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'United States planning a military strike against Iran'

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The United States government reportedly began coordinating with NATO its plans for a possible military attack against Iran.
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The German newspaper Der Tagesspiegel collected various reports from the German media indicating that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are examining the prospects of such a strike
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According to the report, CIA chief Porter Goss, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12, requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in 2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.
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Wow, not too sure about this one. I mean, this in my opinion might just set off a chain of events in which there maybe no return.
 
Got no choice. They can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and they're not going to be talked out of it.
 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Got no choice. They can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and they're not going to be talked out of it.
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Why, because they might start unjustified wars?

Of course you might be right; once Iraq was invaded, there may be no choice but to eventually conquer the entire middle east.
 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Got no choice. They can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and they're not going to be talked out of it.
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Seriously, I couldn't give a rat's ass if Iran has nukes. In fact, I think it would be great for the region if more powers, besides Israel and Pakistan, had nukes. Stability through MAD.
 
The only way to be safe from American aggression is to possess nukes... could you blame ANY nation for wanting to protect itself against what we see in Iraq ?
America can't allow Iran to have nukes for two reasons:
1) It tips the M.E. balance of power too far back towards the people who actually live there instead of the US and it's ally Isreal.
2) It's against Israel's national interests.
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Meuge
Got no choice. They can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and they're not going to be talked out of it.
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Seriously, I couldn't give a rat's ass if Iran has nukes. In fact, I think it would be great for the region if more powers, besides Israel and Pakistan, had nukes. Stability through MAD.
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Exactly. However, this would seriously restrict the American ability to manipulate and enforce it's will on the M.E. Which might mean we have to deal with that region and it's peoples as equals and not subjugates who we invade when they no longer play nice with us.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Why, because they might start unjustified wars?

Of course you might be right; once Iraq was invaded, there may be no choice but to eventually conquer the entire middle east.
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PNAC..PNAC...PNAC...
 
EatSpam

Seriously, I couldn't give a rat's ass if Iran has nukes. In fact, I think it would be great for the region if more powers, besides Israel and Pakistan, had nukes. Stability through MAD
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Yeah right! Fanatic suicide nutcases with nukes.

MAD only works if both sides are afraid to die.
 
The Jerusalem Post is not the most accurate source out there.
However, it really comes down to whether the Neo-Cons really believe in their plan and if they believe it will save their movement from being trounced in 2206-2008 elections if it looks like thats likely.
The worst possible scenario would be us invading Iraq shortly before the 2008 elections and instead of domestic issues being the deciding factor the neo-cons use a war to distract us into a game of who is "protecting" America better.
 
I hope not. But Iran is our biggest enemy as of now and they are not being stopped by anyone. Attacking them will be a huge mistake.

You people who want our enemies to get nukes are kidding yourselves. Stop comparing Iran to Russia or any other country. Russia was not run by radical Islamic supermen. It was run by supposedly sane socialist dictators, with the exception of Stalin. Keep in mind that it should be Europe that should be afraid by Iran getting nukes since they're much closer.

But yeah, America is evil and you guys want our enemies to have nukes.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
I hope not. But Iran is our biggest enemy as of now and they are not being stopped by anyone. Attacking them will be a huge mistake.

You people who want our enemies to get nukes are kidding yourselves. Stop comparing Iran to Russia or any other country. Russia was not run by radical Islamic supermen. It was run by supposedly sane socialist dictators, with the exception of Stalin. Keep in mind that it should be Europe that should be afraid by Iran getting nukes since they're much closer.

But yeah, America is evil and you guys want our enemies to have nukes.
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Well, yeah. The people that want Iran to have nukes are nuts. However we can deter Iran from getting nukes. We need to take seriously energy independence and strengthen our economy (balance the budget) so that we can lead an alliance to marginalize Iran and deter other nations from helping them. Unfortunatly that conflicts with the neo-cons plan to alienate the world and destroy the American economy which would leave us with military action as our only recourse.
I do feel it is quite possible that if we invade Iran the reaction would be unlike Iraq in that there is a strong democratic and patriotic base in Iran that would actually do what the Iraqis haven't. Which is actively fight and die to keep Iran free of the mad mullahs and religious extremists. It would be messy and dangerous in Iran for years, and oil production would go down but American troops could be kept to a minimum and arms and logistical support could keep a democratic base in charge.
 
Iran must be stopped.

I'm ashamed of all the liberals here who supposedly stand for human rights, peace and equality.

The leader of Iran has called for the destruction of Israel and has continued Iran's brutal oppression of indigineous minority ethnic groups. This country has to be dealt with. They are far more powerful, at least militarily, than Saddam's Iraq and have never, in their thousands of years of history yielded to reason and tolerance.
 
Yeah, it's not like Iran has any legitimate reason to hate and fear us... it's not like we covertly overthrew their democratically elected leader to install a brutal, corrupt but Western friendly(this is all we really care about) dictator.
Oh wait that's right we did do that.
I wonder how Americans would feel about a country who did the same to us?
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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Yeah, it's not like Iran has any legitimate reason to hate and fear us... it's not like we covertly overthrew their democratically elected leader to install a brutal, corrupt but Western friendly(this is all we really care about) dictator.
Oh wait that's right we did do that.
I wonder how Americans would feel about a country who did the same to us?
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What does any of that have to do with Iran's continually adolescent behaviour in global politics?

They are like a jealous child lashing out in every direction.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
in their thousands of years of history yielded to reason and tolerance.
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And yet we can name numerous wars of aggression by the US.
Care to name one by Iran?
Remember, Saddam invaded Iran with our tacit approval and with our financial, military, and intelligence assistance.

I'm no fan of the lunatics in charge of Iran at all but we have shown FAR more external aggression as a nation than Iran ever has.


 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: Proletariat
in their thousands of years of history yielded to reason and tolerance.
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And yet we can name numerous wars of aggression by the US.
Care to name one by Iran?
Redeemer, Saddam invaded Iran with our tacit approval and with our financial, military, and intelligence assistance.

I'm no fan of the lunatics in charge of Iran at all but we have shown FAR more external aggression as a nation than Iran ever has.
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Care to name one by Persia you mean? They were one of the biggest Imperialists.

They took over the great and ancient civilizations of Iraq, India (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan at the time) and Greece as well as many other nations in the surrounding region.



 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: Proletariat
in their thousands of years of history yielded to reason and tolerance.
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And yet we can name numerous wars of aggression by the US.
Care to name one by Iran?
Redeemer, Saddam invaded Iran with our tacit approval and with our financial, military, and intelligence assistance.

I'm no fan of the lunatics in charge of Iran at all but we have shown FAR more external aggression as a nation than Iran ever has.
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Here he goes again trying to blame all the world's problems on America, but I'm not surprised at all. Tell me about Iran's support of international terror? What about their status as the world's leading terror sponsoring country? Why is Osama's son supposedly hiding in Iran? Why is much of the violence in Iraq is a direct result of the coordination and planning that goes on in Iran? What about the support for terrorists in Iraq by Iran? Al-Sadr?

What about the call by Iran's leader for the complete destruction of Israel? I know you probably include Israel with America as the world's two most evil nations, but I believe even you would think that is a bit extreme. When you have leaders saying stuff like that out in the open, you basically say you do not care for any international rules. Israel is directly threatened, along with the beloved Europe of many here. Your favorite continent, Europe, will be directly threatened by Iran. Do you not care at all?

Yes, America is evil and we should admit defeat to Iran, but seriously, did those things ever cross your mind?
 
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Meuge
Got no choice. They can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and they're not going to be talked out of it.
Click to expand...

Seriously, I couldn't give a rat's ass if Iran has nukes. In fact, I think it would be great for the region if more powers, besides Israel and Pakistan, had nukes. Stability through MAD.
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Exactly. However, this would seriously restrict the American ability to manipulate and enforce it's will on the M.E. Which might mean we have to deal with that region and it's peoples as equals and not subjugates who we invade when they no longer play nice with us.
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:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
What does any of that have to do with Iran's continually adolescent behaviour in global politics?
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What does it have to do with?..... OUR ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, UNETHICAL INTERVENTION AGAINST DEMOCRACY IN IRAN HAS CREATED THIS ENTIRE GENERATION OF ANTI-AMERICAN EXTREMISTS AND GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEIZE POWER AND THE AMMUNITION TO HOLD IT (in terms of things the Iranian govt can point to as us being evil).

We overthrew their democracy and installed a dictator.
We 'accidentally' shot down one of thier commercial airliners in the 80s killing 250 people.

How many Americans would have believed and accepted Iran saying they 'accidentally' shot down one of our planes?

Can you not see how we have created the paranoid extremists in that nation?
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: Proletariat
in their thousands of years of history yielded to reason and tolerance.
Click to expand...

And yet we can name numerous wars of aggression by the US.
Care to name one by Iran?
Redeemer, Saddam invaded Iran with our tacit approval and with our financial, military, and intelligence assistance.

I'm no fan of the lunatics in charge of Iran at all but we have shown FAR more external aggression as a nation than Iran ever has.
Click to expand...
Care to name one by Persia you mean? They were one of the biggest Imperialists.

They took over the great and ancient civilizations of Iraq, India (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan at the time) and Greece as well as many other nations in the surrounding region.
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And the US slaughtered millions of Indians, held millions of slaves et al.... we can visit ancient history all you like.

 
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