U.S moved up the deployment of a major "strike group" of ships to the Persian Gulf **link added**

[TheNewbie]

This comes from several unofficial websites/blogs I came across, so I won't bother linking, but it does seem to be reliable information.
The USS Nimitz Strike Group and USS Truman Strike Group were named and are supposed to join up with the USS Enterprise which is already present at the Persian Gulf.
I don't know if this muscle flexing means anything, I don't even know if Bush knows if it means anything...
Maybe we're looking for an opportunity?

Edit: as I said I'm talking about unofficial websites/blogs, but here is one for you.

 

[Jaskalas]

Unless Congress declares war on someone I doubt deployments mean much other than for diplomatic pressure and/or to work with our current forces in their current field of operations.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Links please.....

 

[eits]

this is why countries hate us...

 

[Siddhartha]

Bush can pretty much attack anyone, country he wants. The president has done it in the past will and it will be done in the future.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

We move our ships all over the world, just as other navies from other countries do the same.

These two deployments if true could very well be replacing two groups already stationed in the area. Not to mention they are most likely supporting any operations within Iraq. We shouldnt worry what radical nutjob nations think when we move our ships, we really shouldnt.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

Half of having this kind of naval muscle is showing it off to people just to remind them you're there.

The US sorties the 7th Fleet out of Yokosuka to the East China sea when the Chinese look to beat the war drums over Taiwan every now and again.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

We move our ships all over the world, just as other navies from other countries do the same.

These two deployments if true could very well be replacing two groups already stationed in the area. Not to mention they are most likely supporting any operations within Iraq. We shouldnt worry what radical nutjob nations think when we move our ships, we really shouldnt.

Yep. Movements in and of themselves mean little. Part of this may be to remind people in the area that we can move as we please, but even so there are more pragmatic reasons not to do with impending attacks, assuming this report is even true.

 

[Mxylplyx]

If you want to find one of the numerous threads about the U.S. posturing for war with Iran, use the search button. This might as well be considered a repost.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
If you want to find one of the numerous threads about the U.S. posturing for war with Iran, use the search button. This might as well be considered a repost.

There are many threads about possible war with Iran, but this one deals specifically with a current alleged situation. As such it isn't a repost.

 

[dmcowen674]

We've had this nuclear strike group in the area for over a year now so this is nothing new.

It is nice however to have them at the ready should anyone try and do something on 9-11.

I would certainly have prefered glass blowing to this disaster in Iraq.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
This comes from several unofficial websites/blogs I came across, so I won't bother linking, but it does seem to be reliable information.
The USS Nimitz Strike Group and USS Truman Strike Group were named and are supposed to join up with the USS Enterprise which is already present at the Persian Gulf.
I don't know if this muscle flexing means anything, I don't even know if Bush knows if it means anything...
Maybe we're looking for an opportunity?

Edit: as I said I'm talking about unofficial websites/blogs, but here is one for you.

The Nimitz newsletter has them wrapping up some joint exercises and their current deployment, heading to Guam to pick up some aircraft and then heading home to San Diego (arrival date of Sept. 30).

Their orders could have changed in the last 3 days but I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

http://www.nimitz.navy.mil/_files/pdf/090807.pdf

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

We move our ships all over the world, just as other navies from other countries do the same.

These two deployments if true could very well be replacing two groups already stationed in the area. Not to mention they are most likely supporting any operations within Iraq. We shouldnt worry what radical nutjob nations think when we move our ships, we really shouldnt.

are you joking? you think that we just move our ships in an aggressive position in the persian gulf during talks with iran just because everyone else's navy does the same thing? what country do you think has been in the most wars and has killed the most number of people in the past 50 years? you don't think that people in other countries see bush's bloodthirst and feel that they are being manipulated and controlled by a country by which they aren't sovereign?

nevermind... you're right... they hate us because we're free. :roll: dumbest excuse ever...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

We move our ships all over the world, just as other navies from other countries do the same.

These two deployments if true could very well be replacing two groups already stationed in the area. Not to mention they are most likely supporting any operations within Iraq. We shouldnt worry what radical nutjob nations think when we move our ships, we really shouldnt.

are you joking? you think that we just move our ships in an aggressive position in the persian gulf during talks with iran just because everyone else's navy does the same thing? what country do you think has been in the most wars and has killed the most number of people in the past 50 years? you don't think that people in other countries see bush's bloodthirst and feel that they are being manipulated and controlled by a country by which they aren't sovereign?

nevermind... you're right... they hate us because we're free. :roll: dumbest excuse ever...

What constitutes an agressive manner versus a non-agressive manner?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

We move our ships all over the world, just as other navies from other countries do the same.

These two deployments if true could very well be replacing two groups already stationed in the area. Not to mention they are most likely supporting any operations within Iraq. We shouldnt worry what radical nutjob nations think when we move our ships, we really shouldnt.

are you joking? you think that we just move our ships in an aggressive position in the persian gulf during talks with iran just because everyone else's navy does the same thing? what country do you think has been in the most wars and has killed the most number of people in the past 50 years? you don't think that people in other countries see bush's bloodthirst and feel that they are being manipulated and controlled by a country by which they aren't sovereign?

nevermind... you're right... they hate us because we're free. :roll: dumbest excuse ever...

What constitutes an agressive manner versus a non-agressive manner?

posturing in a manner that might be considered a warning

 

[narcotic]

Didn't Bush say something about dealing with Iran before he leaves office?
Anyway, as someone noted here, though updated, this report still seems to be one in a million similar ones we've heard over the recent months.

 

[blackangst1]

seems to me we moved a third carrier group earlier this year...could be wrong though. *shrug* so what?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

If our ships are in international waters what's their (legitinmate) complaint?

And you're talking about our agressive stance towards Iran? The country that's sending IED's to Iraq, and don't they have a guy Akmadinejad (sp?) who's always making agressive and provocative statements?

No, nobody should say anything bad or agressive to Iran, they're the global *nice guys* :roll:

Frankly, I don't give a fvck if the Iranian Ayatollahs are mad or not, or like us or don't.

Maybe it's their turn to give a crap whether WE like them or not.

Fern

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Fern


Maybe it's their turn to give a crap whether WE like them or not.

Fern

They aren't playing the shell game with their nuke program because they think we like them

 

[StageLeft]

this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

You win.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: eits
this is why countries hate us...

What? Because of unsubstantiated "I saw it on the intarweb so it must be true" posts on political forums?

no, because we assert ourselves in potentially threatening positions in other countries backyards. we would hate china if they had carriers and ships positioned outside of los angeles, dc, and the gulf of mexico. this kind of aggressive stance towards iran is only going to help move the iranian people from hating their government to favoring their government in order to seek security. no one likes being threatened and manipulated.

If our ships are in international waters what's their (legitinmate) complaint?

And you're talking about our agressive stance towards Iran? The country that's sending IED's to Iraq, and don't they have a guy Akmadinejad (sp?) who's always making agressive and provocative statements?

No, nobody should say anything bad or agressive to Iran, they're the global *nice guys* :roll:

Frankly, I don't give a fvck if the Iranian Ayatollahs are mad or not, or like us or don't.

Maybe it's their turn to give a crap whether WE like them or not.

Fern

WE'RE IN THEIR BACKYARD, DUDE! no one there likes us there, so in order to get us out, they're going to help iraq fight back. practically every country there is helping the resistance.

you don't go into a backyard that says "beware of dog" and square off against the goddamn dog just because the dog poses a potential threat if the gate opens. you don't preemptively take out the frigging dog. you just keep your eye on it and stay away from the gate.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: eits
you don't go into a backyard that says "beware of dog" and square off against the goddamn dog just because the dog poses a potential threat if the gate opens. you don't preemptively take out the frigging dog. you just keep your eye on it and stay away from the gate.

That really depends on the type of fence, the type of dog, the look in the it's eyes, the way it's standing, and, of course, the noises it's making...

 

[Aimster]

debka also said Iran is purchasing 250 SU-35s from Russia.

That website is complete garbage.