U.S. Seizes 10 Tons of Marijuana on Mexican Border

[THELAIR]

oh yah if that shipment was caught on the US/CAN border, the CDN govt wouldnt hear the end of it from the feds in washington, in an effort to put leverage on teh CDN govt from enacting any softer laws on weed.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: derek2034
Using the term "narcotic" for pot (or amphetamines) is still unnecessary and confusing. Narcotic implies a certain class of drugs, namely opioids. If you have gotten prescriptions from the doctor you would know that. It shouldn't be necessary to differentiate between the medical terms and the "stupid-man law enforcement" term.

derek, we have had debates over drugs numerous times and you have shown your idiocy. Are you going to lecture me on ATP again or give the chemical name for caffeine to try to prove your intelligence about science?

There is zero harm in "Narcotics' referring to all drugs because it has been that way for a while now. As usual, the pro-drug side can only play semantics.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: derek2034
Using the term "narcotic" for pot (or amphetamines) is still unnecessary and confusing. Narcotic implies a certain class of drugs, namely opioids. If you have gotten prescriptions from the doctor you would know that. It shouldn't be necessary to differentiate between the medical terms and the "stupid-man law enforcement" term.

derek, we have had debates over drugs numerous times and you have shown your idiocy. Are you going to lecture me on ATP again or give the chemical name for caffeine to try to prove your intelligence about science?

There is zero harm in "Narcotics' referring to all drugs because it has been that way for a while now. As usual, the pro-drug side can only play semantics.

"Zero harm" unless you count slaughtering accuracy.

And the anti-pot "side" doesn't even have semantics.

 

[Red Dawn]

Damn there goes the Lakers Weekend stash!

 

[chasem]

for all you punks that live north, the "swag" is just all the plant material pressed with a hydrolic press, typically pressed in one pound bricks. This weed grows in a field that gets sprayed by american planes :/. but a pound of schwag a little north of the boarder goes for around 400$ a pound. its pretty worthless unless you wana make some cookies . which in that case, its extreeeemmllyy economical. Btw, people dont sell swchag in eigths, it goes in quarters. Typically 10$ a quarter 20 a half and 40 an oz.

 

[Demosthenes]

schwag ROCKS! blunts-a-plenty!

 

[Dufman]

Originally posted by: chibchacan

U.S. Seizes 10 Tons of Marijuana on Mexican Border

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[brxndxn]

the war on drugs causes more harm than good imho.

People say "ooh that 10 tons is going to make a big dent in the drug trafficking world"

there is no current action currently that will stop the drug trade 100%, i think most of us can agree to that, that you will never stop it. So drug cartel/manufacturers know that a certain percentage of all their major wholesale shipments into the US will be seized, lets say 10%, so if they send out 10 container trucks, odds are that between 1-2 will be caught through 'normal' current procedures at customs, unless of course they are ratted out by someone close to the cartel, that tips off the feds and all 10 of the shipments are seized, then they are pissed. So when doing a 10 load shipment, the cost of the merchandise has allready been taken into account that 1-2 shipments will be lost. But seriously, this seems like a big load, and it probably is, but i'll bet you that the loss of that container was calculated and taken into account in whatever the final grand shipment was.

so what htey have basically accomplished in the short term is successfully rising the streetprice of weed in the greater west coast area, to which that shipment MAY have been destined for, to be distributed, and will only increase the crime rate for the people who buy the drugs in order to get the cash that they need.

the whole entire war on drugs is dumb. Dont get me wrong, people who do hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, acid etc... arnt that intelligent either or lack will power/low self esteem or any other reason why people do drugs....

but untill they are able to reduce the price of these drugs from 40,000 dollars for a kilo of cocaine to 400 dollars or even 40 dollars, the only people who win are the drug dealers who get a bigger percentage of their profit.

Just like oil companies jackin gas prices cuz supplies from venezuela are slow, or the war in iraq etc... up goes the price at the pump the next day, and we all moan etc... while the oil companies jack it up for a legitimate reason but can tack on 1 or 2 more cents at the same time...

invasion of columbia to stamp out the drug cartels will never be 100% effective, and will only result in an increase of the price of the drug.

the real cost of the war on drugs is the wasted tax dollars punishing the users by tying up police and court systems to incarcerate "petty" criminals in an effort to deter them from somthing that is addictive.

the only way to stop the war on drugs is if you were able to taint an extremely large portion of the drugs (say cocaine) with a chemical that will kill instantly... how many people snort up cocaine in a day? imagine if they all died, then the following day, same amount, then the 3rd day it would probably drop a bit as news coverage hits up...then everyone will be afraid of snorting coke cuz there is a bad batch or somthing... then who knows what theyw ill do, probably jump to another drug... <shrug> i dont have all answers... i just dont think you can win this, and the effort they are putting into it now, has very very very little consequence in the long term big picture.


these are just some random thoughts ive had on the war on drugs, in no way am i expert or have all the answers. Just my thoughts.

I agree comletely.. War on drugs => HUGE waste of money and resources. I'm certain that if pot were legalized, then it would be easier to keep out of the hands of 13 year-olds.. Since the law is completely against pot already, a dealer doesn't care whether he sells it to an old woman with arthritis or a 13year-old kid who thinks you need to snort it.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: derek2034
Using the term "narcotic" for pot (or amphetamines) is still unnecessary and confusing. Narcotic implies a certain class of drugs, namely opioids. If you have gotten prescriptions from the doctor you would know that. It shouldn't be necessary to differentiate between the medical terms and the "stupid-man law enforcement" term.

derek, we have had debates over drugs numerous times and you have shown your idiocy. Are you going to lecture me on ATP again or give the chemical name for caffeine to try to prove your intelligence about science?

There is zero harm in "Narcotics' referring to all drugs because it has been that way for a while now. As usual, the pro-drug side can only play semantics.

You are incorrect.
Narcotics were made illegal in 1907.
The sale of marijuana was regulated in 1937 by the Marijuana Tax Act and then made illegal in the late 50's-early 60's (not going to look up exact date now TYVM).
What does the anti-drug side play? Morality by tyrannical majority? Stupidity of the lynch mob? Nazi-esque scapegoatism? Or do you just believe in misleading the public on what a substance is so that cops can remain corrupt like with their annual "show bust" here? :disgust:

 

[Sid59]

all i can think about is the movie half baked and a sequel. They sit outside of the US-Mexican border to grab a stash of weed. I love that movie. David Chapelle!!!!

 

[Vernor]

Originally posted by: NFS4
HOLY CRAP:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q

A drop of water in the Pacific ocean.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: derek2034
Using the term "narcotic" for pot (or amphetamines) is still unnecessary and confusing. Narcotic implies a certain class of drugs, namely opioids. If you have gotten prescriptions from the doctor you would know that. It shouldn't be necessary to differentiate between the medical terms and the "stupid-man law enforcement" term.

derek, we have had debates over drugs numerous times and you have shown your idiocy. Are you going to lecture me on ATP again or give the chemical name for caffeine to try to prove your intelligence about science?

There is zero harm in "Narcotics' referring to all drugs because it has been that way for a while now. As usual, the pro-drug side can only play semantics.

You are incorrect.
Narcotics were made illegal in 1907.
The sale of marijuana was regulated in 1937 by the Marijuana Tax Act and then made illegal in the late 50's-early 60's (not going to look up exact date now TYVM).
What does the anti-drug side play? Morality by tyrannical majority? Stupidity of the lynch mob? Nazi-esque scapegoatism? Or do you just believe in misleading the public on what a substance is so that cops can remain corrupt like with their annual "show bust" here? :disgust:

Vic do you mind telling me what I said was incorrect?

 

[3L33T32003]

You can keep the mexican weed.

Too bad the stuff is illegal. If they would legalize the crap and tax it, you have to wonder how much more $$ the gov would make?
Hell, let the companies keep testing for it. They have a right to screen people for drugs, just as those who use drugs are free to look elsewhere for employment.

 

[PCMarine]

damn!

 

[Piano Man]

I hope prices don't go up like they did in September.

 

[boi]

It's not that big compared to the cocaine busts they had in the past. I remember a few years ago they found a truck with 2 tons of cocaine. Now thats worth a LOT.

 

[nick1985]

thats a lot of weed, man.....

 

[Tripleshot]

Bush administration opened the Mexican border for mexican truckers to bring their rigs across and into the US to deliver products from computers to auto parts to you name it, making it very easy to smuggle contriband in with little risk. If the cartels ship 1000 tons in and 10 tons gets picked off every now and then, thats the cost of doing business. The feds get a "big" bust to crow about, but the amount of flow across the border is not even dented a small bit. There is more dope in 18 wheelers than you can shake a stick at. Smart drivers have been hauling that for years. The Bush adminstration has just made it easier, and the mexican driver is expendable. Makes you wonder about Bush's bi lingual skills and what he uses it for. Maybe high level dope deals?

No story here--- just move along.

 

[FuZoR]

I'm sure the Drug Czar is happy... PFFFT!!

 

[dmcowen674]

Wow, 10 tons, it could be compressed and steamed and mixed into Gasoline as an alternative like Ethanol.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: NFS4
HOLY CRAP:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q

Tax it at the border, and fine people caught with it. The war on drugs is lost.

 

[thomsbrain]

dude, i just lost $9 million today. the boss is going to kill me.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: The Dancing Peacock

Originally posted by: dparker

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Wow.. that's 10 tons that could have gone to good use, but now will be wasted.

You can keep the mexican weed

Yeah, but 10 tons should get you pretty high.

just barely. shwag sucks.

Two words:

Brownies
Cakes

Schwag rocks for cooking.

 

[Zee]

lol. and why are you bumping this thread? (are you one of the cops and did you just finish smoking all 10 tons?

 

[NewSc2]

Why do people randomly bump old threads? (argh that thread died )