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Londo_Jowo

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When his ex said that him and the family were racist and would say racist stuff behind closed doors, the GZ crowd called her a liar.

Looks like she was telling the truth after all.

Funny that GZ stood against the SPD mistreatment of a homeless black man and was mentoring two black youths. Not to mention that the FBI couldn't find any instances of GZ being racist.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/justice/florida-teen-shooting
Witnesses tell FBI that George Zimmerman is no racist
 

classy

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Hatred will lead to strange statements.

Also, what one may call racist based on a single comment does not indicate that the person itself is racists.

Statements also need to be taken in context, not sound bites.

we have people here on both sides that are racists but if questioned/called on it, will deny it completely.

Most want to put this as a racist issue rather than a poor judgement handling from both sides.
Race is easier to attack and harder to defend against.

To say race is not an issue here is disingenuous. It is the MAJOR factor here. GZ suspicion was triggered by seeing a black youth he was not familiar with. It doesn't mean he himself is racist, but race played a factor in his decisions that night. You mentioned context, if I take everything I have come to know about GZ, in context, GZ uses race to define many of his actions. His past deeds clearly show that to be the case.
 

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Funny that GZ stood against the SPD mistreatment of a homeless black man and was mentoring two black youths. Not to mention that the FBI couldn't find any instances of GZ being racist.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/justice/florida-teen-shooting
Witnesses tell FBI that George Zimmerman is no racist

I am married to a country song loving white woman. 18 years and she had my little one. My closest confidant is a white dude. But you and the rest of the bubble bunch here, will still say I am racist. So these blurbs mean nothing about GZ.
 

EagleKeeper

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His suspicion was triggerred by a yhouth (not a black youth).

The race color did not come into play until after Martin's actions while GZ was on the phone.
Tthe timelines are crtiticial.

while it may have been black teens that were burgularizing the neighborhood; at the time GZ made the NEST call; he did not know and/or indicate what the race was.

Based on additional information that has come out; Zimmerman was nto a racists; he was involved within the community with no regard to color.
 

Londo_Jowo

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I am married to a country song loving white woman. 18 years and she had my little one. My closest confidant is a white dude. But you and the rest of the bubble bunch here, will still say I am racist. So these blurbs mean nothing about GZ.

I'm married to a nice brown skinned Asian woman but that hasn't prevented you from calling me a racist in this thread.
 

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I am married to a country song loving white woman. 18 years and she had my little one. My closest confidant is a white dude. But you and the rest of the bubble bunch here, will still say I am racist. So these blurbs mean nothing about GZ.

While you may be married to a country girl; many of your statemtents here as related are racists; you choose to put color before facts.
 

spidey07

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To say race is not an issue here is disingenuous. It is the MAJOR factor here. GZ suspicion was triggered by seeing a black youth he was not familiar with. It doesn't mean he himself is racist, but race played a factor in his decisions that night. You mentioned context, if I take everything I have come to know about GZ, in context, GZ uses race to define many of his actions. His past deeds clearly show that to be the case.

Flat out wrong. Z-man didn't know his race when he called. It was his thug dress and behavior that was suspicious.

When that thug attacked the victim's only choice was to shoot the violent thug who repeatedly and brutally bashed the victims head into the concrete.

Or as your kind like to say...just a fight
 

cronos

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I'm married to a nice brown skinned Asian woman but that hasn't prevented you from calling me a racist in this thread.

Your forum name seems to imply that you are racially mixed of white and 'brown skinned Asian' though. Is that correct?

(I realize this may be off topic. I was just passing by and got curious)
 

Londo_Jowo

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Your forum name seems to imply that you are racially mixed of white and 'brown skinned Asian' though. Is that correct?

(I realize this may be off topic. I was just passing by and got curious)

Londo = Foreigner in Javanese
Jowo = Java


The villiage elders in my wife's village refer to me as Londo Jowo because I've participated in some of their traditional ceremonies. I've donated rice with every harvest to those who are in need. I've also helped pay for required school tests for those who could not afford to do so for their children.
 

OCNewbie

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Most want to put this as a racist issue rather than a poor judgement handling from both sides.

To say race is not an issue here is disingenuous. It is the MAJOR factor here. GZ suspicion was triggered by seeing a black youth he was not familiar with. It doesn't mean he himself is racist, but race played a factor in his decisions that night.

EK didn't say race wasn't an issue, he said this wasn't an issue of racism, so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up after quoting him. GZ's suspicion was by seeing a person he was not familiar with, that was where GZ felt this person didn't belong (in Frank Taaffe's front yard). This place also happened to be literally next door to a home that had been recently burglarized, and I think Frank Taaffe's place may have been hit too (not sure about that). GZ also thought this person's behavior seemed odd given the rain.

Could GZ have misread this person's behavior? Sure. Did the fact that ALL the previous burglaries had been reportedly committed by unknown young black males and the fact that TM was an unknown young black male play A part in GZ's suspicions? I'd say so, and I think anybody else would have felt the same way. Was the mere fact that this unknown person was black the MAJOR factor in why GZ was suspicious? I'd say definitely not.

If GZ had seen an unknown young black male casually walking down the sidewalk with another young black male that he knew to be a resident, on a bright sunny day, wearing basketball shorts and t-shirts, laughing and seemingly joking with one another, do you think GZ would have called the police on them?

Regardless, TM's race had nothing to do with why GZ shot him, and that's why we're talking about this in the first place, and why GZ was charged with a crime.

You mentioned context, if I take everything I have come to know about GZ, in context, GZ uses race to define many of his actions. His past deeds clearly show that to be the case.

Such as the deed of mentoring those two black children? Or rallying for the prosecution of that police lieutenant's white son, because he attacked a black homeless man? Or encouraging his family to vote for Obama because he thought it would be symbolic of change in America? If that's what you're implying, then I guess I agree with you.
 

cronos

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Londo = Foreigner in Javanese
Jowo = Java


The villiage elders in my wife's village refer to me as Londo Jowo because I've participated in some of their traditional ceremonies. I've donated rice with every harvest to those who are in need. I've also helped pay for required school tests for those who could not afford to do so for their children.

Thanks for the explanation. I knew what the words mean, I grew up in the area. It's just that when I saw your name I took it as you showing your identity as racially mixed, one parent a 'white foreigner' and the other parent a Javanese :)
 

spidey07

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Stop trying to pretend this isn't racism.

It's full blown black racists as to why this innocent victim was charged in the first place.

Oh yes there is very much racist involved. By the Martin family and crump.
 

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Attorneys in Trayvon Martin case address media

April 27, 2013 07:38 PM EST
ORLANDO, Fla. &#8212; The attorneys in the Trayvon Martin shooting say social media gives people a way to stay engaged in high profile cases that was not possible years ago.

Speaking were Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Trayvon Martin's parents, and George Zimmerman's defense attorney, Mark O'Mara. They were talking Saturday at the Florida Associated Press Broadcasters Banquet in Orlando.

O'Mara says he would prefer to "do away with all media" in a criminal case, but "that's a fantasy that is 40 years ago." Crump says social media has given people who normally would not have a voice a way to be engaged in the case.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130427/us-neighborhood-watch
 

Darkman

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Gimmi a f**king break...... lol :(

O'Mara, Crump agree: Social media playing key role in Trayvon case

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By Desiree Stennett, Orlando Sentinel
9:06 p.m. EDT, April 27, 2013

Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...amin-crump-mark-omara-20130427,0,796767.story
 

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Valerie Boey&#8207; @ vboey - 2h
@markomaralaw says Sanford Police conducted investigation properly. #FOX35 #FAPB

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Valerie Boey &#8207;@ vboey - 2h
@markomaralaw says this shouldn't be a civil rights case. Not race based.#FOX35 #FAPB

Valerie Boey&#8207;@vboey - 2h
@markomaralaw says whatever happens to #Georgezimmerman half the country will be divided#FOX35 #FAPB

Valerie Boey&#8207; @ vboey - 3h
#Bencrump says if he is deposed, he will ask #Omara to be deposed too.#FOX35

Valerie Boey &#8207;@ vboey - 3h
#Omara says there won't be a self defense Stand Your Ground hearing.#FOX35


Source: https://twitter.com/rzimmermanjr
 
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classy

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While you may be married to a country girl; many of your statemtents here as related are racists; you choose to put color before facts.

That's your opinion. Show me your posts where you challenged the obvious racist nonsense that's be going on here for years? You got nothing, but the same bs that the rest of these guys throw out. You bitch and complain about blacks, but the minute someone like me points out the other side of the coin, you scream black racist. Give me fin break...................

They run out, find degrading news stories and post them as if they are the norm for African Americans. They pile up hundreds of fracking posts, but the stories that show the same crimes being committed by whites, gets 2 dozen posts.
 

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I'm married to a nice brown skinned Asian woman but that hasn't prevented you from calling me a racist in this thread.

Yea I wonder what she would think if she read your posts? I wonder how she would feel if she read the lengths and how low you clowns will stoop to demonize the kid? If it ain't his skin color, then please tell me what the f it is?
 

OCNewbie

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They run out, find degrading news stories and post them as if they are the norm for African Americans. They pile up hundreds of fracking posts, but the stories that show the same crimes being committed by whites, gets 2 dozen posts.

Why not start a new thread and talk about the hypocrisy you are speaking of? Show links and support what you're claiming. Perhaps at that point something will be done about it. Until then posts like this of yours will get lost with all the others.