U.S. Troops Suffer Bloodiest Day In Iraq

[phillyTIM]

This bloody day should send shrills of anger down the back of United States citizens, anger towards Heil Bush and his corrupt Regime of crownies.

The anger should be our call to rise against what Bush had done...sending our kids into an invasion of greed and testosterone-ladden Bush-warmongering against an already-handicapped Iraq that can barely even get some scud missiles off the ground, let alone anything that could possibly even think of hitting the US.

Bush's election was not a vote of confidence in his Iraqi adventure, but a sign that people believe any lies they hear from Bush's mouth.

Let your anger wraught a pesticide of mutiny against the corrupt occupiers of our beloved White House.

 

[raildogg]

Where are Boxer and Kennedy? I havent ever seen them denounce these terrorist attacks on our men and women there.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Bring them home now!

yeah, let's *guarantee* they died in vain.

Don't "bring 'em home now", do what should have been done all along: LEVEL the areas where the insurgents are hiding out, civilians and all. Kill EVERYTHING that walks or crawls and do it after you fly sorties to rain pig blood all over the area. These bastards want to play rough, then let's damn well DO IT and stop this pussy-ass PC "save the civilians" crap. It's just getting more and more of OUR guys killed.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.

Yes, we do have a responsibility to apologize, leave, and stop creating more mess.

No, we have a responsibility to KILL every terrorist, every insurgent, every nutjob islamic fundamentalist who thinks it's "God's will" to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people who dare to DISAGREE as to the nature of the invisible man in the sky!

COWARDICE is not the answer.

Jason

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.

Yes, we do have a responsibility to apologize, leave, and stop creating more mess.

No, we have a responsibility to KILL every terrorist, every insurgent, every nutjob islamic fundamentalist who thinks it's "God's will" to strap a bomb to himself and blow up people who dare to DISAGREE as to the nature of the invisible man in the sky!

COWARDICE is not the answer.

Jason

Greatly said. Agree with everything :thumbsup:

We have to kill each one of the Islamist fascists

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: irwincur

What good are we doing there? Seems we're in a Catch-22.

Giving the people the opportunity to shape their own lives. I guess a liberal socialist just wouldn't understand the power of personal freedoms.

No, Irwin, they UNDERSTAND, it's that they think Personal Freedom is immoral and against the "good of society."

Of course, that they're INSANE never enters their little minds...

Jason

 

[phillyTIM]

we certainly never gave a damn about innocent citizens, or the beloved iraqi heritage & artifacts, with our "shock and awe" strategy that killed over 100,000 iraqis so far, when all bush wanted to get was 3 men (hussein & his sons).

we care s##t about those iraqi citizens, bush is consummed with greed for his oil.

let the blood of all our innocent dead soldiers be forced down bush's throat

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: raildogg
In WW2, Korea and Vietnam we lost far more men. Sure every death is very tragic, but we cant leave Iraq like this.

True. At this point we're still hovering at only the 1% rate for soldier's killed in battle. In Vietnam we had periods where we lost more in a MONTH than we have in the 2 years since we invaded Iraq. In WWII there were HOURS where we lost more men.

Jason

 

[cannedcreamcorn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.

And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.

Oh right, so there are only 300 amputations of wounded from Iraq? I don't see those numbers being questioned by anything other than your assertion.

And the Reuters reporters that found American soldiers who were wounded, airlifted to Germany and then died never showed up on the official death toll were completely wrong too? I'm sure you can reply telling me how "completely wrong" I am again and make it all better.

 

[phillyTIM]

the almighty US should not be losing a single life per month, with all the technology we have

its ludicrous that our boys are dying because bush/rumsfeld wanted a CHEAP-financed invasion... THAT is the problem.

 

[cannedcreamcorn]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Bring them home now!

yeah, let's *guarantee* they died in vain.

Don't "bring 'em home now", do what should have been done all along: LEVEL the areas where the insurgents are hiding out, civilians and all. Kill EVERYTHING that walks or crawls and do it after you fly sorties to rain pig blood all over the area. These bastards want to play rough, then let's damn well DO IT and stop this pussy-ass PC "save the civilians" crap. It's just getting more and more of OUR guys killed.

Jason

They already died in vain. No WMDs, no Democracy, no electricity and eternal warfare. What has to happen now is we have to STOP more deaths for what is one big war crime perpetuated by our Imperial administration.

And your solution is so vicious and completely undermining to any hope of stability in Iraq that it borders on the pathlogical. But I do love how the psychopaths are so easily brought out of the woodwork once we begin bombing someone.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.

And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.

Oh right, so there are only 300 amputations of wounded from Iraq? I don't see those numbers being questioned by anything other than your assertion.

And the Reuters reporters that found American soldiers who were wounded, airlifted to Germany and then died never showed up on the official death toll were completely wrong too? I'm sure you can reply telling me how "completely wrong" I am again and make it all better.

linkage

The numbers are discussed and verifed in this thread.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
the almighty US should not be losing a single life per month, with all the technology we have

its ludicrous that our boys are dying because bush/rumsfeld wanted a CHEAP-financed invasion... THAT is the problem.

When your at war, you will lose life.

 

[cannedcreamcorn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.

And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.

Oh right, so there are only 300 amputations of wounded from Iraq? I don't see those numbers being questioned by anything other than your assertion.

And the Reuters reporters that found American soldiers who were wounded, airlifted to Germany and then died never showed up on the official death toll were completely wrong too? I'm sure you can reply telling me how "completely wrong" I am again and make it all better.

linkage

The numbers are discussed and verifed in this thread.

Hey thanks for linking to a 6 page thread with only 2 relevant links that were throughly outdated. I'll have to remember that trick for quickly dismissing any statistics I don't like.

And I based my information on this article as well as many others that have begun to do analysis of casualty rates. The VA has estimated that 26,633 casualties needing their services have occured in Iraq. That was from April of last year. The 3000 amputees number was from a Ramstein AFB surgeon claiming that he had seen over 10000 casualties and 3000 amputations since the beginning of the war.

What I find repugnant is that anyone would stoop so low as to deny that all these men made a sacrifice of blood to do what they had originally believed in: protecting this country. Its even more repugnant that this war has made us anything BUT safe.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.

And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.

Oh right, so there are only 300 amputations of wounded from Iraq? I don't see those numbers being questioned by anything other than your assertion.

And the Reuters reporters that found American soldiers who were wounded, airlifted to Germany and then died never showed up on the official death toll were completely wrong too? I'm sure you can reply telling me how "completely wrong" I am again and make it all better.

linkage

The numbers are discussed and verifed in this thread.

Hey thanks for linking to a 6 page thread with only 2 relevant links that were throughly outdated. I'll have to remember that trick for quickly dismissing any statistics I don't like.

And I based my information on this article as well as many others that have begun to do analysis of casualty rates. The VA has estimated that 26,633 casualties needing their services have occured in Iraq. That was from April of last year. The 3000 amputees number was from a Ramstein AFB surgeon claiming that he had seen over 10000 casualties and 3000 amputations since the beginning of the war.

What I find repugnant is that anyone would stoop so low as to deny that all these men made a sacrifice of blood to do what they had originally believed in: protecting this country. Its even more repugnant that this war has made us anything BUT safe.

dec 1,2004 2.4% amputation rate

updated weekly or so, about 22,000 casualties

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
the almighty US should not be losing a single life per month, with all the technology we have

its ludicrous that our boys are dying because bush/rumsfeld wanted a CHEAP-financed invasion... THAT is the problem.

:thumbsup:

 

[cannedcreamcorn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.

And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.

Oh right, so there are only 300 amputations of wounded from Iraq? I don't see those numbers being questioned by anything other than your assertion.

And the Reuters reporters that found American soldiers who were wounded, airlifted to Germany and then died never showed up on the official death toll were completely wrong too? I'm sure you can reply telling me how "completely wrong" I am again and make it all better.

linkage

The numbers are discussed and verifed in this thread.

Hey thanks for linking to a 6 page thread with only 2 relevant links that were throughly outdated. I'll have to remember that trick for quickly dismissing any statistics I don't like.

And I based my information on this article as well as many others that have begun to do analysis of casualty rates. The VA has estimated that 26,633 casualties needing their services have occured in Iraq. That was from April of last year. The 3000 amputees number was from a Ramstein AFB surgeon claiming that he had seen over 10000 casualties and 3000 amputations since the beginning of the war.

What I find repugnant is that anyone would stoop so low as to deny that all these men made a sacrifice of blood to do what they had originally believed in: protecting this country. Its even more repugnant that this war has made us anything BUT safe.

dec 1,2004 1.2% amputation rate

updated weekly or so, about 22,000 casualties

Wait, you say a 1.2% amputation rate, but the article states a 2.4% rate, more than twice that of WWI and II. And you give me a 22000 casualty rate but the Post article say 9800. The VA was lying about their wounded claims? So what is it?

The US Military would NEVER conceal casualty rates to make the war look better. I mean no one can say that they would ever hide the rates, huh?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.

And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.

Oh right, so there are only 300 amputations of wounded from Iraq? I don't see those numbers being questioned by anything other than your assertion.

And the Reuters reporters that found American soldiers who were wounded, airlifted to Germany and then died never showed up on the official death toll were completely wrong too? I'm sure you can reply telling me how "completely wrong" I am again and make it all better.

linkage

The numbers are discussed and verifed in this thread.

Hey thanks for linking to a 6 page thread with only 2 relevant links that were throughly outdated. I'll have to remember that trick for quickly dismissing any statistics I don't like.

And I based my information on this article as well as many others that have begun to do analysis of casualty rates. The VA has estimated that 26,633 casualties needing their services have occured in Iraq. That was from April of last year. The 3000 amputees number was from a Ramstein AFB surgeon claiming that he had seen over 10000 casualties and 3000 amputations since the beginning of the war.

What I find repugnant is that anyone would stoop so low as to deny that all these men made a sacrifice of blood to do what they had originally believed in: protecting this country. Its even more repugnant that this war has made us anything BUT safe.

dec 1,2004 1.2% amputation rate

updated weekly or so, about 22,000 casualties

Wait, you say a 1.2% amputation rate, but the article states a 2.4% rate, more than twice that of WWI and II. And you give me a 22000 casualty rate but the Post article say 9800. The VA was lying about their wounded claims? So what is it?

typo on the 1.2. 22,000 includes combat and nonbat casuallties

 

[cannedcreamcorn]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Wait, you say a 1.2% amputation rate, but the article states a 2.4% rate, more than twice that of WWI and II. And you give me a 22000 casualty rate but the Post article say 9800. The VA was lying about their wounded claims? So what is it?

typo on the 1.2. 22,000 includes combat and nonbat casuallties

Well I'll just ignore your sources just as you ignore mine. Boy that makes things real easy now! Now I don't have to answer any questions regarding the imbalance of casualty figures from different Government sources nor the fact that the Pentagon has been very reluctant to address casualty figures directly.

There is really no good way to add up the real rate until the war is over, considering that the Pentagon has tried several tricks to hide the true numbers of casualties in Iraq. I do think that the real rate is not fully disclosed, and your continual (and our Government 's) attempts to downplay the numbers of dead and maimed Americans is rather appaling. Do these soldier's sacrifices mean so little to the bushistas?

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Where are Boxer and Kennedy? I havent ever seen them denounce these terrorist attacks on our men and women there.

Right, now we're questioning the patriotism of the opposition. How long before the camps open. Your a vile person for thinking that because they don't give Bush a blank check to destroy America they are unpatriotic. That's what this nation needs, someone to stand up to the cowboys currently running this country.

 

[Gaard]

It's shameful what our president has caused.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn

Wait, you say a 1.2% amputation rate, but the article states a 2.4% rate, more than twice that of WWI and II. And you give me a 22000 casualty rate but the Post article say 9800. The VA was lying about their wounded claims? So what is it?

typo on the 1.2. 22,000 includes combat and nonbat casuallties

Well I'll just ignore your sources just as you ignore mine. Boy that makes things real easy now! Now I don't have to answer any questions regarding the imbalance of casualty figures from different Government sources nor the fact that the Pentagon has been very reluctant to address casualty figures directly.

There is really no good way to add up the real rate until the war is over, considering that the Pentagon has tried several tricks to hide the true numbers of casualties in Iraq. I do think that the real rate is not fully disclosed, and your continual (and our Government 's) attempts to downplay the numbers of dead and maimed Americans is rather appaling. Do these soldier's sacrifices mean so little to the bushistas?

It looks like those were reported casuallties.....

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
[ ... ]

What a sad waste of lives.

EDIT: Now 37 dead. Another soldier died from an insurgent attack.

 

[nick1985]

shouldnt you be happy jpeyton?

afterall, you have clearly stated your support for the iraqi insurgants

 

[conehead433]

But how could anyone die for this BS, especially after Dubya so boldly proclaimed 'Mission Accomplished!'.