Unemnployment insurance increased to 99 weeks. Socialist Amerika :(

[QuantumPion]

At this point it's not unemployment insurance it's middle class welfare where you get to keep your dignity while being a drain on society. I am a liberal and a big proponent of a good safety net so no one is left destitute, but we need to call things by their real names. If you are on unemployment for almost 2 years, you are getting way more coverage than your unemployment insurance premiums paid for, you are on welfare, not unemployment.

If you believe that then I don't think you can technically call yourself a liberal any more

 

[EagleKeeper]

Research how it really works how most people have to work a full year befor they can recieve benefits . and how Construction workers only have to work 6 months to draw full benefits . What is wrong with some of you I don't know . But I do know you well get what you have coming to ya.

Benefits are based on reported work done in the last full calendar quarter

 

[umbrella39]

And in the the rest of the country people are just chillaxin on a 99 week paid vacation.

Getting paid $1200 a month from UE then turning around and paying that to keep your family covered with your Cobra DOES sound rather chill... almost as chill as deciding whether or not to eat or pay the electric bill with what is left over. No money left for rent? Who the hell cares??? Your on vacation, enjoy! Yup, most of the country would prefer this way of life to the shit feeling of knowing you have have a job.

 

[hal2kilo]

It may sound distasteful but think of the fallout if we didn't extend unemployment insurance... Everyone would suffer if those unemployed people just stopped paying their bills to private entities that exist in the economy.

Yep, it's called Keneysian economics.

 

[nobodyknows]

At this point it's not unemployment insurance it's middle class welfare where you get to keep your dignity while being a drain on society. I am a liberal and a big proponent of a good safety net so no one is left destitute, but we need to call things by their real names. If you are on unemployment for almost 2 years, you are getting way more coverage than your unemployment insurance premiums paid for, you are on welfare, not unemployment.

Pretty much. There comes a point where either there are jobs out there at your old wage or your going to have to tighten the belt a few notches and take less..... or maybe even move. Otherwise they should be getting a welfare check instead of an unemployment check.

 

[Patranus]

I really don't understand how anyone can support paying someone NOT to work.

Here is an idea, you want help from the government? Go pick up trash on the freeway. Go do some job for the government that benefits the taxpayer.

 

[chucky2]

No, No, people need training to pick up trash Patranus! People don't understand how to actually pick up trash, there have to be thousands of hours spent training them how to bend down and pick up the trash, and then, another few thousand hours spent training them on how to place it into the bag they carry.

It's super F'ing hard don't you know!?!

Chuck

 

[Budmantom]

Getting paid $1200 a month from UE then turning around and paying that to keep your family covered with your Cobra DOES sound rather chill... almost as chill as deciding whether or not to eat or pay the electric bill with what is left over. No money left for rent? Who the hell cares??? Your on vacation, enjoy! Yup, most of the country would prefer this way of life to the shit feeling of knowing you have have a job.

Cobra? it's called Medicaid and best of all it's free!

I hope that your dumb ass isn't implying that the stimulus didn't work. Summer of recovery... what happens during summer? Vacations!!!

 

[Budmantom]

No, No, people need training to pick up trash Patranus! People don't understand how to actually pick up trash, there have to be thousands of hours spent training them how to bend down and pick up the trash, and then, another few thousand hours spent training them on how to place it into the bag they carry.

It's super F'ing hard don't you know!?!

Chuck

They also need to be part of a UNION.

 

[chucky2]

I was just hoping the total and complete moron who posted that in another thread popped into this one to read that.

I've heard some whoppers for sure here on P&N, but, someone seriously saying that people needed to be trained on how to pick up garbage....I think perhaps that's the biggest one of all.

Chuck

 

[JSt0rm]

I was just hoping the total and complete moron who posted that in another thread popped into this one to read that.

I've heard some whoppers for sure here on P&N, but, someone seriously saying that people needed to be trained on how to pick up garbage....I think perhaps that's the biggest one of all.

Chuck

you probably need to train them so they cant sue you for say bending over instead of using a pole with a spike on the end and hurting their back. :sneaky:

Its the world we live in and I wouldnt have it any other way. BP is about to be anally raped by multiple states and people and it should be that way. Unlimited liability.

 

[chucky2]

you probably need to train them so they cant sue you for say bending over instead of using a pole with a spike on the end and hurting their back. :sneaky:

Its the world we live in and I wouldnt have it any other way. BP is about to be anally raped by multiple states and people and it should be that way. Unlimited liability.

They can either work after signing a waiver, or, go off unemployment. They are free to make that decision.

Chuck

 

[JSt0rm]

They can either work after signing a waiver, or, go off unemployment. They are free to make that decision.

Chuck

But thats not the actual choice so it really doesnt matter. Plus desperate people would say they felt forced to sign the waiver. You see anything can be argued in a court of law.

 

[JSt0rm]

and let me also say that if you are for SMALL government why the hell would you advocate for them to have a large labor force. Thats just askin for it right there.

 

[First]

and let me also say that if you are for SMALL government why the hell would you advocate for them to have a large labor force. Thats just askin for it right there.

It's because chuck is a faux conservative that can't quite see that forcing unemployed people to pick up trash on freeways requires massive gov't spending to coordinate, fund, train, and administer to the 14.7M unemployed persons in the United States currently, and that his policy position can't be reconciled with his "common sense" small gov't principles. Chuck's, erm, ideas, aren't what you would call deep or thorough, he's takes a more right-in-front-of-me approach. Though to be more accurate, they tend to be directly from the anus.

 

[chucky2]

I don't advocate for them to have large labor force. Then again, I don't advocate for them to pay out money to a large force they don't even get labor for. If they're going to do the latter, then they mine as well have the former and get something for it, rather than nothing (which is mostly what we get now).

As for court....you have to get to court to prove that. Just throw it out if that's their complaint. They either can sign the waiver, work, and get paid their 'unemployment', or, don't sign the waiver, not work, and not get paid unemployment.

It's entirely up to them, no one if forcing them to do anything.

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

It's because chuck is a faux conservative that can't quite see that forcing unemployed people to pick up trash on freeways requires massive gov't spending to coordinate, fund, train, and administer to the 14.7M unemployed persons in the United States currently, and that his policy position can't be reconciled with his "common sense" small gov't principles. Chuck's, erm, ideas, aren't what you would call deep or thorough, he's takes a more right-in-front-of-me approach. Though to be more accurate, they tend to be directly from the anus.

Whatever you need to tell yourself there "genius".

Massive Gov spending to do all that? How about we take some of the unemployed, who we're already paying, and have them coordinate it while they're unemployed. Take some more, have them administer it. As for train....well, those jobs that need training, we can have more unemployed do that training. As for funding it...well, we fund it already! It's called - listen up anal boy, this will be amazing for you! - Unemployment! Wow!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know given your intelligence level, bending down to pick up garbage requires training. Scraping paint....more training. Landscaping....training.

I'm not sure what more than a day or two class could possibly be necessary to accomplish those things, if that. I am sure that at least we'd have Unemployed actually doing something for the money they're being given, rather than sitting at home collecting it.

Get trained to pick up garbage...hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaa, OMG, you are F'ing DUMB!!! :awe::awe::awe:

Chuck

 

[Zebo]

you probably need to train them so they cant sue you for say bending over instead of using a pole with a spike on the end and hurting their back. :sneaky:

Its the world we live in and I wouldnt have it any other way. BP is about to be anally raped by multiple states and people and it should be that way. Unlimited liability.

No sir, you don't know Obama sold out the people there too?

One condition for getting aid now is to forgo future claims. So While they have Joe Shrimpman over the proverbial barrel he has no case once he accepts any money to pay his boat payment and feed his family.

Quite limited liability actually.

 

[JSt0rm]

No sir, you don't know Obama sold out the people there too?

One condition for getting aid now is to forgo future claims. So While they have Joe Shrimpman over the proverbial barrel he has no case once he accepts any money to pay his boat payment and feed his family.

Quite limited liability actually.

Thats mr fisherman. Ms. Chef owner of fine dining establishment gets to pwn bp as she can afford to not take any money. Hell if i was a fisherman I would call my lawyer say sue the fuckers and pack my shit and move and get a job doing something else knowing that one day I will have a nice settlement.

 

[Pulsar]

The problem is though, say you have an advanced degree and you made $125K a year before you were laid off.

Now, you can be looking for work for months before even finding one that will interview you.

Because of your education, you're not going to be looking at Walmart jobs.

And this is OK with the system for some reason. I understand the reasons why, but it's still very abuseable.

#1 Swallow your pride. Take any half-way-decent paying job you can get. Interview outside your field.

#2 If you made $125k a year for any length of time you shouldn't have any problem living without work for a year unless you put nothing aside and racked up many large debts from toys.

#3 Your house, toys, and extra stuff should go up for sale within weeks of you losing your job. Period. There are always cheapo apartments where you can live for less than the taxes you'd pay on good-sized house.

There is absolutely no excuse for being without a job for more than 6 months, as long as you suck up your arrogance and interview everywhere you can think of.

I guess these folks don't know what it is to be truly desperate.

 

[dmcowen674]

About six months ago I went to a cattle-call hiring session at a local fast food place.

There were over 600 applicants for 1 part-time, $.15 over minimum-wage maintenance position.

Some of the people there had twenty years experience in industrial machining and maintenance.

That's how bad it is out there.

You don't just 'go get a minimum wage job'.

You're lucky enough to have your number drawn from an employment lottery.

I thought you were one of the ones that said this could never happen.

Anyway what is the answer fpr all these people?

I say what the heck are they still doing here?

Clearly they must find a country suitable for their skill and experience, the jobs have left the U.S. by design.

 

[bfdd]

It's because chuck is a faux conservative that can't quite see that forcing unemployed people to pick up trash on freeways requires massive gov't spending to coordinate, fund, train, and administer to the 14.7M unemployed persons in the United States currently, and that his policy position can't be reconciled with his "common sense" small gov't principles. Chuck's, erm, ideas, aren't what you would call deep or thorough, he's takes a more right-in-front-of-me approach. Though to be more accurate, they tend to be directly from the anus.

It wouldn't be that hard to say "in order to get UE benefits you must sign up with Caltrans and do at least 2 days a week." The bodies are already in place to use people in order to pick up trash.

Substitute Caltrans for whatever it's called in your city/county/state.

 

[bfdd]

About six months ago I went to a cattle-call hiring session at a local fast food place. There were over 600 applicants for 1 part-time, $.15 over minimum-wage maintenance position. Some of the people there had twenty years experience in industrial machining and maintenance. That's how bad it is out there. You don't just 'go get a minimum wage job'. You're lucky enough to have your number drawn from an employment lottery.

These must be some shitty machinists if they can't find a job making more than 15 cents over minimum wage.

 

[First]

Whatever you need to tell yourself there "genius".

Massive Gov spending to do all that? How about we take some of the unemployed, who we're already paying, and have them coordinate it while they're unemployed. Take some more, have them administer it. As for train....well, those jobs that need training, we can have more unemployed do that training. As for funding it...well, we fund it already! It's called - listen up anal boy, this will be amazing for you! - Unemployment! Wow!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know given your intelligence level, bending down to pick up garbage requires training. Scraping paint....more training. Landscaping....training.

I'm not sure what more than a day or two class could possibly be necessary to accomplish those things, if that. I am sure that at least we'd have Unemployed actually doing something for the money they're being given, rather than sitting at home collecting it.

Get trained to pick up garbage...hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaa, OMG, you are F'ing DUMB!!! :awe::awe::awe:

Chuck

lol, unemployed people coordinating and administering hours, location, bussing, and training all out of the goodness of their heart, by themselves! There's sure to be accountability there, cause the funds are there, er, minus all the paperwork and administration and liability issues and....oh right, I keep forgetting you're more a guy that solves problems with arm-chair-window-dressing skipping the whole, you know, realism of executing a nationwide program for all 15M unemployed persons in the U.S. Apparently there are 15M trash pick-up jobs available.

lmao, you faux conservatives truly bring the lulz. Then again, you preached eugenics as a solution to our unemployment problems, so based on your useless posting contributions I'd have to say you're a prime candidate for unemployed "cleansing".

 

[First]

^ Oh, and I'm sure this won't delay the unemployed from looking for jobs and getting training in fields with actual futures. 20 hours a week can't possibly stop someone from accomplishing the exact same goals in the same amount of time as compared to an alternate scenario where they don't have to worry about trash.