teams they're playing lose games. They scheduled the hardest schedule possible. They said "hey, we're going to go and play these teams". You can't ask for anything more. Colorado is a good team. Texas is a good team. But man..OUs schedule isn't anything compared to Miami.

Who would YOU rather play? CU, Texas, ISU and Alabama, or Florida, Florida State, Tennesee and Virginia tech.

Miami is the best team in the country. Even if they lose a game, they are in a class by themselves. Case closed.

 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Warthog912
They are good no doubt- but I don't believe they are the best- The Miami/VT game at the end of the year will be GOOD.

Warthog912


VT lost again. They were always overrated just like NC State. Good to see overrated teams get beat. Miami is good when they show up to the game. They just have a problem showing up when they are playing subpar teams. Ohio State will lose before the season is over also. They always blow it. I think it will be Washington State Vs. Miami. I don't think Texas deserves the spot.
They blew it when Cooper was coaching. Tressel's not blowing anything. We'll beat Illinois next week, and we're playing that team up North in Columbus. OSU's going to win out.

ZV

EDIT: OSU kicked San Jose State all over the field, drilled Minnesota, and beat Penn State. Illinois isn't going to be the team that beats us. And I honestly don't think that anyone can touch us if we're playing in The Shoe.
 

minendo

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Miami is the best team in the country. Even if they lose a game, they are in a class by themselves. Case closed.
In all of your rambling you forgot to mention Ohio State, Iowa, and several other key players. Just because Miami hasn't lost doesn't mean sh!t.
 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Warthog912
They are good no doubt- but I don't believe they are the best- The Miami/VT game at the end of the year will be GOOD.

Warthog912


VT lost again. They were always overrated just like NC State. Good to see overrated teams get beat. Miami is good when they show up to the game. They just have a problem showing up when they are playing subpar teams. Ohio State will lose before the season is over also. They always blow it. I think it will be Washington State Vs. Miami. I don't think Texas deserves the spot.

are you kidding?! I serisouly doubt that we'll lose. Illinois shouldn't be too bad and since M*ch*g*n is at home it'll be a good game but we'll have the advantage.

I give us HIGH odds that we'll be meeting up with Miami for the championship... although I don't look forward to it ;) :p


Miami IS a good team
 

Spudd

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Correction. Miami is the BEST team. Period. And you know it. Hehe. GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

NeoV

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Washington St vs Miami? OSU dominated Washington St...


Here is a question....if OSU beats Illinois and Michigan, what happens if V.Tech or Pitt beats Miami? I would think the winner of the big 12 championship game, Texas or Oklahoma, would be #2, but who knows? BCS may have been breathing easier as the undefeated teams fell, but they could still have a mess if there is only 1 undefeated team or no undefeated teams....If OSU and Miami win out their regular season games, then no problem as to who plays for the championship, but that is still a big if at this point.


Go Buckeyes!

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Codewiz

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Ummm if you have watched football over the years, an early season loss is A LOT less harmful than a late season loss. OSU has always blown it to teams that were below their talent level. OSU will blow it. They always do. Are they are great team? Yes but they are just too good at blowing it. It is the attitude of thinking a team won't be a problem that will get you. Look at OU this weekend. OU was the better team but lost to a lower quality team. It happens to teams every year. Just because you have a better team doesn't mean you win. A good example is that FSU beat Maryland early this year but I personally think that if those two teams played again right now that Maryland would destroy them. Maryland has gotten better during the season and FSU hasn't. Just because a team beats another early in the season doesn't mean that team is better at the end of the season.

I think Washington State is playing better football than OSU right now. I think that if Miami shows up at the Fiesta Bowl, it really won't matter who they are playing. I personally thought OU was the only team that could stop Miami. OSU has a good offense but you seriously can't think it is better than Miami. I don't think any team's defense can stop Miami, the only chance is to slow them down enough for your offense to score more points.
 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Ummm if you have watched football over the years, an early season loss is A LOT less harmful than a late season loss. OSU has always blown it to teams that were below their talent level. OSU will blow it. They always do. Are they are great team? Yes but they are just too good at blowing it. It is the attitude of thinking a team won't be a problem that will get you. Look at OU this weekend. OU was the better team but lost to a lower quality team. It happens to teams every year. Just because you have a better team doesn't mean you win. A good example is that FSU beat Maryland early this year but I personally think that if those two teams played again right now that Maryland would destroy them. Maryland has gotten better during the season and FSU hasn't. Just because a team beats another early in the season doesn't mean that team is better at the end of the season.

I think Washington State is playing better football than OSU right now. I think that if Miami shows up at the Fiesta Bowl, it really won't matter who they are playing. I personally thought OU was the only team that could stop Miami. OSU has a good offense but you seriously can't think it is better than Miami. I don't think any team's defense can stop Miami, the only chance is to slow them down enough for your offense to score more points.

Iowa could beat Miami and so could OU. OSU could beat Miami with some luck.
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Ummm if you have watched football over the years, an early season loss is A LOT less harmful than a late season loss. OSU has always blown it to teams that were below their talent level. OSU will blow it. They always do. Are they are great team? Yes but they are just too good at blowing it. It is the attitude of thinking a team won't be a problem that will get you. Look at OU this weekend. OU was the better team but lost to a lower quality team. It happens to teams every year. Just because you have a better team doesn't mean you win. A good example is that FSU beat Maryland early this year but I personally think that if those two teams played again right now that Maryland would destroy them. Maryland has gotten better during the season and FSU hasn't. Just because a team beats another early in the season doesn't mean that team is better at the end of the season.

I think Washington State is playing better football than OSU right now. I think that if Miami shows up at the Fiesta Bowl, it really won't matter who they are playing. I personally thought OU was the only team that could stop Miami. OSU has a good offense but you seriously can't think it is better than Miami. I don't think any team's defense can stop Miami, the only chance is to slow them down enough for your offense to score more points.

Iowa could beat Miami and so could OU. OSU could beat Miami with some luck.

Iowa????? You have to be joking. They are a great team but have not been tested whatsoever. They haven't played a good team yet unless you count Michigan. Penn State is a good team but not all that great and they barely beat Penn State. I would agree that the Iowa State loss really doesn't hurt them simply because that is an instate rival and Iowa State isn't a gimme team. I just can't see how someone can say Iowa is better than Miami when Iowa hasn't played anyone.

OSU needs A LOT of luck to beat Miami. Who cares if OU could beat Miami now because it won't happen in the national championship.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Ummm if you have watched football over the years, an early season loss is A LOT less harmful than a late season loss. OSU has always blown it to teams that were below their talent level. OSU will blow it. They always do. Are they are great team? Yes but they are just too good at blowing it. It is the attitude of thinking a team won't be a problem that will get you. Look at OU this weekend. OU was the better team but lost to a lower quality team. It happens to teams every year. Just because you have a better team doesn't mean you win. A good example is that FSU beat Maryland early this year but I personally think that if those two teams played again right now that Maryland would destroy them. Maryland has gotten better during the season and FSU hasn't. Just because a team beats another early in the season doesn't mean that team is better at the end of the season.

I think Washington State is playing better football than OSU right now. I think that if Miami shows up at the Fiesta Bowl, it really won't matter who they are playing. I personally thought OU was the only team that could stop Miami. OSU has a good offense but you seriously can't think it is better than Miami. I don't think any team's defense can stop Miami, the only chance is to slow them down enough for your offense to score more points.

Iowa could beat Miami and so could OU. OSU could beat Miami with some luck.

Iowa????? You have to be joking. They are a great team but have not been tested whatsoever. They haven't played a good team yet unless you count Michigan. Penn State is a good team but not all that great and they barely beat Penn State. I would agree that the Iowa State loss really doesn't hurt them simply because that is an instate rival and Iowa State isn't a gimme team. I just can't see how someone can say Iowa is better than Miami when Iowa hasn't played anyone.

OSU needs A LOT of luck to beat Miami. Who cares if OU could beat Miami now because it won't happen in the national championship.

I didn't say Iowa is better. I said they could(ability to) beat Miami if they played. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Ummm if you have watched football over the years, an early season loss is A LOT less harmful than a late season loss. OSU has always blown it to teams that were below their talent level. OSU will blow it. They always do. Are they are great team? Yes but they are just too good at blowing it. It is the attitude of thinking a team won't be a problem that will get you. Look at OU this weekend. OU was the better team but lost to a lower quality team. It happens to teams every year. Just because you have a better team doesn't mean you win. A good example is that FSU beat Maryland early this year but I personally think that if those two teams played again right now that Maryland would destroy them. Maryland has gotten better during the season and FSU hasn't. Just because a team beats another early in the season doesn't mean that team is better at the end of the season.

I think Washington State is playing better football than OSU right now. I think that if Miami shows up at the Fiesta Bowl, it really won't matter who they are playing. I personally thought OU was the only team that could stop Miami. OSU has a good offense but you seriously can't think it is better than Miami. I don't think any team's defense can stop Miami, the only chance is to slow them down enough for your offense to score more points.

Iowa could beat Miami and so could OU. OSU could beat Miami with some luck.

Iowa????? You have to be joking. They are a great team but have not been tested whatsoever. They haven't played a good team yet unless you count Michigan. Penn State is a good team but not all that great and they barely beat Penn State. I would agree that the Iowa State loss really doesn't hurt them simply because that is an instate rival and Iowa State isn't a gimme team. I just can't see how someone can say Iowa is better than Miami when Iowa hasn't played anyone.

OSU needs A LOT of luck to beat Miami. Who cares if OU could beat Miami now because it won't happen in the national championship.

I didn't say Iowa is better. I said they could(ability to) beat Miami if they played. ;)

I think a lot of teams "could" beat Miami but it all depends on which Miami team shows up. If their "A" team shows up then it is a uphill battle to have a chance at beating them. Last year they were motivated since they had been screwed the previous year. This year they seem to have an attitude that they can walk on the field and the other team will shake in their shoes. It just doesn't happen. I think they showed Tenn. that Miami can play if they have to.

BTW, I don't like OSU, Miami, or OU. I just love college football. My team(Clemson) has been ruined by a crappy Bowden. Our last good coach was Hatfield and he got screwed because he came right after Danny Ford. Danny Ford is god in Clemson. Bowden was a bad choice for a coach at Clemson. South Carolina as a state has smash mouth football players. The High Schools just don't have finesse players that are required in Bowden's offense. Combine that with the fact we can't recruit outside of SC means we suck. We need a power offense where we run up the middle 80% of the plays. Clemson has awesome running backs right now but we can't use them because our offensive line is horrible.

Anyways, I would like to see another shake up with Miami and OSU lossing so that maybe college football can get a playoff system instead of just the BCS. If Miami and OSU lose then there are a lot of teams that have valid claims at the national championship :)




 

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Got some canes over here....whoosh whoosh

Anywho....yea, VT is gonna be good. But I'm not worried. The only reason canes are slacking against subpar teams is cause they aren't putting their all into it every game. They're thinking "These guys are pushovers, let's relax for a bit and save our strength for bigger guys."

Not the best mentality, but the Canes aren't going to let me down. I can easily see things breaking some major records this year. I don't know what Coker is doing, but he's doing it right.

Whoosh...
 

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I'd like to see Miami lose to VT and then have the BCS give a coin toss as to who will play us (OSU) I do admit, right now I think Miami is a better team. Our offense rarely shows up for a full game but our defense would stop them from running up the board.


Something thats so different about the Big 10 than any other conference is we run a lot of running games and for the most part have great defenses. LOTS of other teams just run HUGE passing plays that run the score up. We don't get as much credit because our games end up like 14 - 7 or 17 -3 instead of Southern and Pac 10 teams that hit the 30s and 40s ever game but BOTH teams do it. I'm just saying there is a big difference in conferences and its hard to tell how one team will play against another until they actually do.

So all we can do is wait and see
 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Ummm if you have watched football over the years, an early season loss is A LOT less harmful than a late season loss. OSU has always blown it to teams that were below their talent level. OSU will blow it. They always do. Are they are great team? Yes but they are just too good at blowing it. It is the attitude of thinking a team won't be a problem that will get you. Look at OU this weekend. OU was the better team but lost to a lower quality team. It happens to teams every year. Just because you have a better team doesn't mean you win. A good example is that FSU beat Maryland early this year but I personally think that if those two teams played again right now that Maryland would destroy them. Maryland has gotten better during the season and FSU hasn't. Just because a team beats another early in the season doesn't mean that team is better at the end of the season.

I think Washington State is playing better football than OSU right now. I think that if Miami shows up at the Fiesta Bowl, it really won't matter who they are playing. I personally thought OU was the only team that could stop Miami. OSU has a good offense but you seriously can't think it is better than Miami. I don't think any team's defense can stop Miami, the only chance is to slow them down enough for your offense to score more points.
In past years OSU has been an offensive football team though. This year it's the defense that's doing all the work. This year's OSU team is very unlike OSU under Cooper or Bruce, and Tressel is a very different coach than either Cooper or Bruce. Yes, OSU has a history of blowing it in recent years, but they have really turned things around this year. Purdue was the real test, and we came through. Even though OSU historically is challenged by Illinois, I think after the Purdue game Tressel will have the team ready for Illinois. I don't honestly think that we'll beat Miami, but we'll beat Michigan and Illinois. The way that OSU has played at home this year, that team up North shouldn't be much trouble. Our defence is playing better now than it has all year, and it's carrying the team. The offence should come back, though as long as the defence keeps playing as it has been, OSU's going to win out.

ZV
 

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Something thats so different about the Big 10 than any other conference is we run a lot of running games and for the most part have great defenses

the same could be said about the Big 12. It's not like they are on any different standard.
 

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And yet it's a moot point, since you'll ALL still get your collective butts handed to you by Miami. Keep hoping for us to lose, but I can assure you, when we NEED to play great, we do. And yes I say we. I'm a Hurricane, so I'm not "band waggoning." Hehe.
 

BDawg

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Miami shold drop their joke of an "Academic" program and just become a professional team.
 

Spudd

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ROFLMAO....Who-who-who-WHO cares? We won. And winning is what ultimately counts. If that had been ANY other team than Miami, people would have said "WOW. What an incredible team, to come back from behind and win by so much!" But because it's Miami, and so many people hate the Canes, they disrespect them. It's alright. We'll hopefully be the champs again this year, so all you Cane-haters can feel crappy for another year.
 

NeoV

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a few corrections...


any team coming from behind against Rutgers would NOT have gotten any "wow, great comeback" pat on the backs....Rutgers is an awful team, and Miami should be ashamed for trailing entering the 4th quarter.

Miami's academic program for their football players is no worse than the majority of Division 1 programs.


The Big 12 is a different conference, featuring way more running QB's than other conferences. Texas is really the only pro-style offense in that conference..and don't tell me about Texas Tech, that is borderline run-and-duck offense...I think this hurts the Big 12's top teams when they face pro-style offenses in Major bowl games.


I think Miami would beat OSU, but I think it would be a competitive game...OSU's defense is excellent, and by then Clarrett should be 100% healthy, and teams have shown that you can run the ball, power-style, on the Canes...they are too fast to run much to the outside, but between the tackles they have been pushed around a bit.
 

Spudd

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A few rebuttals...

Says you neo. You can not sit there at your computer and deny that Miami has been disrespected for going on 2 years now. Everybody tries there best to talk crap about Miami. But it's alright. Like I said, winning is all that matters in the end.
 

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Well, Miami is really good, but Syracuse is on a roll now. Beat Va. Tech - I hope Miami looks past SU to Va. Tech and LOSES! MUWHAHAHA.