'United States planning a military strike against Iran'

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I celebrated Christmas this year but have no doubt whatsoever that 'God' in any form is merely a self-comforting fantasy.
But I like pretty lights and ornaments and trees and food... mmmmm food. The Pagans really created a great holiday.

this dude is my favorite anandtech forum poster... with the exception of atheism, we typically seem to agree with each other's posts

 

[Aimster]

Agnostics = smart
Atheist = Lost
Religious = brainwashed

didn't you all get the memo?
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With that said this thread is done with

 

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Agnostics = smart
Atheist = Lost
Religious = brainwashed

didn't you all get the memo?
😛

With that said this thread is done with

haha 🙂

 

[CaptnKirk]

Aimster -

What's your take on this ?

 

[DannyBoy]

England rocks.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Aimster -

What's your take on this ?

The MEK are nothing but a bunch of terrorist who deserve to be executed.

They kill innocent civilians in Iran.

When the Iranian regime falls there is no chance in hell they will have any power. Nobody in Iran likes them. Nobody outside Iran likes them (they are listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S).

They even helped the Arabs when they invaded Iran.

This group is the same group that spread the message of taking U.S hostages in Iran in 1979.

They have supporters all over the globe. I've never met one or I would hand it to them.

 

[AragornTK]

I can't wait for the ME to stabilize so I can take a trip to Iran(too bad i'll be dead before it's a stable region)

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Aimster -

What's your take on this ?

The MEK are nothing but a bunch of terrorist who deserve to be executed.

They kill innocent civilians in Iran.

When the Iranian regime falls there is no chance in hell they will have any power. Nobody in Iran likes them. Nobody outside Iran likes them (they are listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S).

They even helped the Arabs when they invaded Iran.

This group is the same group that spread the message of taking U.S hostages in Iran in 1979.

They have supporters all over the globe. I've never met one or I would hand it to them.

So then are you aware that they, a branch of the Mujadin, are counterparts to the 'Nothern Alliance' Mujadin
that the US used to conduct the opening of the war in Afgahanistan as a forward thrust with CIA and US support ?
Do you not see that they are being held in reserve as a 'Trump Card' to be played first - should the US decide to initiate the Iran offensive ?

Armed to the teeth

 

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Originally posted by: AragornTK
I can't wait for the ME to stabilize so I can take a trip to Iran(too bad i'll be dead before it's a stable region)

haha qft, unfortunately

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Hmm, regardless of your position on this issue (yea or nay for war), isn't it a bad step politically to launch a preemptive strike against Iran? It makes us look like agressors in the eyes of other countries... We turn a democracy into a dictatorship and then invade 'em later. We're not here to bully other countries around, so perhaps some consent with the UN might have been a better choice.

Bad move politically, in my opinion. If we were provoked directly then it might be more sensible to actually attack them back.

-The Pentium Guy

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Hmm, regardless of your position on this issue (yea or nay for war), isn't it a bad step politically to launch a preemptive strike against Iran? It makes us look like agressors in the eyes of other countries... We turn a democracy into a dictatorship and then invade 'em later. We're not here to bully other countries around, so perhaps some consent with the UN might have been a better choice.

Bad move politically, in my opinion. If we were provoked directly then it might be more sensible to actually attack them back.

-The Pentium Guy

There was no democracy in Iraq nor is there democracy in Iran right now.

 

[smashp]

Boy the idiots on this thread. i just got stupider reading all of this

 

[Aimster]

MEK

They are no threat to Iran.
They carried out bombings in Iran and Iran launched hundreds of missiles at their base in Iraq. They stopped messing with Iran since then and Iran proved that they could reach targets inside Iraq if they wanted.

Iran's military has hundreds of thousands of men and hundreds of thousands of volunteer militia as well as other volunteer groups.

The MEK can be armed to the teeth but nobody in Iran is going to support them. They will simply be destroyed by Iran's military.

The Northern Alliance was successful in Afghanistan because the Taliban had a military that Cuba could probably defeat. The U.S just needed to send a few thousand troops to support the Northern Alliance. The U.S is going to have to send in all available resources to support the MEK (hundreds of thousands of U.S troops).

The U.S can support MEK all they want. If they wish to really be allied with them then they should take them off the list of terrorist organizations and announce that they are allied with the group who in 1979 in Iran called for people to take the U.S embassy hostage.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Hmm, regardless of your position on this issue (yea or nay for war), isn't it a bad step politically to launch a preemptive strike against Iran? It makes us look like agressors in the eyes of other countries... We turn a democracy into a dictatorship and then invade 'em later. We're not here to bully other countries around, so perhaps some consent with the UN might have been a better choice.

Bad move politically, in my opinion. If we were provoked directly then it might be more sensible to actually attack them back.

-The Pentium Guy

There was no democracy in Iraq nor is there democracy in Iran right now.

I haven't denied that.

....So you're claiming that's a legitimate reason to invade Iran, just because they oppose our governmental views. Again, read my post, who took away the democracy from Iran? The very people invading Iran because they're not a democracy? Yeah, That works very well. Not a good reason to fight the war....but

Normally I'd go with "let a country govern its own affairs", but knowing the current Iranian leader I wouldn't be too sure about that. The current situation in the Middle East's growing more tense, and it looks like someone makes a move, all hell might break loose. But why take action now? All it takes is one catalyst to set off a chain of events. Should we be the ones responsible for starting a large scale war?

Waiting till Iran takes action would have probably been a better idea.

-The Pentium Guy

 

[Aimster]

If the U.S/Israel want to invade-attack Iran they need to do it in the next 6 months.

Iran is upgrading their Migs from Russia and purchasing the F-16 clones from China (The ones they made with Pakistan). Iran has also come to an agreement with Russia to purchase some advanced aircraft (it has not been disclosed what it is they purchased).
-Their air force is being upgraded

As for missile defense systems, each day Iran is purchasing more and more defense systems from Russia to be delivered to Iran by next year making it even harder for U.S/Israel to attack any sites.
-In the last month alone, several types of air defense systems have been purchased.

All other aspects of Iran?s military are being upgraded with the help of Russia/China. Iran is seeing a fast military buildup because the current President fears a ?religious? war.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Agnostics = smart
Atheist = Lost
Religious = brainwashed

didn't you all get the memo?
😛

With that said this thread is done with

Agnostics are Atheist, they just are too embarrassed to admit it since it has become a dirty word.

Agnostics = Atheist = Smart

 

[imported_electron]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Aimster
Agnostics = smart
Atheist = Lost
Religious = brainwashed

didn't you all get the memo?
😛

With that said this thread is done with

Agnostics are Atheist, they just are too embarrassed to admit it since it has become a dirty word.

Agnostics = Atheist = Smart

FFS you're a moron. Agnostic means they don't know if there is a god, and believe it cannot now be known. Atheists believe there is no god.

 

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Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Aimster
Agnostics = smart
Atheist = Lost
Religious = brainwashed

didn't you all get the memo?
😛

With that said this thread is done with

Agnostics are Atheist, they just are too embarrassed to admit it since it has become a dirty word.

Agnostics = Atheist = Smart

if agnostic = athiest = smart, you must be a the archbishop of canterbury.

 

[VERTIGGO]

the only way to be safe from America is to not possess nukes. they're not going to scare anybody away by trying to look dangerous.

 

[AragornTK]

I don't see the US having problems with Iran unless they attack Israel...which is gonna happen when netinyahoo has the israeli air force bomb Iran's nuclear plants...

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: electron
FFS you're a moron. Agnostic means they don't know if there is a god, and believe it cannot now be known. Atheists believe there is no god.

Wow, name calling, big man. Like I said, that's what people say in public to hide the fact they do not believe. Saying that you don't know there is a God and it doesn't matter if one exists is essentially the same thing as saying you don't believe in God.

 

[MCsommerreid]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: electron
FFS you're a moron. Agnostic means they don't know if there is a god, and believe it cannot now be known. Atheists believe there is no god.

Wow, name calling, big man. Like I said, that's what people say in public to hide the fact they do not believe. Saying that you don't know there is a God and it doesn't matter if one exists is essentially the same thing as saying you don't believe in God.

Agnosticism is supposed to mean "I don't know if God exists because I havn't seen any proof yet, but I could easily go either way.". It goes like Christian->Agnostic->Atheist in a line of "level of belief in God", with Christian being the most believing and atheists being the most unbelieving.

 

[Todd33]

Agnosticism is the philosophical view that the truth values of certain claims?particularly theological claims regarding the existence of God, gods, or deities?are unknown, inherently unknowable, or incoherent, and therefore, (some agnostics may go as far to say) irrelevant to life.

However, the more general variety of atheism, weak atheism (also called negative atheism, and sometimes neutral atheism), professes only a lack of belief in a god or gods, which is not equivalent to but is compatible with agnosticism. Critical atheism admits that a god or gods are meaningful concepts but the evidence for them is not in hand, so a default position of not believing in them must be taken in the interim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic

Sounds like different shades of the same thing. One is a simple MGD, the other is a Sam Adams.

 

[Skriptures17]

Proletariat............................sigh



ii just wonder about this guy sometimes................................r u really bush hiding out online???

 

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Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: electron
FFS you're a moron. Agnostic means they don't know if there is a god, and believe it cannot now be known. Atheists believe there is no god.

Wow, name calling, big man. Like I said, that's what people say in public to hide the fact they do not believe. Saying that you don't know there is a God and it doesn't matter if one exists is essentially the same thing as saying you don't believe in God.

ERRRR!!! wrong.