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So are there no scientists that say the opposite in that man made warming isn't enough? I thought there were...
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Ignore the problem and it will go away? Nope. More like the Bush administration is encouraging global warming. Amazing
What happened the last time something like this occured? Were the cavemen burning too much wood or something?![]()
you do realize that in a global warming scenario, the US is more likely it experience a chill due to the atlantic jetstream being shifted away from the coast? well we haven't had an ice age in 10,000 years anyway...
say goodbye to high crop yields.
Admittedly, I was disappointed in the movie but I understand why they distorted the science in that manner. Much of the movie was accurate according to best available science. The Global Conveyor clearly moderates climate by redistributing heat energy from the Equator towards the poles. And clearly the Conveyor is dependent upon higher relative ocean salinities at higher latitudes. The melting of polar ice on a nongeologic time scale could indeed produce a change in the Global Conveyor on a nongeologic time scale . . . certainly not on a Hollywood time scale but still short enough to cause aberrant climate shifts.Originally posted by: assemblage
Not only that, you should watch The Day After Tommorrow and see what'll happen.
Yes, there is a natural cycle to warming and cooling. However, in this case, it appears that humans have accelerated the onset of the warming cycle.Originally posted by: Valvoline6
I don't believe the man made Global Warming senario. The weather goes through cycles. Every time anything happens weatherwise it's always blamed on global warming. Hurricanes- Global Warming, Tornados- Global Warming, Blizzards- Global Warming.
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, there is a natural cycle to warming and cooling. However, in this case, it appears that humans have accelerated the onset of the warming cycle.Originally posted by: Valvoline6
I don't believe the man made Global Warming senario. The weather goes through cycles. Every time anything happens weatherwise it's always blamed on global warming. Hurricanes- Global Warming, Tornados- Global Warming, Blizzards- Global Warming.
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, there is a natural cycle to warming and cooling. However, in this case, it appears that humans have accelerated the onset of the warming cycle.Originally posted by: Valvoline6
I don't believe the man made Global Warming senario. The weather goes through cycles. Every time anything happens weatherwise it's always blamed on global warming. Hurricanes- Global Warming, Tornados- Global Warming, Blizzards- Global Warming.
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, there is a natural cycle to warming and cooling. However, in this case, it appears that humans have accelerated the onset of the warming cycle.Originally posted by: Valvoline6
I don't believe the man made Global Warming senario. The weather goes through cycles. Every time anything happens weatherwise it's always blamed on global warming. Hurricanes- Global Warming, Tornados- Global Warming, Blizzards- Global Warming.
Don't forget the volcanos!
Yes, they are. Go look at the research.Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, there is a natural cycle to warming and cooling. However, in this case, it appears that humans have accelerated the onset of the warming cycle.Originally posted by: Valvoline6
I don't believe the man made Global Warming senario. The weather goes through cycles. Every time anything happens weatherwise it's always blamed on global warming. Hurricanes- Global Warming, Tornados- Global Warming, Blizzards- Global Warming.
I just can't believe this as the temps are not getting warmer every year. Plus the world isn't 10,000 years old![]()
What's Bush doing about bin Laden? Remember, "I'm truly not that concerned about him."Originally posted by: Tylanner
This issue should take a far back seat to the war and OBL and pretty much everything else ATM.
And whos gonna pay for a global warming initiative? US? Yeah probably. You want bush to stop spending, then you suggest actions like this?
Originally posted by: conjur
[]What's Bush doing about bin Laden?
Originally posted by: Yzzim
I didn't read the whole article (except bolded points) but didn't see anything about China in there. Is China going to go along with this report? Are they going to make laws curbing their pollution as well?
I haven't heard anything and was just wondering. If they haven't, then I agree with the Bush administration about losing American jobs. All these laws are making it more expensive for a company to operate in the US.
Originally posted by: conjur
As for global warming, Kyoto had about every other nation on the planet involved. It was and is a global effort that the U.S. disengaged from completely under Bush.
Originally posted by: conjur
As for global warming, Kyoto had about every other nation on the planet involved. It was and is a global effort that the U.S. disengaged from completely under Bush.
That sounds about right. Libs don't like to talk about that though.Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: conjur
As for global warming, Kyoto had about every other nation on the planet involved. It was and is a global effort that the U.S. disengaged from completely under Bush.
IIRC, China was essentially given the same responsibilites as third-world countries. I may be wrong, but I'm sure somebody will correct me quickly if I am.
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Yzzim
I didn't read the whole article (except bolded points) but didn't see anything about China in there. Is China going to go along with this report? Are they going to make laws curbing their pollution as well?
I haven't heard anything and was just wondering. If they haven't, then I agree with the Bush administration about losing American jobs. All these laws are making it more expensive for a company to operate in the US.
But, but... Bush is supposed to do something about the jobs!!! The government owes me a job!
Why *does* China have no responsibility?
Originally posted by: Thera
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Yzzim
I didn't read the whole article (except bolded points) but didn't see anything about China in there. Is China going to go along with this report? Are they going to make laws curbing their pollution as well?
I haven't heard anything and was just wondering. If they haven't, then I agree with the Bush administration about losing American jobs. All these laws are making it more expensive for a company to operate in the US.
But, but... Bush is supposed to do something about the jobs!!! The government owes me a job!
Why *does* China have no responsibility?
China has it's get out jail free card. As long as they can keep stocking Walmart shelves.
Originally posted by: conjur
Hunh? How do you figure that? Or is my sarcasm meter broken?Originally posted by: drewshin
let the market take care of the problem, companies that contribute to global warming will go out of business as consumers decide to switch to other companies. no government intervention needed. the market takes care of all things, large and small. the market is GOD! hee hee
BTW, check out that 2nd link...long article but eye-opening, esp. given the rise of the apparent "Christian Reocnstructionists" into Congress and the Bush administration.
Originally posted by: conjur
What's Bush doing about bin Laden? Remember, "I'm truly not that concerned about him."Originally posted by: Tylanner
This issue should take a far back seat to the war and OBL and pretty much everything else ATM.
And whos gonna pay for a global warming initiative? US? Yeah probably. You want bush to stop spending, then you suggest actions like this?
As for global warming, Kyoto had about every other nation on the planet involved. It was and is a global effort that the U.S. disengaged from completely under Bush.
That's why the Kyoto treaty needed to be modified, not to completely disengage from it.Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
IIRC, China was essentially given the same responsibilites as third-world countries. I may be wrong, but I'm sure somebody will correct me quickly if I am.Originally posted by: conjur
As for global warming, Kyoto had about every other nation on the planet involved. It was and is a global effort that the U.S. disengaged from completely under Bush.
Originally posted by: conjur
That's why the Kyoto treaty needed to be modified, not to completely disengage from it.Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
IIRC, China was essentially given the same responsibilites as third-world countries. I may be wrong, but I'm sure somebody will correct me quickly if I am.Originally posted by: conjur
As for global warming, Kyoto had about every other nation on the planet involved. It was and is a global effort that the U.S. disengaged from completely under Bush.