UK Underage Sex Ring Sparks Racial Tensions

[Xecuter]

Thats a stupid analogy, because Christianity explicitly condemns murder. Islam on the other hand, approves of pedophilia.

Says who? 15th century Spain is calling...

 

[Incorruptible]

These types of things will only continue to happen and get even worse unless people take a stand against this

 

[Carfax83]

Says who? 15th century Spain is calling...

Again, stupid analogy. Murder is a sin in Christianity. Just because a group of Christians engage in sinful behaviour, doesn't mean they're doing so with religious sanction.

Pedophilia on the other hand, is sanctioned by Islam itself, because of their prophet. All Muslims are compelled to follow the Prophet Muhammad since he is the most exemplary model of what it means to be a good muslim.

Thats why Saudi Arabia is having such a difficult time with trying to raise the age of marriage for girls. How can you condemn underage marriage, when your bloody prophet, the very one you're supposed to be emulating, did the exact same thing?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Again, stupid analogy. Murder is a sin in Christianity. Just because a group of Christians engage in sinful behaviour, doesn't mean they're doing so with religious sanction.

Pedophilia on the other hand, is sanctioned by Islam itself, because of their prophet. All Muslims are compelled to follow the Prophet Muhammad since he is the most exemplary model of what it means to be a good muslim.

Thats why Saudi Arabia is having such a difficult time with trying to raise the age of marriage for girls. How can you condemn underage marriage, when your bloody prophet, the very one you're supposed to be emulating, did the exact same thing?

And the catholic church has an embarrassing history of hiding sexual abuse I children and inaction against the perpetrators. How many priests have gotten away with the abuse of children over the years with the church doing nothing?

 

[SagaLore]

Thats a stupid analogy, because Christianity explicitly condemns murder. Islam on the other hand, approves of pedophilia.

This isn't a thread about Islam versus Christianity.

Its about:

In the UK groups of muslim men are going around and grooming white girls to force them to have sex with other people. It has been entirely Pakistani muslims that have been doing this.

and

Is it time for the policy of multiculturalism to be ended and for England to change its immigration policy.

Btw, the first statement is a lie. Girls of all ethnicities/religions are targeted by guys of all ethnicities/religions in criminal sex organizations.

 

[waggy]

And the catholic church has an embarrassing history of hiding sexual abuse I children and inaction against the perpetrators. How many priests have gotten away with the abuse of children over the years with the church doing nothing?

and look at how many people are disgusted at it and it is hurting the church. They fucked up and should be held accountable.

 

[alzan]

Um sorry, but anyone who thinks Islam isn't a part of this tragedy is either some liberal nutcase, very ignorant, or most likely a combination of both.

One of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was Ayisha, whom he wedded at the age of 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9.

Pedophilia is sanctioned in Islam as a result of this. Look at some of the comments of Ayatollah Khomeini (A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990], the leader of the Iranian revolution back in the 80s, or the Afghanistani and Pakistani cultural tradition of bacha bazi..

In Saudi Arabia, the birth place of the vile religion Islam, girls can be married as young as 8!

So yes, culture and religion definitely plays a large part in this disgusting practice by these Pakistani men, and anyone who doesn't think so, is a fucking idiot.. D:

The Ayatollah Khomeini does not represent all of the Muslims in the world. Also, if you and Incorruptible are so aghast at this practice, perhaps you should both go to Saudi Arabia and walk through Muslim neighborhoods and shout in unison about how evil Muslims are. Be sure and get back to us on how that worked out for you.

 

[waggy]

The Ayatollah Khomeini does not represent all of the Muslims in the world. Also, if you and Incorruptible are so aghast at this practice, perhaps you should both go to Saudi Arabia and walk through Muslim neighborhoods and shout in unison about how evil Muslims are. Be sure and get back to us on how that worked out for you.

suicide would faster if he just slit his wrist.

 

[Incorruptible]

This isn't a thread about Islam versus Christianity.

Its about:



and



Btw, the first statement is a lie. Girls of all ethnicities/religions are targeted by guys of all ethnicities/religions in criminal sex organizations.

That was a typo, its mostly white girls but many girls who aren't muslim were targeted.

This isn't about defending the practice or christians vs muslims, feel free to make your own thread for that

 

[alzan]

Um sorry, but anyone who thinks Islam isn't a part of this tragedy is either some liberal nutcase, very ignorant, or most likely a combination of both.

One of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was Ayisha, whom he wedded at the age of 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9.

Pedophilia is sanctioned in Islam as a result of this. Look at some of the comments of Ayatollah Khomeini (A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990], the leader of the Iranian revolution back in the 80s, or the Afghanistani and Pakistani cultural tradition of bacha bazi..

In Saudi Arabia, the birth place of the vile religion Islam, girls can be married as young as 8!

So yes, culture and religion definitely plays a large part in this disgusting practice by these Pakistani men, and anyone who doesn't think so, is a fucking idiot.. D:

By the way, in the Prophet Muhammad's time people didn't live as long as we do now. I believe average lifetime in the 7th century was ~35 years. Girls were married early in order to have a better chance of producing families; I don't think there's any data from 1300 years ago but I'm guessing infant mortality rates were quite high.

What we call pedophilia was simply family planning 1300 years ago. How old were girls when they got married in the 1500's? Still pretty young (by our standards).

 

[Incorruptible]

By the way, in the Prophet Muhammad's time people didn't live as long as we do now. I believe average lifetime in the 7th century was ~35 years. Girls were married early in order to have a better chance of producing families; I don't think there's any data from 1300 years ago but I'm guessing infant mortality rates were quite high.

What we call pedophilia was simply family planning 1300 years ago. How old were girls when they got married in the 1500's? Still pretty young (by our standards).

No, that is just wrong, you still didnt answer the part about a 50+Year old man having sex with a 10 year old wife

 

[Charles Kozierok]

How old were girls when they got married in the 1500's? Still pretty young (by our standards).

1500s? Try the 1800s. It was routine for barely pubescent girls to marry old codgers right here in the good old US of A.

I don't condone that, of course. But it's funny that the bigot brigade only complains about things when Muslims do it.

And of course there's the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy, where they have sex with ten-year-old boys instead of girls, and then cover it up.

 

[nyker96]

I don't think it matter if these men are muslin, jewish, catholic, mormon, they are just criminals. Nor if the victims chinese, jewish, white, black, middle eastern, european etc. they are just victims. This case only highlights the fact that every group, country or society has bad apples.

 

[Incorruptible]

1500s? Try the 1800s. It was routine for barely pubescent girls to marry old codgers right here in the good old US of A.

I don't condone that, of course. But it's funny that the bigot brigade only complains about things when Muslims do it.

And of course there's the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy, where they have sex with ten-year-old boys instead of girls, and then cover it up.

Stop defending them, they dont do it now but many muslims still do this and its very commonplace. Thanks for showing the double standard, act like a big man and attack Christians but not a word to say about muslims.

 

[alzan]

No, that is just wrong, you still didnt answer the part about a 50+Year old man having sex with a 10 year old wife

It's unanswerable because our modern day standards don't apply to standards 1300 years ago. What are you going to do, jump into Doc Brown's DeLorean and go back to Muhammad's time and tell him how evil he is?

As far as abusing underage girls, yes it's wrong. Catch the perpetrators and punish them. But stop broad-brushing a religion, it's roots and it's adherents for the actions of a few.

Stop defending them, they dont do it now but many muslims still do this and its very commonplace. Thanks for showing the double standard, act like a big man and attack Christians but not a word to say about muslims.

Define many.

 

[Incorruptible]

It's unanswerable because our modern day standards don't apply to standards 1300 years ago. What are you going to do, jump into Doc Brown's DeLorean and go back to Muhammad's time and tell him how evil he is?

As far as abusing underage girls, yes it's wrong. Catch the perpetrators and punish them. But stop broad-brushing a religion, it's roots and it's adherents for the actions of a few.



Define many.

Many of the supporters in the religion support this and refuse to condemn the perpetrators, as well many got mad at the one muslim who spoke the truth.

 

[SagaLore]

No, that is just wrong, you still didnt answer the part about a 50+Year old man having sex with a 10 year old wife

I thought we were discussing the media and its lack of enthusiasm for the topic of UK underage sex rings?

Oh no wait, that's not what you wanted. You're just finding a topic to ignite a hate thread:

Stop defending them, they dont do it now but many muslims still do this and its very commonplace. Thanks for showing the double standard, act like a big man and attack Christians but not a word to say about muslims.

 

[Incorruptible]

I thought we were discussing the media and its lack of enthusiasm for the topic of UK underage sex rings?

Oh no wait, that's not what you wanted. You're just finding a topic to ignite a hate thread:

We are discussing the topic and how it can be stopped, the media plays a role

 

[alzan]

I thought we were discussing the media and its lack of enthusiasm for the topic of UK underage sex rings?

Oh no wait, that's not what you wanted. You're just finding a topic to ignite a hate thread:

That's his MO. He'll create hate threads and then derail them himself. I usually play along with his derails just to see what inane post he'll come up with in reply.

 

[Incorruptible]

That's his MO. He'll create hate threads and then derail them himself. I usually play along with his derails just to see what inane post he'll come up with in reply.

OK, for those that aren't clear the thread is about non muslim girls being targeted by muslim men and forced to have sex and how this is the result of multiculturalism and the left/media along with many muslims refuse to condemn this

 

[Brainonska511]

with many muslims refuse to condemn this

From your own article:

Afzal says that as a Muslim he is sickened by the crimes.
"Rape and alcohol and abuse are not part of Islam," he says. "Just because they have a beard and go to the mosque doesn't make them good Muslims."

I expect you to be first in line and loudest to condemn whatever group of people you might be tangentially associated with when they do something utterly despicable.

 

[Zebo]

I have my problem with Islam but fact is white women sell well and this has nothing to do with islam but capitalism of pimping.

Even in the old days like 1500s Barbary pirates got 10x more money for white women sex slaves sold in Algiers and Tunis slave market than others.

 

[Incorruptible]

I have my problem with Islam but fact is white women sell well and this has nothing to do with islam but capitalism of pimping.

Even in the old days like 1500s Barbary pirates got 10x more money for white women sex slaves sold in Algiers and Tunis slave market than others.

It has to do with islam and the treatment of women, becuase its non muslim women being targeted, they have also went after Hindus and Sikhs

 

[alzan]

OK, for those that aren't clear the thread is about non muslim girls being targeted by muslim men and forced to have sex and how this is the result of multiculturalism and the left/media along with many muslims refuse to condemn this

So do Muslims who condemn this have to contact you or the media personally and voice their condemnation of this or can they just not practice this and live their lives peacefully?

Also, are you sure this is a result of multiculturalism or just a few bad apples in the barrel?

Some Muslim men treat their own women with repugnance and fear, is it really that much of a stretch that a subset of Muslim men treat women of other races and creeds in the same way?

You still haven't accurately defined many.

 

[nobodyknows]

So do Muslims who condemn this have to contact you or the media personally and voice their condemnation of this or can they just not practice this and live their lives peacefully?

Also, are you sure this is a result of multiculturalism or just a few bad apples in the barrel?

Some Muslim men treat their own women with repugnance and fear, is it really that much of a stretch that a subset of Muslim men treat women of other races and creeds in the same way?

You still haven't accurately defined many.

Why aren't they making sex slaves out of young Muslim women? Or would their brothers have to kill them?