"The truck driver, Carlos Ibarra, 39, of Tijuana, was arrested, the statement said."
He's fvcked.
He's fvcked.
at $20 an eighth it would be $44,800,000
at $700/lb (cheap) it would be $14,000,000
So if they say that it's only worth $9 mil then it must have been some horrid stuff, or they weren't talking about street price.
at $700/lb (cheap) it would be $14,000,000
So if they say that it's only worth $9 mil then it must have been some horrid stuff, or they weren't talking about street price.
"This is a huge seizure," said Michael Turner, special agent in charge of the U.S. Customs office of investigations in San Diego. "Any time we can prevent 10 tons of narcotics from entering the streets of America it's a great day for the U.S. Customs Service."
nar·cot·ic Audio pronunciation of narcotic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (när-ktk)
n.
1. An addictive drug, such as opium, that reduces pain, alters mood and behavior, and usually induces sleep or stupor. Natural and synthetic narcotics are used in medicine to control pain.
2. A soothing, numbing agent or thing: ?There was the blessed narcotic of bridge, at the Colony or at the home of friends? (Louis Auchincloss).
Heroin, codiene, morphine, a couple others whos names slip my mind, are also narcotics - pot is not a narcotic.
nar·cot·ic Audio pronunciation of narcotic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (när-ktk)
n.
1. An addictive drug, such as opium, that reduces pain, alters mood and behavior, and usually induces sleep or stupor. Natural and synthetic narcotics are used in medicine to control pain.
2. A soothing, numbing agent or thing: ?There was the blessed narcotic of bridge, at the Colony or at the home of friends? (Louis Auchincloss).
Heroin, codiene, morphine, a couple others whos names slip my mind, are also narcotics - pot is not a narcotic.
think about it, when you're buying eigths, it's more expensive then if you're buying oz's, or pounds. Same deal I would assume applies with tons. @ 1 ton, the price per pound will be more than @ 10 tons. I never liked Mexican shwag, gave me a headache after an hour, it sucked.
Right, that's what I mean by saying that they must not be talking street price, since the total price at eighths vs. the total price at pounds or tons is going to be a huge difference because of all the people in between who make money.
I don't know that any mexican pot makes its way up to iowa, if it does, I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of smoking it, I guess I'm not missing out
I read in an Hell's Angels book that A kilo of BC bud can be swapped for a kilo of Cocaine buy Angels in Canada to Angels in the states.
I don't know how much a kilo of cocaine is worth though?
Cheers,
Aquaman
I don't know how much a kilo of cocaine is worth though?
Cheers,
Aquaman
Dunno, but figure an 8 ball is like $150 I believe, that's 4 grams, you do the math
4 grams $150
400 grams $15000
1000 grams $37500
although when you buy alot it would be cheaper, so a kilo of cocaine is probably ten k? No idea really, I'm no cokehead
edit: do canadians measure weed in kilos?
edit: bad math
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Dunno, but figure an 8 ball is like $150 I believe, that's 4 grams, you do the math
4 grams $150
400 grams $1500
1000 grams $3750
although when you buy alot it would be cheaper, so a kilo of cocaine is probably a couple thousand? No idea really, I'm no cokehead
edit: do canadians measure weed in kilos?
for drug bust purposes they do
You always here oh 100 kilo or 1000 killo MJ shippment was busted today.
Cheers,
Aquaman
Narcotics has evolved to include any illicit street drug, although a literal definition seems to suggest otherwise.
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Dunno, but figure an 8 ball is like $150 I believe, that's 4 grams, you do the math
4 grams $150
400 grams $1500
1000 grams $3750
although when you buy alot it would be cheaper, so a kilo of cocaine is probably a couple thousand? No idea really, I'm no cokehead
edit: do canadians measure weed in kilos?
for drug bust purposes they do
You always here oh 100 kilo or 1000 killo MJ shippment was busted today.
Cheers,
Aquaman
Hm, there was a big pot bust in my area recently, they measured it in pounds.
Yeah, police, politicians, etc use it in a way which is incorrect when you look at the medical definition, but now, "narcotic" just basically means "drug" to most people. Why don't they just say "drug"? Big words make you sound professional I suppose. Gotta impress the masses!
Up north the government is considering decriminalizing the stuff (MJ).
I kind of don't want them too because it going to be a real pain in the ass to get into the US then (that is unnless the US also decriminalizes it, which will not happen for a long time).
Cheers,
Aquaman
I kind of don't want them too because it going to be a real pain in the ass to get into the US then (that is unnless the US also decriminalizes it, which will not happen for a long time).
Cheers,
Aquaman
No. Narcotics has been the terminology for illicit drugs since the 20's and 30's before our war on drugs had publicity.
You had the narcotics control acts in the early 1900's and then further acts that lead to the first agency to manage drugs. The first agency specifically to fight drugs was the Bureau of Narcotics. Things evolved from that and that is why illicit drugs are commonly referred to as narcotics. Did you ever think to research something first before you called it stupid or decried it as a result of the war on drugs?
Using the term "narcotic" for pot (or amphetamines) is still unnecessary and confusing. Narcotic implies a certain class of drugs, namely opioids. If you have gotten prescriptions from the doctor you would know that. It shouldn't be necessary to differentiate between the medical terms and the "stupid-man law enforcement" term.
the war on drugs causes more harm than good imho.
People say "ooh that 10 tons is going to make a big dent in the drug trafficking world"
there is no current action currently that will stop the drug trade 100%, i think most of us can agree to that, that you will never stop it. So drug cartel/manufacturers know that a certain percentage of all their major wholesale shipments into the US will be seized, lets say 10%, so if they send out 10 container trucks, odds are that between 1-2 will be caught through 'normal' current procedures at customs, unless of course they are ratted out by someone close to the cartel, that tips off the feds and all 10 of the shipments are seized, then they are pissed. So when doing a 10 load shipment, the cost of the merchandise has allready been taken into account that 1-2 shipments will be lost. But seriously, this seems like a big load, and it probably is, but i'll bet you that the loss of that container was calculated and taken into account in whatever the final grand shipment was.
so what htey have basically accomplished in the short term is successfully rising the streetprice of weed in the greater west coast area, to which that shipment MAY have been destined for, to be distributed, and will only increase the crime rate for the people who buy the drugs in order to get the cash that they need.
the whole entire war on drugs is dumb. Dont get me wrong, people who do hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, acid etc... arnt that intelligent either or lack will power/low self esteem or any other reason why people do drugs....
but untill they are able to reduce the price of these drugs from 40,000 dollars for a kilo of cocaine to 400 dollars or even 40 dollars, the only people who win are the drug dealers who get a bigger percentage of their profit.
Just like oil companies jackin gas prices cuz supplies from venezuela are slow, or the war in iraq etc... up goes the price at the pump the next day, and we all moan etc... while the oil companies jack it up for a legitimate reason but can tack on 1 or 2 more cents at the same time...
invasion of columbia to stamp out the drug cartels will never be 100% effective, and will only result in an increase of the price of the drug.
the real cost of the war on drugs is the wasted tax dollars punishing the users by tying up police and court systems to incarcerate "petty" criminals in an effort to deter them from somthing that is addictive.
the only way to stop the war on drugs is if you were able to taint an extremely large portion of the drugs (say cocaine) with a chemical that will kill instantly... how many people snort up cocaine in a day? imagine if they all died, then the following day, same amount, then the 3rd day it would probably drop a bit as news coverage hits up...then everyone will be afraid of snorting coke cuz there is a bad batch or somthing... then who knows what theyw ill do, probably jump to another drug... <shrug> i dont have all answers... i just dont think you can win this, and the effort they are putting into it now, has very very very little consequence in the long term big picture.
these are just some random thoughts ive had on the war on drugs, in no way am i expert or have all the answers. Just my thoughts.
People say "ooh that 10 tons is going to make a big dent in the drug trafficking world"
there is no current action currently that will stop the drug trade 100%, i think most of us can agree to that, that you will never stop it. So drug cartel/manufacturers know that a certain percentage of all their major wholesale shipments into the US will be seized, lets say 10%, so if they send out 10 container trucks, odds are that between 1-2 will be caught through 'normal' current procedures at customs, unless of course they are ratted out by someone close to the cartel, that tips off the feds and all 10 of the shipments are seized, then they are pissed. So when doing a 10 load shipment, the cost of the merchandise has allready been taken into account that 1-2 shipments will be lost. But seriously, this seems like a big load, and it probably is, but i'll bet you that the loss of that container was calculated and taken into account in whatever the final grand shipment was.
so what htey have basically accomplished in the short term is successfully rising the streetprice of weed in the greater west coast area, to which that shipment MAY have been destined for, to be distributed, and will only increase the crime rate for the people who buy the drugs in order to get the cash that they need.
the whole entire war on drugs is dumb. Dont get me wrong, people who do hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, acid etc... arnt that intelligent either or lack will power/low self esteem or any other reason why people do drugs....
but untill they are able to reduce the price of these drugs from 40,000 dollars for a kilo of cocaine to 400 dollars or even 40 dollars, the only people who win are the drug dealers who get a bigger percentage of their profit.
Just like oil companies jackin gas prices cuz supplies from venezuela are slow, or the war in iraq etc... up goes the price at the pump the next day, and we all moan etc... while the oil companies jack it up for a legitimate reason but can tack on 1 or 2 more cents at the same time...
invasion of columbia to stamp out the drug cartels will never be 100% effective, and will only result in an increase of the price of the drug.
the real cost of the war on drugs is the wasted tax dollars punishing the users by tying up police and court systems to incarcerate "petty" criminals in an effort to deter them from somthing that is addictive.
the only way to stop the war on drugs is if you were able to taint an extremely large portion of the drugs (say cocaine) with a chemical that will kill instantly... how many people snort up cocaine in a day? imagine if they all died, then the following day, same amount, then the 3rd day it would probably drop a bit as news coverage hits up...then everyone will be afraid of snorting coke cuz there is a bad batch or somthing... then who knows what theyw ill do, probably jump to another drug... <shrug> i dont have all answers... i just dont think you can win this, and the effort they are putting into it now, has very very very little consequence in the long term big picture.
these are just some random thoughts ive had on the war on drugs, in no way am i expert or have all the answers. Just my thoughts.
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