Unemnployment insurance increased to 99 weeks. Socialist Amerika :(

[Zorkorist]

Anyway, the Feds shut down the do nothing California bill...

And that was sweet.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

So, California?

Do you want to suck my balls?

-John

 

[DucatiMonster696]

There are no jobs Americans won't do, there are only jobs Americans won't do at the current wage. Advertise for tomato pickers at $25/hour and you'll have a traffic jam. Historically either wages will rise until the position is filled, or the position will go away (no longer economically feasible), or some clever fellow will figure out a way to automate that process and eliminate the need. Now however we've combined outsourcing (with no import tariffs and favorable tax treatments) with importation of millions of cheap illegals. Unless we figure out how to reverse that process, we're boned as a country, bound to end up like Mexico or Brazil or a gazillion other countries with a small wealthy class, a small middle class, and a very large underclass.

Yes and the list of "jobs that Americans wont do" is expanding to service sector jobs, construction jobs, factory and meat packing jobs, so on and so fourth.

 

[Zorkorist]

Obviously, America needs to wake up.

-John

 

[JEDI]

Anyway, the Feds shut down the do nothing California bill...

And that was sweet.

-John

huh?

 

[Budarow]

Anyone who has collected 99 weeks of unemployment payments and still not found a comparable paying job to the 1 you had before...it's time to get a minimum wage job (or whatever else you can fine). Yeah..it sucks, but it has to end sometime.

 

[JEDI]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/20/news/economy/unemployment_benefits/index.htm?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Senate passes Jobless benefits extension

and it's RETROACTIVE to the previous deadline of June 2. D: :thumbsdown:

Sigh!

 

[skyking]

I wish there was a poll within this thread for those of us who are out of work and our trade is down in record numbers.
It sucks, let me tell you right now. I'd much rather be working. I look outside my trade all the time, and am applying for many jobs but the word I hear is supported by other posters, there is a flood of applicants for every job posted.

 

[JSt0rm]

Honestly I would rather direct inject this money into the economy then pump it into the fat cat bankers who then sit on it and dont loan it to anyone.

 

[marincounty]

Those of you who don't like 99 weeks of unemployment insurance, would you be in favor of some federal jobs programs? Like we had during the great depression. Obviously the private sector jobs are not coming back in sufficient numbers to employ the unemployed.
So the rational answer is some federal jobs programs. We have plenty of crumbling infrastructure that needs fixing, and plenty of people to that need jobs. Oh no, that would be Socialism.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Those of you who don't like 99 weeks of unemployment insurance, would you be in favor of some federal jobs programs? Like we had during the great depression. Obviously the private sector jobs are not coming back in sufficient numbers to employ the unemployed.
So the rational answer is some federal jobs programs. We have plenty of crumbling infrastructure that needs fixing, and plenty of people to that need jobs. Oh no, that would be Socialism.

I'm all for a jobs program. I don't think the construction unions would be happy (most of the projects I envision are road work and power infrastructure), but if it were to give us an improvement in society for the cost, why not?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Anyone who has collected 99 weeks of unemployment payments and still not found a comparable paying job to the 1 you had before...it's time to get a minimum wage job (or whatever else you can fine). Yeah..it sucks, but it has to end sometime.

About six months ago I went to a cattle-call hiring session at a local fast food place. There were over 600 applicants for 1 part-time, $.15 over minimum-wage maintenance position. Some of the people there had twenty years experience in industrial machining and maintenance. That's how bad it is out there. You don't just 'go get a minimum wage job'. You're lucky enough to have your number drawn from an employment lottery.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I just don't know what to say here. Seems so many are heartless here and have know compassion for fellow Americans. I will never work again . If you think for one second my SS is a hand out your insane . If you think taking a 4 thousand a month cut in wages is easy street your insane.

If you want to bitch about unemployment benefits. Do some research and find out who benefits from it year after year after year after year. Instead of people who worked year after year after year. Than get extended benefits for a losy 99 weeks .

Research how it really works how most people have to work a full year befor they can recieve benefits . and how Construction workers only have to work 6 months to draw full benefits . What is wrong with some of you I don't know . But I do know you well get what you have coming to ya.

 

[Nemesis 1]

There are some very hard times coming befor we get to were we need be , I think many should reflect on were we are at and were we're going, Forget about religions dogma and the unrest it has created . But varily I say to you hold tight to the truth that is in the words of the living word. Heres a song for those of you who suffer now and know this . There is a time of wonder coming a time of peace and joy . For so long as 1 man hangs onto his trueself your weight is nothing for that man . Be of good heart and cheer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KtScrqtbc&feature=related

 

[umbrella39]

Anyone who has collected 99 weeks of unemployment payments and still not found a comparable paying job to the 1 you had before...it's time to get a minimum wage job (or whatever else you can fine). Yeah..it sucks, but it has to end sometime.

You do realize that in some parts of the country there aren't even minimum wage jobs right now right and that when one opens up there are there are a shit ton of people applying for them?

 

[Budmantom]

You do realize that in some parts of the country there aren't even minimum wage jobs right now right and that when one opens up there are there are a shit ton of people applying for them?

And in the the rest of the country people are just chillaxin on a 99 week paid vacation.

 

[Fear No Evil]

If there are truly no jobs, I still think there should be SOME responsibility for people receiving the benefits FAR beyond what they paid for and FAR beyond what was originally promised to either pay the money back or provide SOME sort of public service in return for it.

 

[Budmantom]

If there are truly no jobs, I still think there should be SOME responsibility for people receiving the benefits FAR beyond what they paid for and FAR beyond what was originally promised to either pay the money back or provide SOME sort of public service in return for it.

If that were the case how would Democrats get elected?

 

[IGBT]

so how's that obama "summer recovery" working for ya?? sucking up to the idea that a fast food night job might be your future for the next five or more years??

 

[BoberFett]

And in the the rest of the country people are just chillaxin on a 99 week paid vacation.

I know I am. This is awesome. I can troll ATP&N and play Xbox all day.

Thanks suckers!

 

[Lanyap]

i know i am. This is awesome. I can troll atp&n and play xbox all day.

Thanks suckers!

lol.

 

[joebloggs10]

If there are truly no jobs, I still think there should be SOME responsibility for people receiving the benefits FAR beyond what they paid for and FAR beyond what was originally promised to either pay the money back or provide SOME sort of public service in return for it.

Ummm....... unemployment is paid for by the employers so technically anyone who gets one penny is receiving benefits beyond "what they paid for".

Also, it's not nearly as clear cut as people would have you believe when it comes to finding another job (or not being able to). For those that say it's impossible, bullshit. I've changed jobs twice in the past 6 months. It's all about having marketable skills. For those that say 99 weeks is too much and people are just taking a vacation, bullshit. In a place like Nevada the labor force is relatively unskilled and uneducated. There aren't many of those jobs around. 1 in 7 people is currently unemployed and looking in Nevada. I wouldn't be surprised if about 1 in 5 people were truly unemployed and willing to work if you add in those who've given up. That's an astoundingly large number.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Ummm....... unemployment is paid for by the employers so technically anyone who gets one penny is receiving benefits beyond "what they paid for".

Also, it's not nearly as clear cut as people would have you believe when it comes to finding another job (or not being able to). For those that say it's impossible, bullshit. I've changed jobs twice in the past 6 months. It's all about having marketable skills. For those that say 99 weeks is too much and people are just taking a vacation, bullshit. In a place like Nevada the labor force is relatively unskilled and uneducated. There aren't many of those jobs around. 1 in 7 people is currently unemployed and looking in Nevada. I wouldn't be surprised if about 1 in 5 people were truly unemployed and willing to work if you add in those who've given up. That's an astoundingly large number.

Clearly unemployment insurance is considered part of the cost of hiring someone. To say that the employer is paying it is rather silly. They are paying it AS PART OF the compensation package of the employee. The employee is paying for it ultimately in lower wages, benefits, etc. But if you want to argue that point, it seems stupid in the ultimate scheme of things.

But as I stated, if there are indeed areas where NO jobs are available for some people - Should there not be some sort of requirement for taxpayers to get SOME sort of compensation from the people receiving 99 weeks of benefits (Nearly 4 times the original number intended)? Why wouldn't we have unemployed skilled laborers helping organizations like habitat for humanity? How about other skilled people being required to volunteer at the VA to help wounded soldiers? Able-bodied younger folks could work at ood banks, could help clean parks, clean garbage off the roads, whatever?

Might piss off the unions in many of said jobs though, and I am sure thats part of the reason Obama will never do it.

 

[flexy]

Why wouldn't we have unemployed skilled laborers helping organizations like habitat for humanity? How about other skilled people being required to volunteer at the VA to help wounded soldiers? Able-bodied younger folks could work at ood banks, could help clean parks, clean garbage off the roads, whatever?

Thats actually how its done in EU. You have to constantly prove that you are actively seeking employment - the notion to "take a vacation" somewhere is silly since you need to stay in your local town and always be "available". So scrap the idea to go on vacation in some other country while you are on UI.

Once a certain time passes you WILL HAVE TO do public service works which is some job *in addition* to your UI - the jobs are paid like €1/hour.

This can be cleaning parks, caring elderly or assist emergency services, stuff like that. If you dont do this you wont get a dime.

 

[QuantumPion]

It's very sad to me...by the definition of the right, any act of charity should be called "socialism". What hogwash!

You keep using this word, charity. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Charity is when one individual voluntarily donates their money to another individual or organization.

When the government taxes the whole population with the threat of imprisonment, and then gives this money to specific political groups in order to buy votes...this is socialism.