U.S. military aircraft overshoots runway and lands in Hawaii bay

Indus

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Looks like the pilots couldn't wait to take a swim on the beaches of Hawaii!
 

trenchfoot

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That runway is quite short when compared with what's available at Pearl/Hickam although I've seen a C5A land there with maybe a hundred yards left before it got its wheels wet. The turnaround is a 180 degree pivot at that end. I used to drive across that runway to get to a surf spot called Pyramid Rock on the other side. The vehicle FOD shaker you have to drive over is an experience all of it's own.
 
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itsmydamnation

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That runway is quite short when compared with what's available at Pearl/Hickam although I've seen a C5A land there with maybe a hundred yards left before it got its wheels wet. The turnaround is a 180 degree pivot at that end. I used to drive across that runway to get to a surf spot called Pyramid Rock on the other side. The vehicle FOD shaker you have to drive over is an experience all of it's own.
i wonder what the wind was doing at the time?
 

brycejones

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The is clearly the fault of wokery making our great pilots forget how to fly. Chip Roy will be launching an investigation into how the Biden administration is destroying our great military with wokery.
 

Pens1566

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The is clearly the fault of wokery making our great pilots forget how to fly. Chip Roy will be launching an investigation into how the Biden administration is destroying our great military with wokery.

Can't wait to hear from Tuberville that this pilot was flying a plane full of transgender women service members going to Hawaii to get post birth abortions.
 

Indus

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Can't wait to hear from Tuberville that this pilot was flying a plane full of transgender women service members going to Hawaii to get post birth abortions.

The thrust reversers were clearly made by woke transgender women!
 

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I am going to guess that the wind was blowing. The reason for the water parking job is due to the pilot putting the plane down past the designated landing zone. Should have done a go around.
Everything you typed there is true, normal with every aircraft approach though. Thank you for your input PIC captain obvious.
 

skyking

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Pilots don't like to give up on approaches. They take it as a personal failure which is complete Bullshit.
Those guys had probably flown 7+ hours and it takes a toll.
When I was instructing and doing biennial flight reviews, you could bet your ass that your perfect approach was going to end in a go-around at least once during the flight.
I didn't have an agreement with the RWU (ruminant workers union) so I would have to call out a simulated deer on the runway.
It's always telling to see how a pilot reacts to that.
I've been in the pattern when somebody has pulled out in front of an aircraft on short final, and the pilot that's having to go around is all ticked off and saying stupid stuff on the radio.
Just shut the fuck up and make your radio calls, Asshole.
Whenever it happened to me, I would silently thank the blunderer for causing me to practice what I should do more often.
Maybe you find something out about your checklist practices, maybe you missed something that prepares you to go around.
About 90% of the pre-landing check is really a pre-go-round check.
Fuel on main tanks? There could be plenty of fuel in the auxiliary tanks, but they are not engineered to keep providing fuel at all angles. Other than gear flaps and slats, it's all about making maximum power if needed.
 

trenchfoot

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i wonder what the wind was doing at the time?

Prevailing wind (tradewinds) is normally coming in from the seaward end of that runway of which aircraft can fly into making landings at lower groundspeeds thus shorter in distance (correct me if I'm wrong please). If the wind was coming in from the opposite direction (Kona winds) from the direction of the Koolau Mountain Range the aircraft would have to (my best guess) drop down quickly after passing the mountain range at a higher groundspeed thus creating a steeper and faster glide path which entails a need for more runway to stop it.

So with the exception of mechanical failures aside, if a certain aircraft is not designed for short takeoff and landing whereas the C-130/C-17 and somewhat the C5 is capable of, I'm guessing it's a pretty tough job of landing a heavy in a following wind at MCBH given the terrain and worst case wind conditions.

* - I am not a pilot although I have occasionally flown in private two seaters (including gliders restricted to Dillingham airfield) doing touch-n-go's at various airfields around the island chain including some pretty hairy cross-wind takeoffs and landings.

edit - language correction for clarification irt C130/C17
 
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Meghan54

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Prevailing wind (tradewinds) is normally coming in from the seaward end of that runway of which aircraft can fly into making landings at lower groundspeeds thus shorter in distance (correct me if I'm wrong please). If the wind was coming in from the opposite direction (Kona winds) from the direction of the Koolau Mountain Range the aircraft would have to (my best guess) drop down quickly after passing the mountain range at a higher groundspeed thus creating a steeper and faster glide path which entails a need for more runway to stop it.

So with the exception of mechanical failures aside, if a certain aircraft is not designed for short takeoff and landing like the C-130 and C-17, I'm guessing it's a pretty tough job of landing a heavy in a following wind at MCBH given the terrain and worst case wind conditions.

* - I am not a pilot although I have occasionally flown in private two seaters (including gliders restricted to Dillingham airfield) doing touch-n-go's at various airfields around the island chain including some pretty hairy cross-wind takeoffs and landings.
C-130’s have made more than a few carrier landings, so does that count for short landings for that aircraft?
 
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