Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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it's extremely clear that Trayvon was under the influence of something in the 7-11 video, the bobbing and weaving, the inability to stand up straight, taking way too long for a simple transaction, getting lost trying to find the exit.

The only reason anyone denies it is that they were already invested in a certain interpretation of this case before that video was released, and to save face had to deny the obvious.

Ask any young black teen about it.

Swag.

 

[nobodyknows]

True, but he does show all the side effects related to what he's taking. And prescription drugs are more abused than illegal ones.

WTF are u talking bout!!

Any ILLEGAL drug use is abuse, all of it. Now compare that to any % you can document of the number of people who abuse prescription drugs. You're talking out of your ass again.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

There's actually no evidence in that video showing that he was under the influence of anything.

I'm sure if you took other clips from different people in the 7-11 they'd exhibit equal or more strange behavior than you claim Trayvon shows on the video.

That one video is good for laughs though... the one where some idiot inserted text like " ready to fight! " LOL... so... so... so simple minded.

I love how high you raise the bar for anything about trayvon to be 'evidence'. I don't care if it holds up as evidence, this isn't a courtroom; it's a public forum.

That video is clear as day... hoodie in deep cover, specifically attempting to conceal ID, unable to stand without swaying, getting lost trying to leave a gas station.. Distort it all you want, but anyone with a semblance of logic can see that he's obviously on something... IMHO it's not weed.. Maybe that synthetic stuff or bath salts I dunno, but no sober or even 'slightly high' person has that overall demeanor.

I very much doubt that most of the customers act like that. Look at the gas station attendants, you think they do that for every black kid that walks in? No. IE, this is not about him being black, it's about him being a little thug punk who is clearly up to no good and looking for trouble.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Reading some of these posts, I gather any black person to you would be under the influence of something illegal.

What are you basing this off of?

This shit you and airdata/dari pull about calling people racists who clearly are not is far worse for race relations that actual outright racists.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Some people get a kick out of causing racial troubles so they can then point a finger and say I told you so.

Those that do that are ever bit as bad as those that get suckered into the game.

 

[nobodyknows]

I think the reverse racism you see from many minorities is actually some kind of defense mechanism they use to blow off steam. They can't handle the reality that they too are racist.

 

[airdata]

WTF are u talking bout!!

Any ILLEGAL drug use is abuse, all of it. Now compare that to any % you can document of the number of people who abuse prescription drugs. You're talking out of your ass again.

Actually I don't think the term drug abuse refers to illicit drugs. You'd say drug use.

Abuse would be using drugs in a way not intended.

GZ was prescribed anti anxiety meds and adderrall which are both widely abused prescription drugs that people often doctor shop to obtain.

 

[lotus503]

Damn, umbrella39 has turned into a Dr. Phil shill.

It just goes to show that even a bottom feeder like umbrella39 can drop to new lows.

Coming from the guy who just got a thread locked and infraction yesterday..

 

[EagleKeeper]

Actually I don't think the term drug abuse refers to illicit drugs. You'd say drug use.

Abuse would be using drugs in a way not intended.

GZ was prescribed anti anxiety meds and adderrall which are both widely abused prescription drugs that people often doctor shop to obtain.

Is there any indication that he was abusing the prescribed drugs?

 

[Geosurface]

well if GZ was prescribed drugs that a lot of people abuse, let's just go ahead and assume he was abusing them!

This despite his very calm, normal speaking voice on the NEN call. He did not sound like someone fucked up on anything, at all. Usually people who are don't seek out direct contact with police, either.

Even his "these assholes" and "fucking punks" comments were spoken in a very calm, matter of fact way. Any person who has ever tried to frame those as evidence of murderous intent, let me be very clear about this, is a HUGE dumbass. Like, really really huge. They sound like nothing other than expressions of mild frustration and hamfisted attempts at bonding with the call center worker and by extension law enforcement.

I don't think every black person looks like they're high on something. Know which ones don't look like that? The ones who aren't. The ones who stand up straight, walk properly, and get in and out of the 7-11 like a normal person. Lingering around the candy bar aisle taking a long time to figure out what you want is one thing, lots of people do that, that's not what Trayvon did. He couldn't stand up straight and reach into his pocket at the same time, at the register.

He got lost trying to leave the store. The guy looked like he was tripping on something. Whether that be purple drank, weed, bath salts, something else, some combination... I don't know. Whatever it was probably played a part in why he attacked GZ. That's a shame, because maybe it indicates he wouldn't have done that if he was completely sober. Just another reason not to do stupid shit like drugs, I guess.

 

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Is there any indication that he was abusing the prescribed drugs?

Could explain his poor decision making and irrational behavior.

Or he could just be a fucking lunatic. That would explain his poor decision making and irrational behavior as well.


Look, it's a simple fact. Just like ' The sky is blue. " Adderall and anti anxiety meds just as a matter of fact are up at the top of the most widely abused prescription drugs. One can only wonder if GZ was abusing the drugs he was prescribed or simply using as intended to be less crazy on a day to day basis than he'd be without them. Who knows.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Could explain his poor decision making and irrational behavior.

Or he could just be a fucking lunatic. That would explain his poor decision making and irrational behavior as well.


Look, it's a simple fact. Just like ' The sky is blue. " Adderall and anti anxiety meds just as a matter of fact are up at the top of the most widely abused prescription drugs. One can only wonder if GZ was abusing the drugs he was prescribed or simply using as intended to be less crazy on a day to day basis than he'd be without them. Who knows.

In other words you have no clue how GZ was affected by the prescription drugs or if he was abusing them. Just more baseless assumptions.


Obviously he didn't show any signs of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs as the SPD didn't request he take a Breathalyzer or drug screening test.

 

[soundforbjt]

well if GZ was prescribed drugs that a lot of people abuse, let's just go ahead and assume he was abusing them!

This despite his very calm, normal speaking voice on the NEN call. He did not sound like someone fucked up on anything, at all. Usually people who are don't seek out direct contact with police, either.

Even his "these assholes" and "fucking punks" comments were spoken in a very calm, matter of fact way. Any person who has ever tried to frame those as evidence of murderous intent, let me be very clear about this, is a HUGE dumbass. Like, really really huge. They sound like nothing other than expressions of mild frustration and hamfisted attempts at bonding with the call center worker and by extension law enforcement.

I don't think every black person looks like they're high on something. Know which ones don't look like that? The ones who aren't. The ones who stand up straight, walk properly, and get in and out of the 7-11 like a normal person. Lingering around the candy bar aisle taking a long time to figure out what you want is one thing, lots of people do that, that's not what Trayvon did. He couldn't stand up straight and reach into his pocket at the same time, at the register.

He got lost trying to leave the store. The guy looked like he was tripping on something. Whether that be purple drank, weed, bath salts, something else, some combination... I don't know. Whatever it was probably played a part in why he attacked GZ. That's a shame, because maybe it indicates he wouldn't have done that if he was completely sober. Just another reason not to do stupid shit like drugs, I guess.

What IF the full tox test comes back and shows you're wrong? Then what will your excuse be?

And to the others, I never said Z was abusing the drugs...just look up the possible side effects ( mood swings, etc). Or maybe he was out of meds that night and it affected his behavior...just speculating, like all of you do with Trayvon.

 

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In other words you have no clue how GZ was affected by the prescription drugs or if he was abusing them. Just more baseless assumptions.


Obviously he didn't show any signs of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs as the SPD didn't request he take a Breathalyzer or drug screening test.

No, you guys don't get it.

It's simply something to consider w\ the case.

Fact A) GZ was prescribed drugs A&B
FACT B) Drugs A&B are widely abused presription drugs

A+B would lead a person with sound mind to deduce that it's possible GZ was abusing the drugs.

No, we don't know if he was or not and I'm not claiming to know he was.
I'm simply pointing out the fact that he's conveniently prescribed some widely abused substances. He very well could have been abusing said substances and that could explain his erratic behavior. Or he could just be a fucking psycho.

 

[Ns1]

In other words you have no clue how GZ was affected by the prescription drugs or if he was abusing them. Just more baseless assumptions.

this

 

[spidey07]

Or, as all evidence proves, he was acting in lawful self defense and justifiably killed the thug (proven thug by evidence and video).

 

[classy]

Or, as all evidence proves, he was acting in lawful self defense and justifiably killed the thug (proven thug by evidence and video).

Yea and Drew Peterson's 4th wife ran off with another man................

Got it

 

[airdata]

I find it hilarious that all you blow hards are hanging onto that 7-11 video as if it shows anything pertinent to the case.

Maybe if you had some audio to go along w\ it that had Trayvon berating the clerk or something.. but you don't. It's just a silent surveillance tape that simply doesn't show anything at all that is concrete.

 

[classy]

I find it hilarious that all you blow hards are hanging onto that 7-11 video as if it shows anything pertinent to the case.

Maybe if you had some audio to go along w\ it that had Trayvon berating the clerk or something.. but you don't. It's just a silent surveillance tape that simply doesn't show anything at all that is concrete.

They interviewed the clerk as well. He said that Trayvon acted ordinary like anyone else.

 

[soundforbjt]

I find it hilarious that all you blow hards are hanging onto that 7-11 video as if it shows anything pertinent to the case.

Maybe if you had some audio to go along w\ it that had Trayvon berating the clerk or something.. but you don't. It's just a silent surveillance tape that simply doesn't show anything at all that is concrete.

Sure it does...TM was totally FUed on drugs, couldn't even stand up straight, etc., yet minutes later was able to plan, hide, and attack a sober, armed, former bouncer, who out-weighed him by 50lbs.

Totally believable...if you're biased as hell and never stop to think about what your posting.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

No, you guys don't get it.

It's simply something to consider w\ the case.

Fact A) GZ was prescribed drugs A&B
FACT B) Drugs A&B are widely abused presription drugs

A+B would lead a person with sound mind to deduce that it's possible GZ was abusing the drugs.

No, we don't know if he was or not and I'm not claiming to know he was.
I'm simply pointing out the fact that he's conveniently prescribed some widely abused substances. He very well could have been abusing said substances and that could explain his erratic behavior. Or he could just be a fucking psycho.

Fact A) I own a gun
Fact B) guns are the most common method to murder people

A+B would lead a person with a sound mind to deduce that it's possible that I have murdered someone with a gun.

What a stupid logical fallacy. If you can't figure out why that is a logical fallacy then you need to turn off your computer now and return it to Best Buy.

 

[classy]

Sure it does...TM was totally FUed on drugs, couldn't even stand up straight, etc., yet minutes later was able to plan, hide, and attack a sober, armed, former bouncer, who out-weighed him by 50lbs.

Totally believable...if you're biased as hell.

LOL

That was nicely summed up.

 

[SheHateMe]

Trayvon was so high in that store that he walked in, grabbed a pack of Skittles, went to the refigerated section, grabbed an Ice Tea and paid for it at the register.


Damn son, Trayvon be thuggin like a mothafucka'. You see his head bobbin and weavin'? GZ was like "Damn that fool be up to no good!". He had to ice that fool.

 

[CZroe]

You guys are STILL talking about this? Jesus.

 

[SheHateMe]

You guys are STILL talking about this? Jesus.

Yes, and now you are too. Way to go.