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TerryMathews

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I do believe there will also be an evidentiary (immunity) hearing before that date.

http://www.criminaldefenseattorneyt...mesticViolenceBattery/StandYourGroundLaw.aspx







No immunity hearing. The judge looking at the evidence is convinced there is enough evidence to proceed to trial, therefore the immunity hearing is not happening.

Read. Its right there. The defendant has to assert his right to it. As far as i know he hasn't yet.
 

Tom

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The Orlando Sentinel articale says O'Mara tweeted he expects the SYG hearing to take place in April or May.
 

Londo_Jowo

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No immunity hearing. The judge looking at the evidence is convinced there is enough evidence to proceed to trial, therefore the immunity hearing is not happening.

It's the law and GZ can't be refused his right to an evidentiary (immunity) hearing.

After the hearing, Zimmerman's defense tweeted he will likely seek a hearing under the controversial self-defense law commonly known as “stand your ground” in the months leading up to trial.
The "self-defense immunity hearing [is] likely to be requested for April or May," the tweet said.
 

airdata

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The defense has the right to an immunity hearing.

You mean they have the right to be told that muttering expletives at somebody and chasing after them doesn't fall under standing your ground?

Can't stand and chase, brah.
 

Geosurface

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Fucking punks.

Nah man, it wasn't "punks" it was totally "coons!" Fucking coons! That's what the huge, 250lb black-hating racist white man said prior to gunning down that 12 year old adorable child, from a distance of 10 feet, execution style as Trayvon begged for his life and cried.

Trayvon's last words? "Please sir, I have to get these Skittles and tea home to my little brother! Please let me live sir, please."

But, heartless and depraved... the nasty and evil Zimmerman merely laughed maniacally and said "Time's up my excellent compatriot! Enjoy your needless, unprovoked, homicidal death!" BOOM! and then the gun went off.

So don't give me this "punks" crap I know what I heard.

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lotus503

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Nah man, it wasn't "punks" it was totally "coons!" Fucking coons! That's what the huge, 250lb black-hating racist white man said prior to gunning down that 12 year old adorable child, from a distance of 10 feet, execution style as Trayvon begged for his life and cried.

Trayvon's last words? "Please sir, I have to get these Skittles and tea home to my little brother! Please let me live sir, please."

But, heartless and depraved... the nasty and evil Zimmerman merely laughed maniacally and said "Time's up my excellent compatriot! Enjoy your needless, unprovoked, homicidal death!" BOOM! and then the gun went off.

So don't give me this "punks" crap I know what I heard.

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Thanks for demonstrating exactly what is wrong with you.
 

JKing106

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That's right, Dirty Harry wanna-be motherfuckers. Your worst nightmare is about to happen. Captain Courage is going on trial, and more attention is being brought to idiotic "Shoot Anyone Who Frightens Me" laws. Looks like internet tough guys afraid of losing their "right" to carry a 9 MM security blanket everywhere have something to be afraid of. Not a big deal, though, you're afraid of everything and everyone already.
 

Geosurface

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Thanks for demonstrating exactly what is wrong with you.

Thanks for demonstrating what's wrong with you, namely:

1.) Lack of sense of humor
2.) Inability to appreciate just how absurdly far off the narrative early on was
3.) No appreciation for the value of mockery
4.) Overly emotional and overly sensitive
5.) Taking things personally when they don't come within 10 light years of being personal to you
6.) Needing a tissue

But please, pray tell, what is it you feel I demonstrated as being wrong with me with that post? (Hint, it's nothing that isn't also wrong with the creators of South Park, Family Guy, The Onion, SomethingAwful, and numerous other widely viewed and loved properties)
 

airdata

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Nah man, it wasn't "punks" it was totally "coons!" Fucking coons! That's what the huge, 250lb black-hating racist white man said prior to gunning down that 12 year old adorable child, from a distance of 10 feet, execution style as Trayvon begged for his life and cried.

Trayvon's last words? "Please sir, I have to get these Skittles and tea home to my little brother! Please let me live sir, please."

But, heartless and depraved... the nasty and evil Zimmerman merely laughed maniacally and said "Time's up my excellent compatriot! Enjoy your needless, unprovoked, homicidal death!" BOOM! and then the gun went off.

So don't give me this "punks" crap I know what I heard.

jnAYX.jpg

ARQJ6.gif



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corwin

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So you DO have a sense of humor after all:D:D
That's right, Dirty Harry wanna-be motherfuckers. Your worst nightmare is about to happen. Captain Courage is going on trial, and more attention is being brought to idiotic "Shoot Anyone Who Frightens Me" laws. Looks like internet tough guys afraid of losing their "right" to carry a 9 MM security blanket everywhere have something to be afraid of. Not a big deal, though, you're afraid of everything and everyone already.
And you're a brainless idiot as usual...carry on
 

spidey07

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You mean they have the right to be told that muttering expletives at somebody and chasing after them doesn't fall under standing your ground?

Can't stand and chase, brah.

Actually, as has been pointed out even if zimmerman was initial aggressor, and there is no evidence that says he was, he can still shoot in self defense when on back after being beaten with attacker still on top of him and unable to retreat.
 

spidey07

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Also, zimmerman's behavior do not highlight anything about stand your ground laws.

The shooting falls under classic self defense, no SYG needed nor does it apply.

Anybody who tries to make this about SYG is clearly ignorant, and likely willfully so.
 

lotus503

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Thanks for demonstrating what's wrong with you, namely:

1.) Lack of sense of humor - I have a sense of humor, Yours is sick and distasteful
2.) Inability to appreciate just how absurdly far off the narrative early on was - It was far off because of the Police call recordings of Zimmerman
3.) No appreciation for the value of mockery - Distasteful mockery is still distasteful
4.) Overly emotional and overly sensitive - Why because I call a creep a creep?
5.) Taking things personally when they don't come within 10 light years of being personal to you - Its not personal I just think your brand of humor and exploiting the tragedy is sick and about as valuable as initial media reports.
6.) Needing a tissue - I don't need a tissue for telling you what I think about your post, you may need one to wipe the man juice off your monitor when searching these things out to post.

But please, pray tell, what is it you feel I demonstrated as being wrong with me with that post? (Hint, it's nothing that isn't also wrong with the creators of South Park, Family Guy, The Onion, SomethingAwful, and numerous other widely viewed and loved properties)

You do not come across like south park , the onion or any of the things listed. As much as you want to compare yourself to sociatial parody, what you do is spend time creating fantasy based on your outrage, use it as a tool to detract from other posters.

Sort of like Jking does but you use pictures.
 

soundforbjt

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Also, zimmerman's behavior do not highlight anything about stand your ground laws.

The shooting falls under classic self defense, no SYG needed nor does it apply.

Anybody who tries to make this about SYG is clearly ignorant, and likely willfully so.

Thank you, you just proved the SYG immunity hearing shouldn't happen.

And you just called MoM "clearly ignorant, and likely willfully so." ;)
 

spidey07

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Thank you, you just proved the SYG immunity hearing shouldn't happen.

And you just called MoM "clearly ignorant, and likely willfully so." ;)

Immunity hearing is part of self defense. SYG just adds to self defense laws that one does not have the duty to retreat. Even MoM said SYG doesn't apply here as it's simple self defense.
 

Geosurface

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Seth MacFarlane is a hack.

I was not comparing quality of examples to me, I'm not that egotistical. I was merely pointing out that crude, mean-spirited and deliberately offensive humor is widespread and mainstream and appreciated or at least smirked at by most people with a functional set of testes.
 

JKing106

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You do not come across like south park , the onion or any of the things listed. As much as you want to compare yourself to sociatial parody, what you do is spend time creating fantasy based on your outrage, use it as a tool to detract from other posters.

Sort of like Jking does but you use pictures.

The difference I'm not a paid shill pussy who hides behind racist, dog whistle rhetoric and code phrases and bullshit "I used to be a liberal, but..." excuses in a transparent attempt to feign objectivity. Most coward racists do the same thing when not posting on blatantly partisan racist sites they get bored of. Though this forum isn't far from that.
 

lotus503

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Seth MacFarlane is a hack.

I was not comparing quality of examples to me, I'm not that egotistical. I was merely pointing out that crude, mean-spirited and deliberately offensive humor is widespread and mainstream and appreciated or at least smirked at by most people with a functional set of testes.


Ok good we are in agreement its "crude, mean-spirited and deliberately offensive humor"

I think exploiting the case and the death of Martin to get smirks is distasteful. The manner in which you do it is twisted.

Like I said your like Jking with pictures.
 

airdata

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Actually, as has been pointed out even if zimmerman was initial aggressor, and there is no evidence that says he was, he can still shoot in self defense when on back after being beaten with attacker still on top of him and unable to retreat.

Standing your ground implies that somebody is attacking you. You can't stand your ground if you chase after somebody after referring to them as fucking punks and saying these assholes always get away when he had not witnessed any illegal activity at all.

Zimmerman was basically in his own little world. I guess he could plead insanity because he was chasing an imaginary criminal and then when he snapped out of his trance he'd killed a 17 year old kid.
 

lotus503

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The difference I'm not a paid shill pussy who hides behind racist, dog whistle rhetoric and code phrases and bullshit "I used to be a liberal, but..." excuses in a transparent attempt to feign objectivity. Most coward racists do the same thing when not posting on blatantly partisan racist sites they get bored of. Though this forum isn't far from that.



Both of you use over the top, offensive exaggerations to make a point.
Geo uses pictures other than that you guys are very similar in the above regard.

Both of you do it I suspect because of sheer outrage that anyone could dare not buy into your meme.
 

spidey07

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Standing your ground implies that somebody is attacking you. You can't stand your ground if you chase after somebody after referring to them as fucking punks and saying these assholes always get away when he had not witnessed any illegal activity at all.

Zimmerman was basically in his own little world. I guess he could plead insanity because he was chasing an imaginary criminal and then when he snapped out of his trance he'd killed a 17 year old kid.

Even if zimmerman is initial aggressor, he can lawfully shoot in self defense when on back, after being beaten and unable to retreat.

That is the law, that is self defense laws, not SYG. One is not forced to sit there and be beaten to death without the ability to defend yourself.