UNCONFIRMED!! New top-end nVidia card in November !!

[yacoub]

It's pathetic that the card we wanted 6-9 months ago (a good mid-range card at a decent price) STILL hasn't come out and is at best rumored to arrive next month.
That means we'll be offered something that would have been appealing 6-9 months ago. Guess what, my demands/expectations have risen in the meantime. Jokers won't be getting my money until they get back to releasing exciting, properly-priced, well-featured products.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: yacoub
It's pathetic that the card we wanted 6-9 months ago (a good mid-range card at a decent price) STILL hasn't come out and is at best rumored to arrive next month.
That means we'll be offered something that would have been appealing 6-9 months ago. Guess what, my demands/expectations have risen in the meantime. Jokers won't be getting my money until they get back to releasing exciting, properly-priced, well-featured products.

i dunno ... i got mine at a fair price and the GTS640 has also been on sale ... it seems you are complaining mostly about a high "price" - ~$400 - for mid-range performance

Now at this point in time the 2900pro and the 320GTS are those "good mid-range card at a decent price" - i.e ~ $250 - but if you keep on waiting for that elusive hypothetical card, it appears to me you are only 'hurting yourself' if you want to run the latest games with an older GPU by refusing to upgrade.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: yacoub
It's pathetic that the card we wanted 6-9 months ago (a good mid-range card at a decent price) STILL hasn't come out and is at best rumored to arrive next month.
That means we'll be offered something that would have been appealing 6-9 months ago. Guess what, my demands/expectations have risen in the meantime. Jokers won't be getting my money until they get back to releasing exciting, properly-priced, well-featured products.

One of the problems we all have now is because ATI havent raised the bar Nvidia are free to basically take the piss out of its customers. ATI really need to be king with there next highend or we are only going to get a slight speed increase with the next Nvidia cards because they wuill carry on using the same tech but with slightly higher clock speeds and hold back on any new tricks they have until they need to.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Originally posted by: yacoub
It's pathetic that the card we wanted 6-9 months ago (a good mid-range card at a decent price) STILL hasn't come out and is at best rumored to arrive next month.
That means we'll be offered something that would have been appealing 6-9 months ago. Guess what, my demands/expectations have risen in the meantime. Jokers won't be getting my money until they get back to releasing exciting, properly-priced, well-featured products.

One of the problems we all have now is because ATI havent raised the bar Nvidia are free to basically take the piss out of its customers. ATI really need to be king with there next highend or we are only going to get a slight speed increase with the next Nvidia cards because they wuill carry on using the same tech but with slightly higher clock speeds and hold back on any new tricks they have until they need to.

but we'll get a great mid-range 😛
-buy TWO

😀

sorry ... but i am beginning to believe that IS what they want us to do

 

[Demoth]

but if you keep on waiting for that elusive hypothetical card, it appears to me you are only 'hurting yourself' if you want to run the latest games with an older GPU by refusing to upgrade.
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I think you have 2 types of low price buyers.

You have the majority of gamers who don't know much about vid cards. They want to stay under $100 and will tend to buy or be steered by a Best Buy employee towards a low quality card with a name very similar to the high quality cards, packed in a flashy box that proudly displays the extravegant amount of unused memory stuck on the card. Untruthful online reviews also steer people to these cards- case in point-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814125065


http://www.newegg.com/Product/...-NX85T512HP+Video+Card

When in actuality, the card is basically equivalent to a lower end 6XXX series from years back.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html

The other type are those who either can't afford to or refuse to spend more then $150 on any single component in their system but do enough research to find something powerful and cheap. Bide your time and keep an eye on price watch and you'll eventually find a great deal.

This segment is growing as more gamers are painfully finding out that more RAM plus a high model number dosen't equal FPS. As more gamers become educated, hopefully we will see less emphasis in the low end on misleadingly packaged crap and and more work towards reasonably fast cards, maybe 40% slower then the high end but with a much-much lower power draw. Right now your looking at close to a 90% performance difference between a 85XX and a 88XX, basically a non-useable card at the low end to overkill for many at the high end. Granted, the 8600GT is a decent card for $90 and will last many gamers a good amount of time, but your still talking about the performance equivalent to a top end 6XXX series card.

People who don't want to shell out $300 for a vid card are not hurting themselves much. DX10 will not be much more then a few tricks for another year and nothing out this gen or next will be very good for fully ground up coded DX10 games. Someone that picks up a 7950GT for $130 (Tiger direct had one recently for this price with a rebate) would be basically be gaming in the same league as the 8800GTS (refer to chart above).

If you do some footwork, a sub $150 card can be found that can be used comfortably for two years. It gets even better for hardcore overclockers...

 

[apoppin]

If you do some footwork, a sub $150 card can be found that can be used comfortably for two years. It gets even better for hardcore overclockers...

Not for DX10 😛

... entry level is $250

 

[bryanW1995]

"Someone that picks up a 7950GT for $130 (Tiger direct had one recently for this price with a rebate) would be basically be gaming in the same league as the 8800GTS (refer to chart above). "

Uh, demoth, where in toms video charts did you read that a 7950 gt is equivalent to an 8800gts (320mb I assume)? I don't know what you're smokin', but put it back...before you start thinking that skt 939 will trounce penryn...

I think that you're confusing the 7950 gt with the 7950 gx2. BIG difference.

 

[Demoth]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
"Someone that picks up a 7950GT for $130 (Tiger direct had one recently for this price with a rebate) would be basically be gaming in the same league as the 8800GTS (refer to chart above). "

Uh, demoth, where in toms video charts did you read that a 7950 gt is equivalent to an 8800gts (320mb I assume)? I don't know what you're smokin', but put it back...before you start thinking that skt 939 will trounce penryn...

I think that you're confusing the 7950 gt with the 7950 gx2. BIG difference.

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70 FPS versus 100 FPS is in the same league as far as I am concerned, especially when your talking about 17 FPS for the 8500GT. In higher end games with higher settings, it's more like 40 vs 50 FPS which is essentially the same while the low end 8XXX series would be unuseable.

Keep in mind, I stated 'same league', not equivalent. Say, the 7950 is the Miami Dolphins and the 8800 GTS 320 is the New England Patriots- same league, but not equivalent. The 8500GT would be your local elementary school's touch football league.

 

[bryanW1995]

what type of card do you use right now? what type of monitor do you have? You're right that the difference between 70 and 100 fps is negligible. What about the diff between 25 and 45 fps? How much MORE eye candy can you use with an 8800gts than a 7950gt? You know what, my 1950xt is basically like an 8800 ultra in sli, I'll just wait until 2009 to upgrade...