UAE Gives Up: DP World to Hand Ports Over

[Duckzilla]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: conjur
CNN is already kissing the GOP's ass:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/09/port.security/index.html

House Republicans are openly defying the president, apparently to prevent Democrats from outflanking them on national security and outsourcing issues as elections approach.

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House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Illinois, and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, delivered the news to Bush during a meeting Thursday at the White House...Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-California, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, worked with other GOP leaders to amend the spending bill.

Nevermind it was Democrats that raised initial and loud opposition to this deal.

Republicans Save The Day! YIPPEE!!!

:roll:

so who cares that it was the right thing to do?... all you care about is who gets the credit?!

bah... so single-minded you are young grasshopper.

No, I'm pointing out that this was obviously a Rovian operation. It was a political stunt. The GOP has become quite adept at those of late.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious now.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
I wouldn't be pushing people to look at your sig if I were you.. It makes you look like a complete and utter fool.

I just figured that a boost in aluminum deflector beanie sales would increase the value of your stock.... silly me!

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
CNN: Breaking News

Well, I guess Bush dodged that one!

good. we can finally push this into the non-issue pile!

Yep, sorry Libs!

Damage is done. Plus the opportunity for GOP Congress to distance itself from Bush's approval ratings is gone too.

 

[CaptnKirk]

I just think it is so cute that representatives of a foriegn government can play games with OUR Government
and make them look foolish.

Do YOU trust the UAE to look out for the interests of the United States and it's People ?

 

[techs]

While everyone was looking at the Dubai Ports deal the Patriot Act got thru and Congress decided not to look into the illegal wiretapping. And Republicans in Congress got some separation from the Boy Blunder in the White House.
I really wonder if Rove didn't have a hand in this.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: techs
While everyone was looking at the Dubai Ports deal the Patriot Act got thru and Congress decided not to look into the illegal wiretapping. And Republicans in Congress got some separation from the Boy Blunder in the White House.
I really wonder if Rove didn't have a hand in this.

Do you really think it would be his 'hand' ?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: techs
While everyone was looking at the Dubai Ports deal the Patriot Act got thru and Congress decided not to look into the illegal wiretapping. And Republicans in Congress got some separation from the Boy Blunder in the White House.
I really wonder if Rove didn't have a hand in this.

aaaacck! another one who must quickly click the link in my sig! hurry!! before they get you too!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: jrenz
We'll be lucky if we don't lose the support of one of our biggest allies in the middle east.

Really, we should've gave them control over the Whitehouse too.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I just think it is so cute that representatives of a foriegn government can play games with OUR Government
and make them look foolish.

Do YOU trust the UAE to look out for the interests of the United States and it's People ?

all i know is that israel's largest shipper trusts them. that speaks volumes to me.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: techs
While everyone was looking at the Dubai Ports deal the Patriot Act got thru and Congress decided not to look into the illegal wiretapping. And Republicans in Congress got some separation from the Boy Blunder in the White House.
I really wonder if Rove didn't have a hand in this.

Do you really think it would be his 'hand' ?

Ewww...don't want to imagine what Turd Blossom would use.

 

[Lemon law]

Some things are being missed---the one good thing about the whole port deal is that it should have raised the issue of exactly how lax our port security is.
Regardless who actually runs the port.-naturally that was glossed over---and the GOP will get the credit.---------until Al-Quida smuggles into some really big bomb
through an American port.---and then Bush will use that to stampede a paniced congress into making him dictator for life

But Bush's all offence no defense homeland security plan is about as erffective as his Katrina policy---Pray it don't happen.

So it will be back to spending nothing on port security-----and a political issue that should have had a positive effect on raising our awareness is now just more lipstick on a pig.

And the band slept on.-------please don't confuse us with the fact-----thinking will only hurt our heads. Or in the immortal words of Alfred E--what me worry?
But Pardon me--I do worry--at the rate Bush is pissing people off---we are now target #1. Yipee--we are number one--thanks to GWB.--who tells one and all
Bring it on.

 

[Pens1566]

Haliburton FTW!!!!

 

[kage69]

Rove and Cheney are using Bush to nose for brownie points with those rightly skeptical of this admin's history.

Still damn funny though, if the Harriet Myers thing was a slap in the face to W, this is the PR equivalent of a fist to the ear. But what the hell, the kid became disposable Nov 4th! The good of the many outweigh the good of the few! It's not like the ol' brainiac has a long and distinguished college seminar history ahead of him, right? 😉

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: techs
While everyone was looking at the Dubai Ports deal the Patriot Act got thru and Congress decided not to look into the illegal wiretapping. And Republicans in Congress got some separation from the Boy Blunder in the White House.
I really wonder if Rove didn't have a hand in this.

aaaacck! another one who must quickly click the link in my sig! hurry!! before they get you too!

I don't know about a conspiracy theory, but look at what's happened. The Republicans in congress managed to distance themselves from Bush's approach to national security without having to really oppose any issues Bush finds important. In other words, they were against some silly port deal, and in favor of warrantless wiretapping, yet they appear to be independent and distant from Bush's increasinly unpopular views. Whether this is some sort of Rove scheme or simply sheer luck, the fact remains that the Republicans came out on top here.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
CNN: Breaking News

Well, I guess Bush dodged that one!

good. we can finally push this into the non-issue pile!

Only a non-issue to you, since it wouldn't lead to the killing of brown people.

 

[magomago]

Absolutely ridiculous. I swear its borderline racism and people are opposed because they are arabs from the middle east. Hacks on both sides should be be absolutely ashamed.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: magomago
Absolutely ridiculous. I swear its borderline racism and people are opposed because they are arabs from the middle east. Hacks on both sides should be be absolutely ashamed.

Maybe you care about hurt feelings of a bunch of terrorist and terrorist supports but the rest of the world doesn't.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: magomago
Absolutely ridiculous. I swear its borderline racism and people are opposed because they are arabs from the middle east. Hacks on both sides should be be absolutely ashamed.

Maybe you care about hurt feelings of a bunch of terrorist and terrorist supports but the rest of the world doesn't.

you obviously know a lot about the UAE.

Its one of the only countries over there that isnt still in the dark ages. They are reinvesting their assets so they can actually exsist when the oil money runs out and the middle east turns into a pile of sand no one cares about again.

It wouldnt suprise me if the UAE just buys a majority share in whatever company gets control anyway.

 

[sandorski]

There was llittle basis for any opposition to this deal to begin with. The Owners of Ports don't determine Security requirements, they don't even carry out the Inspections to cargo. Even if OBL owned the Ports himself the Ports would be as secure as they are(which is a whole other issue).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: magomago
Absolutely ridiculous. I swear its borderline racism and people are opposed because they are arabs from the middle east. Hacks on both sides should be be absolutely ashamed.

Maybe you care about hurt feelings of a bunch of terrorist and terrorist supports but the rest of the world doesn't.

you obviously know a lot about the UAE.

Its one of the only countries over there that isnt still in the dark ages. They are reinvesting their assets so they can actually exsist when the oil money runs out and the middle east turns into a pile of sand no one cares about again.

It wouldnt suprise me if the UAE just buys a majority share in whatever company gets control anyway.

They're still aligned with terrorists:

Bin Laden tied to UAE
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Reports_tied_UAE_to_bin_Laden_0223.html

Al-Qaeda Infiltrated UAE Government, According To 2002 Letter
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/01/aq-infiltrated-uae/

Sept. 11 Report Ties Bin Laden to UAE
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_on_go_ot/ports_bin_laden

UAE royals, bin Laden's saviours
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/mar/25osama.htm

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/dubai/transshipment-milestones.html

March 1989: A firm owned by the Indian government reportedly ships 60 tons of thionyl chloride, which can be used to manufacture mustard gas and nerve agents, to Iran via Dubai.

May - June 1989: 100 metric tons of centrifuge-grade maraging steel are reportedly delivered from Belgium through Dubai to Iraq. The supplier thought the steel was destined for Pakistan.

June 1989: Rheineisen Chemical Products arranges for 257 tons of thionyl chloride, a mustard gas and nerve agent precursor, to be shipped from India to Dubai's Shatif Trading Company for transshipment to Iran. Rheineisen, a West German firm owned by an Iranian family, cancels the contract amid concerns about its legitimacy, and the chemical is returned from Dubai to India. Seyed Kharim Ali Sobhani, an Iranian diplomat who had brokered three shipments of thiodiglycol (a precursor of mustard gas) from the U.S to Iran between 1987 and 1988, is reportedly implicated in the deal.

1990: A Greek intermediary claiming to represent A.Q. Khan offers Iraq an atomic bomb design, promising that any required materials could be procured from Western countries and shipped via Dubai.

...

1994 - 1995: Bukary Syed Abu (B.S.A.) Tahir, a Sri Lankan based in Dubai, allegedly organizes the transshipment of two containers of centrifuge components from Dubai to Iran, on behalf of A.Q. Khan, for $3 million.

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1996: The German government warns its exporters that Iranian companies active in procurement for weapons programs are present in Dubai. Among the entities that arrange and finance technology transfers via front companies in Dubai are Iran's State Purchasing Organization, and Bonyad Mostazafan and Janbazan Foundation.

June 1996: Dubai's Guide Oil Equipment Company is identified in a U.S. court as a corporation that ships impregnated alumina, which can be used in the manufacture of nerve gas, through Dubai or the United Kingdom to Iran. In 1998 Abdol Hamid Rashidian and Henry Joseph Trojack are convicted for conspiring to ship impregnated alumina to Iran.

...

March 1998: According to the U.S. government's Iraq Survey Group (I.S.G.), the Iraqi Intelligence Service uses bribes to circumvent customs inspections in Dubai, which is a transshipment point for military equipment being sought from Romania.

...
'
1998 - 2000: Mazyar Gavidel and his company Homa International Trading Corp. violate the U.S. trade embargo against Iran by illegally transferring approximately $2 million of laundered money through Dubai. Gavidel and Homa International are convicted by the U.S. in August 2002.

January 1999: Abu Bakar Siddiqui, a British exporter of Pakistani origin and an alleged procurement agent for A.Q. Khan, allegedly attempts to ship special aluminum sheets to Dubai.

May 1999: British customs authorities reportedly seize up to 20 tons of components, including high-grade aluminum, believed to be ultimately destined for Pakistan. The cargo arrived from the U.S. and was allegedly about to be shipped to Dubai. The exporter is allegedly Siddiqui, who is convicted in the United Kingdom in 2001 for illegally exporting strategic materials to Pakistan, including high-strength aluminum bars.

...

September 2001: The U.A.E.'s Advance Technical Systems purchases $16,000 of military radar components from the U.S. and transships them to Pakistan after declaring that they were for the Bangladeshi Air Force. Following guilty pleas delivered in June 2003 for the illegal export of parts for howitzers, radars and armored personnel carriers, two U.S. citizens and one Pakistani are imprisoned.

October 2001: A U.A.E.-based firm acts as an intermediary to facilitate the trade in ballistic missile-related goods from China to Iraq, according to the I.S.G.

May 2002: The German government warns its exporters that since 1998 Iraq has been increasingly engaging in procurement activities through Dubai. Germany believes that North Korea has also increased its operations in Dubai.


...

October 2003: 66 triggered spark gaps, which can be used to detonate nuclear weapons, are shipped without the required license from the United States to Top-Cape Technology in South Africa. They are subsequently transshipped via Dubai to AJMC Lithographic Aid Society in Pakistan. In 2004 Asher Karni, an Israeli living in South Africa, pleads guilty to conspiring to export controlled commodities to Pakistan without validated export licenses. In 2005 the U.S. indicts Humayun Khan of the Pakistani company Pakland PME for violating export restrictions and being the ultimate purchaser.

October 2003: Five containers of centrifuge components, sent by B.S.A. Tahir and shipped through Dubai, are seized en route to Libya. The items are part of four shipments made by Malaysia's Scomi Precision Engineering (SCOPE) between 2002 and 2003 to Dubai's Aryash Trading Company. One of the four consignments lists the addressee as Gulf Technical Industries, but is diverted to Desert Electrical Equipment Factory, also based in Dubai.

October 2003: According to B.S.A. Tahir, the BBC China, the ship carrying the seized centrifuge components, was also transporting an aluminum casting and dynamo for Libya's centrifuge workshop. The consignment was allegedly sent via Dubai by TUT Shipping on behalf of Gunas Jireh of Turkey.

October 2003: Two weeks after the seizure of the centrifuge components, B.S.A. Tahir arranges the transshipment to Libya, via Dubai, of an electrical cabinet and power supplier-voltage regulator on behalf of Selim Alguadis, an associate of A.Q. Khan.

 

[trenchfoot]

It wouldnt suprise me if the UAE just buys a majority share in whatever company gets control anyway.

agreed.

and, one way or another, the uae will be handsomly compensated for saving the gop alot of bad press>seats in congress.

i wonder what the uae will get with all that newly earned extra leverage they got to pry open the gop coffers with.

 

[Acanthus]

Conjurs story #1: The UAE ties appear to be some administration members used the same hunting retreat as bin laden.... whoopity do.

Conjurs story #2: The UAE govt agencies are "infiltrated" by al AQ, you mean an arabic govt could have AQ operatives infiltrate it?! again whoopity do, that doesnt mean they support terrorism. Also mentions a co-conspirator making a phone call from inside the UAE to give instructions about the Cole bombings... Again what does this have to do with the UAE govt? we had 22 of them living in the US during 9/11 we shouldnt control our own ports either?

Conjurs story #3: dead link

Conjurs story #4: The only story with some merit, dated almost a year ago. If its true, that the royal family actually had meetings with bin laden, then it would be a real terror tie.

Conjurs story #5: Smuggling occurs in the UAE... another sidestep to the actual issue.

The fact is, we would still control our own security services at those ports, so the UAE controlling them doesnt mean a damn thing. Dont you think if it was dubious the Jews, of which whom this entire conflict is over, would have an issue with this? Israels ports are controlled by UAE companies.

This whole flock of BS was a strategic distraction to real issues in the US. Like the patriot act passing yet again while no one was looking.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: conjur
CNN is already kissing the GOP's ass:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/09/port.security/index.html

House Republicans are openly defying the president, apparently to prevent Democrats from outflanking them on national security and outsourcing issues as elections approach.

...

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Illinois, and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, delivered the news to Bush during a meeting Thursday at the White House...Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-California, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, worked with other GOP leaders to amend the spending bill.

Nevermind it was Democrats that raised initial and loud opposition to this deal.

Republicans Save The Day! YIPPEE!!!

:roll:

so who cares that it was the right thing to do?... all you care about is who gets the credit?!

bah... so single-minded you are young grasshopper.

No, I'm pointing out that this was obviously a Rovian operation. It was a political stunt. The GOP has become quite adept at those of late.

please see the link in my sig. 😛

yup
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[conjur]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Conjurs story #1: The UAE ties appear to be some administration members used the same hunting retreat as bin laden.... whoopity do.

Conjurs story #2: The UAE govt agencies are "infiltrated" by al AQ, you mean an arabic govt could have AQ operatives infiltrate it?! again whoopity do, that doesnt mean they support terrorism. Also mentions a co-conspirator making a phone call from inside the UAE to give instructions about the Cole bombings... Again what does this have to do with the UAE govt? we had 22 of them living in the US during 9/11 we shouldnt control our own ports either?

Conjurs story #3: dead link

Conjurs story #4: The only story with some merit, dated almost a year ago. If its true, that the royal family actually had meetings with bin laden, then it would be a real terror tie.

Conjurs story #5: Smuggling occurs in the UAE... another sidestep to the actual issue.

The fact is, we would still control our own security services at those ports, so the UAE controlling them doesnt mean a damn thing. Dont you think if it was dubious the Jews, of which whom this entire conflict is over, would have an issue with this? Israels ports are controlled by UAE companies.

This whole flock of BS was a strategic distraction to real issues in the US. Like the patriot act passing yet again while no one was looking.

Look at the apologist spin!!

So, it's no big deal that Al Qaeda infiltrated the UAE Gov't?!?!


wow.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: conjur