Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

[TerryMathews]

Somewhat true. the amount found could indicate it being as much as two or more weeks prior to that night. Now Georgie on the other hand wasn't tested and probably was on drugs that night.

Prescription != illegal illicit drugs. Nice try though.

We've been down this road. You're not qualified to evaluate his prescription drug interactions.

 

[WHAMPOM]

It was found in his blood, he smoked recently. Full results haven't been released yet...wonder why that is?

Coronor's report with TM's minuscule drug results was released months ago, just what report are you talking about? Or just out of your ass?

 

[corwin]

Damn, I've been out for a month and this shit is still on page one? Can anyone do me a favor and give me a quick recap of what I've missed? From reading the last couple pages it seems Lester is gone but otherwise the same useless arguing..does that about sum it up?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Damn, I've been out for a month and this shit is still on page one? Can anyone do me a favor and give me a quick recap of what I've missed? From reading the last couple pages it seems Lester is gone but otherwise the same useless arguing..does that about sum it up?

Basically.... Nothing regarding that night has come out as incriminating towards zimmerman.

Every single solitary thing involved in this further proves self-defense, or at least doesn't show any legal wrongdoing by zimmerman.

We now have the pro-trayvon people crying for the thread to be locked since there isn't anything worth discussing.

 

[soundforbjt]

Prescription != illegal illicit drugs. Nice try though.

We've been down this road. You're not qualified to evaluate his prescription drug interactions.

True, but he does show all the side effects related to what he's taking. And prescription drugs are more abused than illegal ones.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

True, but he does show all the side effects related to what he's taking. And prescription drugs are more abused than illegal ones.

ROFL.... go look at the gas station video. Trayvon was very clearly high on something. He can't stand up straight, gets lost leaving the gas station, has to lean on counters etc for support.

There's a good reason why the store workers were keeping a close eye on him.. For the same reasons zimmerman (NW captain) was watching him.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

True, but he does show all the side effects related to what he's taking. And prescription drugs are more abused than illegal ones.

Based on who's opinion? Yours?

If he was showing the side effects why wasn't he tested? Surely the police would have had all the probable cause required to force him to submit to a drug screen.

 

[soundforbjt]

ROFL.... go look at the gas station video. Trayvon was very clearly high on something. He can't stand up straight, gets lost leaving the gas station, has to lean on counters etc for support.

There's a good reason why the store workers were keeping a close eye on him.. For the same reasons zimmerman (NW captain) was watching him.

More BS and speculation...the Coroners report does not agree with your nor Georgie's observations...not surprisingly.

 

[soundforbjt]

Based on who's opinion? Yours?

If he was showing the side effects why wasn't he tested? Surely the police would have had all the probable cause required to force him to submit to a drug screen.

The side effects are not similar to alcohol, pot, etc. You couldn't tell by looking at him or smelling his breath. And in my opinion, if you kill someone, yes you should be tested.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The side effects are not similar to alcohol, pot, etc. You couldn't tell by looking at him or smelling his breath. And in my opinion, if you kill someone, yes you should be tested.

Had he shown signs of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs the police would have tested him. Obviously he was not showing any signs that night as the police didn't test him.

Sorry but the US Constitution and Florida Law/Statutes protects people from illegal search and seizure.

 

[soundforbjt]

Had he shown signs of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs the police would have tested him. Obviously he was not showing any signs that night as the police didn't test him.

Sorry but the US Constitution and Florida Law/Statutes protects people from illegal search and seizure.

Tell that one to the people caught at alcohol check points.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

More BS and speculation...the Coroners report does not agree with your nor Georgie's observations...not surprisingly.

First of all, his (limited panel) drug tests DID show drugs were in his system.

Second, watch the video. The kid is clearly high on something.. Maybe bath salts, or something they don't test for, but he is obviously intoxicated... And it's not from alcohol.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Tell that one to the people caught at alcohol check points.

Don't have them in Texas as they violate the Constitution.

http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/checkpoint_laws.html

Illegal under Texas' interpretation of federal Constitution

 

[umbrella39]

7-11 tape showing drugged out thug is evidence of suspicious thug.

Said drugged out thug turns into stealth ninja vicious attack thug within minutes of your assessment. Skittles are fucking amazing. Better than Narcan!

Anyhow, reason for posting is I just saw a promo for those of you who still follow this case:


Tuesday - September 11, 2012

A Dr. Phil Exclusive: Friends of George Zimmerman -- “The Most Hated Man in America” -- Speak Out

The shooting death of unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin left many in the nation outraged and the suspect, George Zimmerman, labeled “The Most Hated Man in America” by some, and a racist by others. In a Dr. Phil exclusive, Zimmerman’s best friends, Mark and Sondra Osterman, who kept George secretly hidden away for more than a month before his arrest, speak out for the first time about the controversy. Mark, who works in law enforcement, admits he went with Zimmerman to the shooting range and helped him pick out the gun used to kill Trayvon — a gun that did not have an external safety. Hear why the couple believes Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch leader, had every right to carry the deadly weapon. Do they believe he did the right thing by opening fire? And, did Mark coach Zimmerman for his police interview? Then, Trayvon’s stepmom, Alicia, breaks her silence for the first time. Did Zimmerman act in self-defense? Should he be convicted of second-degree murder? Where do you stand on the heated case? Watch and weigh in!

Looks like it's on tomorrow afternoon on whatever channel in your area plays the bald puppet.

http://drphil.com/shows/

 

[spidey07]

OMG! No external safety!!!

Many defense/carry weapons don't have a safety "switch". You don't want a safety when you're relying on your weapon to save your life, having to muddle with a safety after being so brutally beaten by martin may be what saved zimmerman's life that night.

They have been proven to be a negative to a gun used for carrying for defense.

 

[Druidx]

Every gun has a safety, it's called a trigger.

 

[soundforbjt]

Don't have them in Texas as they violate the Constitution.

http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/checkpoint_laws.html

Legal in FL though.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Legal in FL though.

Okay, obviously GZ showed no signs of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs. I'm quite certain the SPD have experience dealing with people who were under the influence of alcohol or drugs when they been brought into the station for questioning or had been arrested. I'll bet they're also quite versed in Constitutional rights when it comes to probable cause to search someone or direct a alcohol/drug test.

 

[airdata]

Do not the truth & facts get in the way of the TM circle jerk crowd.

If GZ wanted to flee, he could have.

The extra bail restrictions were punitive.

That's false. Was he not required to give up passport(s) in order to get bonded? Withholding is deceptive behavior no matter what you want to say about his intentions.

7-11 tape showing drugged out thug is evidence of suspicious thug.

The video is clearly up for interpretation. Assertions that he was drugged out are both not clear on the tape and contradict many of the other parts of the story you'd like to believe. If he was so drugged out it's HIGHLY unlikely he'd be in the state of mind to be starting any sort of altercation.

7-11 tape showing drugged out thug is evidence of suspicious thug.

haha... re-read my previous statement. Some of our countries most influential people regularly smoke marijuana. Putting it up on some kind of pedestal because of it's legal status is simply retarded and you've already proven that you're full on retard.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That's false. Was he not required to give up passport(s) in order to get bonded? Withholding is deceptive behavior no matter what you want to say about his intentions.





The video is clearly up for interpretation. Assertions that he was drugged out are both not clear on the tape and contradict many of the other parts of the story you'd like to believe. If he was so drugged out it's HIGHLY unlikely he'd be in the state of mind to be starting any sort of altercation.




haha... re-read my previous statement. Some of our countries most influential people regularly smoke marijuana. Putting it up on some kind of pedestal because of it's legal status is simply retarded and you've already proven that you're full on retard.

I do not see how that video is even up for interpretation.. Anyone who has had even minimal knowledge of illicit drugs could spot this kid from a mile away... Unless acting high is part of his 'thug demeanor', in which case we can fall back to .. act like a thug, look like a thug, get treated like a thug.

It has not a thing to do with marijuana. I suspect he was on something stronger than that. Maybe pills he found next to the women's jewelry.

 

[Fern]

Tell that one to the people caught at alcohol check points.

The police cannot force you take the breath tests. However, if you don't voluntarily take it you will lose your license for a period. Generally, when you apply for a DL you are required to sign such an agreement (forfeiture of license if choose not to take test.)

Fern

 

[airdata]

I do not see how that video is even up for interpretation.. Anyone who has had even minimal knowledge of illicit drugs could spot this kid from a mile away... Unless acting high is part of his 'thug demeanor', in which case we can fall back to .. act like a thug, look like a thug, get treated like a thug.

It has not a thing to do with marijuana. I suspect he was on something stronger than that. Maybe pills he found next to the women's jewelry.

There's actually no evidence in that video showing that he was under the influence of anything.

I'm sure if you took other clips from different people in the 7-11 they'd exhibit equal or more strange behavior than you claim Trayvon shows on the video.

That one video is good for laughs though... the one where some idiot inserted text like " ready to fight! " LOL... so... so... so simple minded.

 

[Geosurface]

it's extremely clear that Trayvon was under the influence of something in the 7-11 video, the bobbing and weaving, the inability to stand up straight, taking way too long for a simple transaction, getting lost trying to find the exit.

The only reason anyone denies it is that they were already invested in a certain interpretation of this case before that video was released, and to save face had to deny the obvious.

 

[monovillage]

Damn, umbrella39 has turned into a Dr. Phil shill.

It just goes to show that even a bottom feeder like umbrella39 can drop to new lows.

 

[classy]

it's extremely clear that Trayvon was under the influence of something in the 7-11 video, the bobbing and weaving, the inability to stand up straight, taking way too long for a simple transaction, getting lost trying to find the exit.

The only reason anyone denies it is that they were already invested in a certain interpretation of this case before that video was released, and to save face had to deny the obvious.

Reading some of these posts, I gather any black person to you would be under the influence of something illegal.