Undefeated - The Toughest Bridge in the World

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iamwiz82

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That's a non-standard height.

They should lower the road bed or close the road.

Hope all those people sue the shit out of both the railroad and the city the bridge resides.

Because it's always someone else's fault, not yours, when you don't heed the warnings.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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There's a reason why there are regulations and standard heights.

Yes, because we have trained ourselves not to use common sense, instead allowing someone else to regulate it. By the same logic we should knock down historical centers that are built tightly together that make it difficult for truck to turn, no?

From 11foot8.com

The city of Durham has installed “low clearance” signs on each of the 3 blocks leading up to the trestle (Gregson is a one-way road). There is an “overheight when flashing” sign with flashing lights that are triggered by vehicles that are too tall. Several blocks ahead of the trestle the speed limit is 25 MPH. The folks from the city planning department said that they made an effort to prevent accidents.

The lights are height activated, they only flash when you are too tall. What more should they have to do?
 

silverpig

Lifer
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Yes, because we have trained ourselves not to use common sense, instead allowing someone else to regulate it. By the same logic we should knock down historical centers that are built tightly together that make it difficult for truck to turn, no?

From 11foot8.com



The lights are height activated, they only flash when you are too tall. What more should they have to do?



If it was one truck who didn't read a sign that everyone else caught, then yeah, you might have a point.

But it's multiple different people, repeatedly doing the same thing. That is the sign of a design flaw. You can't change something standard, put a sticker on it, and expect people to adapt.

Imagine someone built a car where the brake was in the middle of the steering wheel where the horn usually is, and the horn was on the floor where the brake normally is. You warn the driver, put a sign on it, and then send someone out to go drive across the country.

Do you really think nothing bad will come of this?
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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Wonder if there's noticeable deflection while a train is passing overhead.
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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If it was one truck who didn't read a sign that everyone else caught, then yeah, you might have a point.

But it's multiple different people, repeatedly doing the same thing. That is the sign of a design flaw. You can't change something standard, put a sticker on it, and expect people to adapt.

Imagine someone built a car where the brake was in the middle of the steering wheel where the horn usually is, and the horn was on the floor where the brake normally is. You warn the driver, put a sign on it, and then send someone out to go drive across the country.

Do you really think nothing bad will come of this?

Statistically, almost no vehicles ever hit the guard beam. There's no need to do anything at all. This happens only a few times a year. The places are well marked, several times, well before the spot.

We know this because nearly all drivers have no problems.

Publicity over the few incidents that do occur may indeed cause the spending of vast sums of money to "do something" though.

It will have no effect on the very few truck drivers stupid enough to drive where their vehicle doesn't fit...
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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If it was one truck who didn't read a sign that everyone else caught, then yeah, you might have a point.

But it's multiple different people, repeatedly doing the same thing. That is the sign of a design flaw. You can't change something standard, put a sticker on it, and expect people to adapt.

Imagine someone built a car where the brake was in the middle of the steering wheel where the horn usually is, and the horn was on the floor where the brake normally is. You warn the driver, put a sign on it, and then send someone out to go drive across the country.

Do you really think nothing bad will come of this?


There is only so much anyone should do to prevent accidents. I think the municipality has already done enough.

this one shows there is a level crossing just north of the underpass... or what I call north.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-9NusQdPYvY
 
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LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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Wonder if there's noticeable deflection while a train is passing overhead.

The guard beam that they are hitting wouldn't be deflecting.

The bridge probably does very slightly, but the clearance is actually greater than what the sign says, anyway.
 

xanis

Lifer
Sep 11, 2005
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If it was one truck who didn't read a sign that everyone else caught, then yeah, you might have a point.

But it's multiple different people, repeatedly doing the same thing. That is the sign of a design flaw. You can't change something standard, put a sticker on it, and expect people to adapt.

Imagine someone built a car where the brake was in the middle of the steering wheel where the horn usually is, and the horn was on the floor where the brake normally is. You warn the driver, put a sign on it, and then send someone out to go drive across the country.

Do you really think nothing bad will come of this?

That bridge has been there for 100 years. Are you saying that the design and size of vehicles hasn't changed in almost a century? Something tells me that they didn't account for the large commercial vehicles of today when they built it. The municipality has definitely done enough to prevent accidents in my opinion. If you ignore things like large, flashing yellow lights and multiple yellow caution signs, you only have your own retarded self to blame. Also, if you're so oblivious that you don't see any of these things, you shouldn't be driving.
 

dabuddha

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Apr 10, 2000
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So a sensor that flashes bigass yellow lights to the driver if their truck is too tall isn't enough? lmao

To be fair, whenever I'm driving around there are tons of lights everywhere flashing. After awhile, a majority of people kind of tune it out (especially yellow lights).
 

dabuddha

Lifer
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That bridge has been there for 100 years. Are you saying that the design and size of vehicles hasn't changed in almost a century? Something tells me that they didn't account for the large commercial vehicles of today when they built it. The municipality has definitely done enough to prevent accidents in my opinion. If you ignore things like large, flashing yellow lights and multiple yellow caution signs, you only have your own retarded self to blame. Also, if you're so oblivious that you don't see any of these things, you shouldn't be driving.


That's a good point, I didn't think of it that way. Well back to that bridge being one tough bad ass!
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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I absolutely love the trucks with the 5th wheel that slow down like "wow this bridge looks low, am I going to clear?". Then as pieces of their trailer come off, they just keep going.
 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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That's a non-standard height.

They should lower the road bed or close the road.

Hope all those people sue the shit out of both the railroad and the city the bridge resides.

Doesn't matter. It's the driver's responsibility to understand the limitations of the vehicle he/she/it is driving.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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Statistically, almost no vehicles ever hit the guard beam. There's no need to do anything at all. This happens only a few times a year. The places are well marked, several times, well before the spot.

We know this because nearly all drivers have no problems.

Publicity over the few incidents that do occur may indeed cause the spending of vast sums of money to "do something" though.

It will have no effect on the very few truck drivers stupid enough to drive where their vehicle doesn't fit...

Look at all the other train overpass bridges. They get hit... once every 100 years? This thing gets hit 1200 times more than that.
 

CraigRT

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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I lol'd quite a bit in that video.
Especially where the Ryder truck appears to drive away like its a hit and run.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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That bridge has been there for 100 years. Are you saying that the design and size of vehicles hasn't changed in almost a century? Something tells me that they didn't account for the large commercial vehicles of today when they built it. The municipality has definitely done enough to prevent accidents in my opinion. If you ignore things like large, flashing yellow lights and multiple yellow caution signs, you only have your own retarded self to blame. Also, if you're so oblivious that you don't see any of these things, you shouldn't be driving.

Darwin is a strong here, the vid is a blast to watch, thanks OP..
 
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JulesMaximus

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I think they purposely built it just slightly under the stated clearance for the lols. :ninja::biggrin: That are there are a lot more stupid drivers than I thought.

Notice that most of the trucks are rentals and we all know RV drivers are fucking clueless anyway.
 

Merad

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If it was one truck who didn't read a sign that everyone else caught, then yeah, you might have a point.

But it's multiple different people, repeatedly doing the same thing. That is the sign of a design flaw. You can't change something standard, put a sticker on it, and expect people to adapt.

Imagine someone built a car where the brake was in the middle of the steering wheel where the horn usually is, and the horn was on the floor where the brake normally is. You warn the driver, put a sign on it, and then send someone out to go drive across the country.

Do you really think nothing bad will come of this?

The math is pretty simple. No one is ever hurt there (supposedly one guy somehow got a broken leg in the 90s, but that's all that they know of). All the damage is being done to the trucks of the idiot drivers. The railroad just replaces the I-beam every few decades, probably at a cost of a few thousand dollars.

OTOH digging the road out to meet the normal height would probably require the the road to be closed for a month or more and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 

randomrogue

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Jan 15, 2011
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This reminds me an awful lot of a sharp curve where they banked the road wrong and cars were sliding off the road. They put signs up warning drivers but eventually had to fix the stupid road.

Clearly with this many accidents happening they should re engineer the bridge or road. That's just asinine. Alternatively just don't allow trucks there.

If you read the guy's page he has two cameras up and films these accidents all the time. An accident should not be predictable like this. The city basically knows that trucks are going to slam into this beam on a regular basis and their solution is a few blinking lights that hundreds of people are not noticing.
 

DCal430

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Feb 12, 2011
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There is even sensor that warns drivers who are too tall. Why would they ignore the flashing warning lights telling them to stop because they are too tall.