U.S. troops criticized for parading naked Iraqis

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etech

Lifer
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Originally posted by: calbear2000
Imagine the uproar here if this was done to American POW's...

It wasn't Iraqi POW's. It was Iraqi looters. The looters that people have been clamoring about the US not doing enough to stop.

 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: calbear2000
Imagine the uproar here if this was done to American POW's...

It wasn't Iraqi POW's. It was Iraqi looters. The looters that people have been clamoring about the US not doing enough to stop.

The punishment of a looter should be more humiliating than the punishment of a hostile invader?
 

etech

Lifer
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calbear2000

The punishment of a looter should be more humiliating than the punishment of a hostile invader?

Why shouldn't looters be humiliated?

Who are the hostile invaders you are referring to?
 

apoppin

Lifer
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alienbabeltech.com
The original article with pics (it's small, thankfully)
The Geneva Convention states: "Protected persons are entitled to respect.

"They shall at all times be humanely treated, and shall be protected against insults."

:p

:Q

Looks pretty "insulting" to me. Maybe the US officer who ordered this likes to look at naked boys . . .

rolleye.gif
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
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Would have been a lot more interesting if they had paraded around some naked Dixie Chicks.
 

apoppin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Would have been a lot more interesting if they had paraded around some naked Dixie Chicks.
But then I'd want better and bigger PICS. :D

I guess this is the first time I ever agreed with you. :p

rolleye.gif

 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
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Apoppin -

You've agreed with me before, but it was on hardware issues, not politics.

It never ceases to amaze me that millions and millions of dollars has been spent on the technology that
allowed Al Gore to invent the Internet, just so we can sit around and bitch at each other in cyberspace.
 

jjones

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

It never ceases to amaze me that millions and millions of dollars has been spent on the technology that
allowed Al Gore to invent the Internet, just so we can sit around and bitch at each other in cyberspace.
LOL, that is funny in so many ways. :D

 

EXman

Lifer
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Guess that is a good detterant for Ali Babbas... embarrassing yes but they will live.

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

It never ceases to amaze me that millions and millions of dollars has been spent on the technology that
allowed Al Gore to invent the Internet, just so we can sit around and bitch at each other in cyberspace.
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LOL, that is funny in so many ways.

Yes that is very Quotable

 

apoppin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Apoppin -

You've agreed with me before, but it was on hardware issues, not politics.

It never ceases to amaze me that millions and millions of dollars has been spent on the technology that
allowed Al Gore to invent the Internet, just so we can sit around and bitch at each other in cyberspace.
Sorry for not being clearer . . . "here", of course.

And now we agree again . . .

. . . will wonders never cease?

rolleye.gif


:D

 

Squisher

Lifer
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Originally posted by: apoppin
The original article with pics (it's small, thankfully)
The Geneva Convention states: "Protected persons are entitled to respect.

"They shall at all times be humanely treated, and shall be protected against insults."

:p

:Q

Looks pretty "insulting" to me. Maybe the US officer who ordered this likes to look at naked boys . . .

rolleye.gif

Would the Geneva Convention apply here?

Would they be considered Prisoners of War or even arrested or simply in custody by Marshall Law?


 

konichiwa

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: konichiwa
What a display of intelligence. Everyone jumps on al-Jazeera for displaying images of well-treated POW's, but at the same time, you advocate "cutting off" the hands of Iraqi prisoners and "parading them naked thru the streets"

Heh

"""well-treated POW's"""


Which POW's are you speaking of?

The ones that were lying dead on the floor that looked to have been shot in their heads, of the one's forced to speak to cameras and microphones?

Well if they're dead they can't be POW's, can they? Furthermore, your expert opinion that they looked to have been shot in the head has no bearing for two reasons: a) it's your expert opinion and b) they could get shot in the head in battle.

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.
 

konichiwa

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: konichiwa
What a display of intelligence. Everyone jumps on al-Jazeera for displaying images of well-treated POW's, but at the same time, you advocate "cutting off" the hands of Iraqi prisoners and "parading them naked thru the streets"

Heh

Would you prefer the Hussein way? Raping them, cutting off their head and leaving it on the door step of their families....

don't know about you, but I'd rather streak and retain all of my anatomy any day.

I'd rather be executed than raped and beheaded. Does that mean it's okay for soldiers to do that to Iraqis too?

Fabulous argument, I almost mistook you for Sophocles. Next?
 

etech

Lifer
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konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.
 

konichiwa

Lifer
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Originally posted by: etech
konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.

Well if you can condense their entire life into a few words ("no shame or morals") then what use do we have for them? May as well kill them on the spot.
 

etech

Lifer
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Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.

Well if you can condense their entire life into a few words ("no shame or morals") then what use do we have for them? May as well kill them on the spot.


Don't be so stupid konichiwa.
 

konichiwa

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.

Well if you can condense their entire life into a few words ("no shame or morals") then what use do we have for them? May as well kill them on the spot.


Don't be so stupid konichiwa.

Ah, another etech gem. Let me write that down.
 

etech

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.

Well if you can condense their entire life into a few words ("no shame or morals") then what use do we have for them? May as well kill them on the spot.


Don't be so stupid konichiwa.

Ah, another etech gem. Let me write that down.

konichiwa, that was all that your reply deserved. If you need it explained than so be it.

The people that were humiliated were looters. They were stealing from the other Iraqis. Perhaps you think they have high honor and morals, I don't. The public humiliation is a tactic that will slow down the looting. Is it a perfect method? Probably not, but the chances are good that it will be effective given the culture of the region.

Would you care to give alternatives to the option being tried? If not, you are just whining.

 

Bowfinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.

Well if you can condense their entire life into a few words ("no shame or morals") then what use do we have for them? May as well kill them on the spot.


Don't be so stupid konichiwa.

Ah, another etech gem. Let me write that down.

konichiwa, that was all that your reply deserved. If you need it explained than so be it.

The people that were humiliated were looters. They were stealing from the other Iraqis. Perhaps you think they have high honor and morals, I don't. The public humiliation is a tactic that will slow down the looting. Is it a perfect method? Probably not, but the chances are good that it will be effective given the culture of the region.

Would you care to give alternatives to the option being tried? If not, you are just whining.

How long have you two been married?
 

konichiwa

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: etech
konichiwa

Anyway, I was speaking of the ones being "forced to speak to cameras and microphones." I just can't understand how you seem to be so irked by this but the parading of naked Iraqis through the streets is perfectly acceptable.

That's naked Iraqi LOOTERS. The ones with no shame or morals that are taking advantage of the situation to loot and steal from other Iraqis.

Well if you can condense their entire life into a few words ("no shame or morals") then what use do we have for them? May as well kill them on the spot.


Don't be so stupid konichiwa.

Ah, another etech gem. Let me write that down.

konichiwa, that was all that your reply deserved. If you need it explained than so be it.

The people that were humiliated were looters. They were stealing from the other Iraqis. Perhaps you think they have high honor and morals, I don't. The public humiliation is a tactic that will slow down the looting. Is it a perfect method? Probably not, but the chances are good that it will be effective given the culture of the region.

Would you care to give alternatives to the option being tried? If not, you are just whining.

Believe it or not, criminals have rights too. Just because you may believe that one mistake can represent the entirety of ones' character (I certainly hope not, I've made some pretty grave mistakes myself) doesn't mean that they should be punished as if it does. To categorically dehumanize them just because they're looters is ludicrous. Ever heard of jail, or a fine?
 

etech

Lifer
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konichiwa

Believe it or not, criminals have rights too. Just because you may believe that one mistake can represent the entirety of ones' character (I certainly hope not, I've made some pretty grave mistakes myself) doesn't mean that they should be punished as if it does. To categorically dehumanize them just because they're looters is ludicrous. Ever heard of jail, or a fine?

Jail or fines? Try reading up on the situation as it is now in Iraq. You bore me with you lack of knowledge of the situation.