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U.S. Troops Suffer Bloodiest Day In Iraq

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By Matt Spetalnick

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Thirty-one U.S. troops were reported killed in a helicopter crash and five more died in insurgent attacks Wednesday in the deadliest day for American forces since they invaded Iraq (news - web sites) 22 months ago.

The heavy U.S. toll came amid a series of guerrilla bombings and raids that killed 10 Iraqis in a campaign to sabotage Sunday's landmark election -- a cornerstone of U.S. plans in Iraq.

CNN, quoting the U.S. military, reported 31 Marines died when their transport helicopter went down in the deserts of the restive Anbar province of western Iraq.

The military confirmed casualties to reporters but gave no figures, as search and rescue teams scoured the area. The cause of the crash was not immediately known.

Four U.S. Marines were killed in action in Anbar province, and an American soldier was killed in a rocket-propelled grenade attack north of Baghdad, U.S. officials said.

The latest surge of insurgent attacks appeared aimed at sowing panic even as the U.S.-backed interim government vowed stringent measures to safeguard the election, Iraq's first since the fall of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) in April 2003.

In a closely coordinated attack, three suicide car bombers hit the town of Riyadh, a Sunni Arab area southwest of the northern city of Kirkuk.

Two explosives-laden cars blew up simultaneously close to an Iraqi army post and police station and a third vehicle detonated minutes later on a nearby highway, a local police chief said.

Four Iraqi policemen, two Iraqi soldiers and three civilians were killed, and at least 12 people were wounded, police said.

Shortly after the blasts, a U.S. combat patrol heading to the scene came under small arms fire and two U.S. soldiers were lightly wounded, the military said.

The previous deadliest day for U.S. forces was March 23, 2003, the third day of the war, when 28 U.S. soldiers died mostly in fierce fighting in southern Iraq.

STRING OF ATTACKS

Police in Baquba, a mixed Shi'ite and Sunni town 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad, said one Iraqi policeman was killed and at least eight people were wounded when gunmen fired on the local offices of three parties contesting the polls.

Sunni insurgents have repeatedly targeted the country's fledgling security forces in the countdown to the election, accusing them of collaborating with U.S.-led occupiers.

Iraq's Shi'ite majority is expected to dominate the vote after decades of rule by Saddam's Sunni minority.

In the northern city of Mosul, a rebel stronghold that has seen persistent violence, a video filmed by insurgents showed three Iraqi men who had apparently been taken hostage and who said they worked for Iraq's electoral commission in the city.

On the video, a hooded insurgent carrying a pistol read out a statement as another masked guerrilla crouched with a rocket-propelled grenade launcher on his shoulder.

"We are mujahideen in the province of Nineveh. What they call elections have no basis in the Islamic religion and that's why we will hit all election centers," the statement said.

Several guerrilla groups in Iraq -- including militants loyal to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda's leader in the country -- have declared war on Sunday's elections, vowing to attack polling stations and kill those who dare to vote.

The government plans extraordinary security measures, including closing Baghdad airport and land borders over the election period, extending night curfews in cities and banning cars from roads on election day.

Zarqawi, a Jordanian with a $25 million bounty on his head, says the election is a plot by Washington and Iraqi Shi'ite allies against Sunni Arabs, who now fear being marginalised.

Iraq's Shi'ites, oppressed under Saddam, strongly support the elections. A list of candidates dominated by Shi'ite Islamists and drawn up with the guidance of revered cleric Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani is expected to win the most votes, cementing the newfound political power of Shi'ites.

But many Sunni Arab parties will boycott the polls, saying the insurgency raging in Iraq's Sunni heartlands will prevent their supporters from voting and skew the results.

Tension between Shi'ite and Sunni Arabs has been stoked by a series of bomb attacks on Shi'ite targets, raising fears of sectarian conflict.

Insurgents have also assassinated several leading officials. Tuesday a top Baghdad judge was killed along with his son in an ambush as they left home during morning rush hour.

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What a sad waste of lives.

EDIT: Now 37 dead. Another soldier died from an insurgent attack.
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I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.
What good are we doing there? Seems we're in a Catch-22.

If we leave, a security vacuum will exist and insurgents will have a field day. Terror cells will thrive.

If we stay, we remain the target of attacks and remain a cause for unrest in the country.
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.

Yes, we do have a responsibility to apologize, leave, and stop creating more mess.
 
What good are we doing there? Seems we're in a Catch-22.

Giving the people the opportunity to shape their own lives. I guess a liberal socialist just wouldn't understand the power of personal freedoms.
 
Yes, we do have a responsibility to apologize, leave, and stop creating more mess

Leaving now will create more of a mess.

I hate it when we lose servicemen but it sounds like the helicopter may have went down from non-combat activities.

On avg nearly 1500 men die a year in the armed services from non-combat incidents.
 
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we do have a responsibility to apologize, leave, and stop creating more mess

Leaving now will create more of a mess.

I hate it when we lose servicemen but it sounds like the helicopter may have went down from non-combat activities.

On avg nearly 1500 men die a year in the armed services from non-combat incidents.

1500 a year in normal operations? sounds like bs if you ask me.
 
1500 a year in normal operations? sounds like bs if you ask me

Why? We have a standing military is 1.4 million people. 1500 = .01% of the population being killed from disease, accidents like the above, DWIs ect.

Compare it to the avg population. Remember being in the military is a very hazerdous job. Jumping out of helicopters, planes, firing munitions ect.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
1500 a year in normal operations? sounds like bs if you ask me

Why? We have a standing military is nearly over 1 million people. 1500 = .015% of the population being killed from disease, accidents like the above, DWIs ect.

Compare it to the avg population. Remember being in the military is a very hazerdous job. Jumping out of helicopters, planes, firing munitions ect.

bah i read 15000, wasn't thinking clearly. Either way it still seems high, but i supose if you include disease i can believe that.

btw 1500/1.000.000 is .15%, not .015%
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.

WE? WE? I didn't vote for any war criminals either of the past 2 election cycles.
For anyone who watched the Frontline last night, how'd ya sleep? Bush has destroyed America.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
1500 a year in normal operations? sounds like bs if you ask me

Why? We have a standing military is 1.4 million people. 1500 = .01% of the population being killed from disease, accidents like the above, DWIs ect.

Compare it to the avg population. Remember being in the military is a very hazerdous job. Jumping out of helicopters, planes, firing munitions ect.




Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I am glad most Americans don't share your view about shirking all responsibility for the mess we have created.

Thank you for you honesty and admitting this is our mess to clean up. Too bad the people resposible for the mess get to sit in their armchairs and push buttons while our young men and women pay the price.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
What good are we doing there? Seems we're in a Catch-22.

Giving the people the opportunity to shape their own lives. I guess a liberal socialist just wouldn't understand the power of personal freedoms.

Keep trying to spin it all back to freedom, irwincur. Maybe someday even YOU will believe that tired old line. How about giving our young men and women that same chance? Give each and every one of them the option to stay in Iraq and give the Iraqis their "freedom" or let them come home with honorable discharges. You and your Bush buddies can pick up the slack from the skeleton crew left behind. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
What good are we doing there? Seems we're in a Catch-22.
Giving the people the opportunity to shape their own lives. I guess a liberal socialist just wouldn't understand the power of personal freedoms.
You believe the crap being fed to us by this administration? Shameful.

BTW, you're calling me a liberal socialist? How mighty narrow-minded of you. Congratulations on being 100% wrong.
 
Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.



And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?
 
And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

What reply should I give if you cant comprehend what I wrote?

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?

What reply should I give if you cant comprehend what I wrote?



Ummm...my post was completely on topic. In this thread about more US deaths in Iraq you stated.....

On avg nearly 1500 men die a year in the armed services from non-combat incidents.


So how does this statement NOT denigrate the loss of more American soldiers in a war zone. I'm supposed to feel OK about this because it was an "accident"? And I haven't seen any official reports of what caused this crash. Even if it was an accident, the fact that they were in a war zone that is so hot even civilian aircraft have to worry about ground fire pretty much illustrates that the danger to aircraft exists just from the FEAR of being shot down. Naw, I'm sure those Marines felt totally safe and never feared being lit up by SA-7s or RPGs.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
What good are we doing there? Seems we're in a Catch-22.

Giving the people the opportunity to shape their own lives. I guess a liberal socialist just wouldn't understand the power of personal freedoms.

"Our way or the highway BITCHES!"

Yep, that's the way to show em freedom--at gunpoint! The love us for that!

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Originally posted by: cannedcreamcorn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Ahh, bushista justification for mutilating American soldiers for no good reason. What about the 20000 wounded and 3000 amputations that have taken place? Is that normal during peacetime? You do know that the official Iraq casuality rate does NOT include accidents.

You missed the point, not surprising though.



And do you have to disparage the intelligence of a poster when you can't come up with a intelligent reply to someone's statement?



When the numbers he quotes for amputations are inflated by 10X, the poster probably deserves some disparaging. Actually nothing in his post is correct. All casuallties are reported.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
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Bring them home now!

Yeah, bring them home now that elections are a week away and that we are closer than ever to getting the Iraqi govt standing on their own 2 feet. That'd be just genious, waste the lives of the ones that died today.
 
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