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ugh, 7.62 x 54r. corrosive?

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mizzou

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Im having difficulty getting any mosin/nagant ammo at a reasonable price. All the relatively cheap non-berdan primed stuff is gone, leaving the pricy "sniper" dragunov style ammo left.

Anyone have any opinions? Im about to just drop in on a can of soviet bloc 440 round berdan primed rounds.

I dont shoot that often and from what ive reada good cleaning right afer shooting can unfoul the barrell. I would probably never shoot it in a nice weapon, this is a $99 rifle i have....

Does anyo.e here use berdan primed stuff or totally avoid it?
 
mizzou said:
Im having difficulty getting any mosin/nagant ammo at a reasonable price. All the relatively cheap non-berdan primed stuff is gone, leaving the pricy "sniper" dragunov style ammo left.

Anyone have any opinions? Im about to just drop in on a can of soviet bloc 440 round berdan primed rounds.

I dont shoot that often and from what ive reada good cleaning right afer shooting can unfoul the barrell. I would probably never shoot it in a nice weapon, this is a $99 rifle i have....

Does anyo.e here use berdan primed stuff or totally avoid it?
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The cheap stuff is going to be the 20-40 year old eastern european ammo. A buddy and I each have late-20s versions and hope to do a lot of shooting this fall.

While the cheap ammo will most probably be corrosive ... just clean your rifle after each use ... it will be fine.
 
Just pour boiling hot water into the bore, windex, etc. Corrosive ammo requires more intense cleaning but it's not undoable.
 
I shoot corrosive all the time, it really is fine just clean out your gun right when you finish, Ive heard some people bring Windex to clean out their gun with when they finish shooting, they just spray it down the barrel.
 
It's a cheap rifle, get the cheap ammo. Just clean it right when you get done for the day. Don't overthink it.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Ammonia based cleaners will react with the compounds that cause the corrosion.
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No, water dissolves the salts left behind by the primer and washes them out.

OP, just pour something with water in it down the bore after you shoot, then clean normally. Plain water works (that's what I use, if you make it hot it evaporates faster) or Windex works too but the ammonia doesn't do anything besides dissolve copper fouling IIRC.

I only shoot corrosive ammo through my Mosin. When I had my AK74 that's all I shot through it too (cleaning is a bit worse when you have a gas system to worry about). It's not that bad.
 
I just spray Windex down the barrel (from the bore).

You can get non-corrosive ammo but it's going to be like 10x more expensive. Prvi Partizan makes some. I'm Wolf makes some as well.

Just buy the spam cans of corrosive ammo and just make sure you flush the barrel with water or windex and then clean asap (like at the range or when you get home).
 
i shot about 20 rounds of corrosive through my nagant and didn't clean it for like a year. the barrel looks fine. these guns were not meant to be treated gingerly, they were meant for warfare, so was the ammo.
 
Your rifle wont suddenly corrode in the course of an hour or two after firing corrosive primed ammunition. It is important to give it a good cleaning in the next day or two though.

Corrosive ammo is such not because of any real metal eating abilities of the chemicals left in the barrel but rather the chemicals left in the barrel (Roughly the equivalent of table salt) absorb moisture from the air.

You can use Windex or you can also use hot water. More to the point, if you are going to shoot corrosive ammo its important to give a thorough cleaning to the rifle to make sure you get the salts out of the barrel after firing. Its not terribly difficult really. Get a bucket and place the barrel of the rifle in the bucket. Pour hot water down the action and through the barrel. A glass of hot water should do the trick, you dont need a 10 gallon flush. After that clean as normal with brush, patch and oil.
 
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Triumph said:
That's not a very good box of truth article. He didn't even test anything. I want to see a barrel put away after shooting corrosive, and pictures of it at 1 week, 1 month, and 1 year. Otherwise it's just an article by any old guy about what he likes to do.
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It's an article by a guy with a lot of experience, showing you how he does things. Very appropriate, imo.

He makes it a point to say that this is just the way he does things in the education area, and you aren't obligated, and the BOT results are only the results he got in a particular test, and not necessarily what you will get.

He's retired. He doesn't have the money to deliberately ruin a barrel, unless someone donates one to him.

He probably would not want to ruin a perfectly good barrel anyway.

Besides, there's no question that corrosive primers can ruin barrels. There's no need to test. There's no argument about it.

There's a need to educate.
 
Isn't the point of buying a cheap Russian rifle to run it hard with cheap Russian ammo? I understand the desire to keep the rifle in pristine condition, but as long as you clean and lube your rifle (which you should be doing anyway), you'll be fine.

Also, google "slickguns" for deals on guns and ammo.
 
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