UN report on climate change concludes we're in serious trouble

[Muse]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/17/science/earth/un-says-lag-in-confronting-climate-woes-will-be-costly.html

Read this last night on NY Times Blog. The report was leaked first to Reuters last week, then the New York Times, it will be officially released in a couple of months or so.

I was raised to be an optimist, but this is pretty convincing that we are in for it if we don't get much more serious in addressing the carbon emissions issue. If you are skeptical, read this and give a reason not to think that the most serious issue we are apt to face in the coming decades is global warming, by far.

The first paragraph of the article:
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Nations have so dragged their feet in battling climate change that the situation has grown critical and the risk of severe economic disruption is rising, according to a draft United Nations report. Another 15 years of failure to limit carbon emissions could make the problem virtually impossible to solve with current technologies, experts found.

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Another quote from within the article:
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While emissions appear to have fallen in recent years in some of the wealthiest countries, that is somewhat of an illusion, the report found. The growth of international trade means many of the goods consumed in wealthy countries are now made abroad — so that those countries have, in effect, outsourced their greenhouse gas emissions to countries like China.

 

[schmuckley]

I agree;There is a chance of economic disruption if people listen to the climate-change
Chicken Littles.Owait..That ship has already sailed.

 

[michal1980]

so even when the usa is reducing its emissions it still gets blamed for what happens in china.

How obvious is the UN's anti america agenda?

 

[boomerang]

Another 15 years of failure to limit carbon emissions could make the problem virtually impossible to solve with current technologies, experts found.

I just had a deja vu moment.

 

[Incorruptible]

The UN is very anti-American and panders too much to countries like China and doesn't call them out enough. China and India are huge emitters of carbon yet they attack the US.

 

[Greenman]

A report from the UN is meaningless. It's a propaganda machine at best.

 

[Oldgamer]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/17/science/earth/un-says-lag-in-confronting-climate-woes-will-be-costly.html

Read this last night on NY Times Blog. The report was leaked first to Reuters last week, then the New York Times, it will be officially released in a couple of months or so.

I was raised to be an optimist, but this is pretty convincing that we are in for it if we don't get much more serious in addressing the carbon emissions issue. If you are skeptical, read this and give a reason not to think that the most serious issue we are apt to face in the coming decades is global warming, by far.

The first paragraph of the article:
- -
Nations have so dragged their feet in battling climate change that the situation has grown critical and the risk of severe economic disruption is rising, according to a draft United Nations report. Another 15 years of failure to limit carbon emissions could make the problem virtually impossible to solve with current technologies, experts found.

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Another quote from within the article:
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While emissions appear to have fallen in recent years in some of the wealthiest countries, that is somewhat of an illusion, the report found. The growth of international trade means many of the goods consumed in wealthy countries are now made abroad — so that those countries have, in effect, outsourced their greenhouse gas emissions to countries like China.

I think that the big corporations and lobbied/paid politicians have done a very good job of planting "doubt' in peoples minds with regard to the whole climate global warnings. They have even paid other scientists off to make false scientific claims to muddy the waters in their favor.

I don't see much changing on this until we have some really cataclysmic events that involve much more of the country and not just small portions here and there. It is a damn shame that we have allowed big corps to pollute the hell out of our earth and destroy it, and they continue to do so.

If we are destined to die this way, due to our own ignorance then we just are. Sad thing is none of us here will probably be alive when that day comes, and it will affect our kids, and their kids.

 

[Muse]

so even when the usa is reducing its emissions it still gets blamed for what happens in china.

How obvious is the UN's anti america agenda?

Not very obvious. Look, the US was a primary force creating the Kyoto agreement, then they refuse to ratify. Is the USA not importing a high percentage of its manufactured goods from a country (China) that's contributing a major proportion of carbon emissions? Where is your thinking?

 

[Muse]

A report from the UN is meaningless. It's a propaganda machine at best.

No, you are a propaganda machine. At best? I don't know WTF you are. I'm sure you have a better side, somewhere...

 

[Nintendesert]

Just keep buying your birckenstocks and we'll all be ok.

 

[Muse]

I think that the big corporations and lobbied/paid politicians have done a very good job of planting "doubt' in peoples minds with regard to the whole climate global warnings. They have even paid other scientists off to make false scientific claims to muddy the waters in their favor.

I don't see much changing on this until we have some really cataclysmic events that involve much more of the country and not just small portions here and there. It is a damn shame that we have allowed big corps to pollute the hell out of our earth and destroy it, and they continue to do so.

If we are destined to die this way, due to our own ignorance then we just are. Sad thing is none of us here will probably be alive when that day comes, and it will affect our kids, and their kids.

Yup. The politics of dragging feet is killing efforts to solve this. By the time it becomes obvious enough to generate the motivation to root out the prevaricators it will be too late. It's worse than a sad situation.

 

[unokitty]

War on poverty.

War on drugs.

War on Global Warming.

What could possibly go wrong?

Uno

 

[Muse]

The UN is very anti-American and panders too much to countries like China and doesn't call them out enough. China and India are huge emitters of carbon yet they attack the US.

Did you read the article? Obviously not. They blame China far more than the USA. Read it!

 

[Muse]

I agree;There is a chance of economic disruption if people listen to the climate-change
Chicken Littles.Owait..That ship has already sailed.

Oh, looks like you missed your boat.

Here I am in CA, where we've currently got the worst drought/over-warm winter conditions on record. You can live in your little bubble world and deny it, but the water is rising and some day it will drown you (and your kids) if you keep playing the ostrich.

 

[blankslate]

The UN is a commie organization and we should kic...


*edit*

oops just looked and the resident nutheads already replied. Carry on.


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[glenn1]

Yup. The politics of dragging feet is killing efforts to solve this. By the time it becomes obvious enough to generate the motivation to root out the prevaricators it will be too late. It's worse than a sad situation.

Well then, you and those who are on the side who believes in manmade global climate change had better switch gears and start focusing on remediation instead of prevention, otherwise you're just as worthless in solving the problem. Having a bunch of whining hand-wringers around saying "I told you so" ain't going to help out shit unless your entire objective is to prioritize the hope you're correct over the reality of being ineffective. Right now, the "cures" you are presenting are worse than the disease you predict and are thus being correctly rejected by the public.

 

[schmuckley]

Oh, looks like you missed your boat.

Here I am in CA, where we've currently got the worst drought/over-warm winter conditions on record. You can live in your little bubble world and deny it, but the water is rising and some day it will drown you (and your kids) if you keep playing the ostrich.

riiiight.Meanwhile;It's colder than normal everywhere else.
Hopefully someday a massive earthquake severs CA from the US and it
becomes its own island.

Arctic ice is at all-time high.

Go eat some "Live Food" or something.

 

[Paul98]

riiiight.Meanwhile;It's colder than normal everywhere else.
Hopefully someday a massive earthquake severs CA from the US and it
becomes its own island.

Go eat some "Live Food" or something.

Everywhere else????

 

[PokerGuy]

Quick, hand over more power to some garbage UN group, give more money to government and the UN, and I'm sure it will get solved.

Phew, for a second there I thought there wasn't a plan to solve this issue

 

[schmuckley]

Quick, hand over more power to some garbage UN group, give more money to government and the UN, and I'm sure it will get solved.

Phew, for a second there I thought there wasn't a plan to solve this issue

It's not like they'll waste billions of dollars while making your fuel and power bill
higher or anything :biggrin:

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/

 

[dainthomas]

Oh, looks like you missed your boat.

Here I am in CA, where we've currently got the worst drought/over-warm winter conditions on record. You can live in your little bubble world and deny it, but the water is rising and some day it will drown you (and your kids) if you keep playing the ostrich.

I thought weather != climate? At least that's what we hear whenever we get a huge cold snap.

And "on record" for California (or anywhere) is less than infinitesimal when looking at climate for the entire Quaternary Period.

 

[nehalem256]

Oh, looks like you missed your boat.

Here I am in CA, where we've currently got the worst drought/over-warm winter conditions on record. You can live in your little bubble world and deny it, but the water is rising and some day it will drown you (and your kids) if you keep playing the ostrich.

Please show me the prediction of where sea levels will rise 800ft

 

[PokerGuy]

It's not like they'll waste billions of dollars while making your fuel and power bill
higher or anything :biggrin:

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/

Nope, that would never happen of course :awe:

All we need to do is hand over more control, more power, more money to government and UN entities, and everything will be solved. We're good to go, sign me up.

 

[BUnit1701]

Oh, looks like you missed your boat.

Here I am in CA, where we've currently got the worst drought/over-warm winter conditions on record. You can live in your little bubble world and deny it, but the water is rising and some day it will drown you (and your kids) if you keep playing the ostrich.

Make up our mind, record cold cant be cited as evidence, but record heat and drought can?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Just another thread where no one reads the OP's source..