U.S. citizen from Georgia held for ICE under Florida’s new anti-immigration law

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NWRMidnight

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Think I commented I've lived in the same area for almost 40 years.. seen tons of illegals looking for work outside Home Depot.. no one ever harassed me.. at most they give me a business card with their skills and leave it to me to call.. because they're not looking to rob.. they're looking for customers for roofing/ tiling.. whatever.

But yes the shopping cart mafia took it up a couple of notches so yeah I definitely won't be speaking well of them!

But blind religious hateful belief is where I draw the line. That propaganda is taught to them and they learned willingly.

It's time we accept that MAGA and Nazis are extremist religious beliefs and they will not change!
Oh the irony of your argument. It's sad you don't recognize the similarities in you positions between them and you. You don't seem to realize you are just as guilty, the only difference is the criteria you are using.
 

Indus

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Oh the irony of your argument. It's sad you don't recognize the similarities in you positions between them and you. You don't seem to realize you are just as guilty, the only difference is the criteria you are using.

Careful with your judgment because it's a double edge sword.

What's the difference between you and MAGA?
You're both Americans.

Turns out it's just a certain criteria we're using!


So it often comes down to who's been personally damaged by another or.. who's been brainwashed to blindly hate another!

At least in my case it's the first.. not the second.
 

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BTW this probably belongs in the CT thread.. but I wonder if Trump's goons are responsible for this..


Shit ton of them on Long Island..
 
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NWRMidnight

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Careful with your judgment because it's a double edge sword.

What's the difference between you and MAGA?
You're both Americans.

Turns out it's just a certain criteria we're using!


So it often comes down to who's been personally damaged by another or.. who's been brainwashed to blindly hate another!

At least in my case it's the first.. not the second.
I take it you don't know what irony means. Maybe you should look it up, because it's clear you don't recognize what you are doing.

There is only one person here falling on the "double edge sword". It's the same person who is trying to justify themselves, in an attempt to differeciate themselves from the very people they are talking about, when they are just as guilty, and failing miserably at it.
 
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I take it you don't know what irony means. Maybe you should look it up, because it's clear you don't recognize what you are doing.

There is only one person here falling on the "double edge sword". It's the same person who is trying to justify themselves, and failing miserably at it.

I think you know by now I don't do what's popular or what makes me liked. So the only stupid person is YOU for persisting.

You can either accept it or you can put me on ignore.

I WILL NOT CHANGE!
 
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NWRMidnight

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I could care less about irony or justification.. they won't bring my family back to life.

I think you know by now I don't do what's popular or what makes me liked. So the only stupid person is YOU for persisting.

You can either accept it or you can put me on ignore. I WILL NOT CHANGE!
"Shakes head"

I don't know if I should laugh, cry, or feel sorry for you.
 

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"Shakes head"

I don't know if I should laugh, cry, or feel sorry for you.

Could care less.. but what's more ironic is you focusing on symptoms and conveniently ignoring the major cause of the problem right in front of you: religious hate!
 

NWRMidnight

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Could care less.. but what's more ironic is you focusing on symptoms and conveniently ignoring the major cause of the problem right in front of you: religious hate!
Are you doing ok? I ask because it appears you have been having a discussion with me that I wasn't present for. So, can you fill me in on that discussion that you seemed to have imagined, so I can try to understand how you connected the dots here.

Or is it just a freeble attempt to redirect away from the irony of what you say about MAGA in correlation to yourself because of the similarities of your own actions, which you attempted to defend. All the way down to admitting you will never change, which is also what you said about MAGA/Nazis. Hence why I am shaking my head. It's like you are oblivious of your own actions.
 
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HomerJS

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That explanation is in the linked story. Scroll up, click the link, read it. My hunch is that the arresting officer misunderstood the fellows broken English. The judge involved clearly understood the fellow was a citizen when presented with his birth certificate, but had to follow the ICE holding order. ICE agent arrived, reviewed the case, and released him.
I'm sure it was a very unpleasant experience, I'd be mad as a wet hen if it happened to me, but these things do happen. In the end he was unharmed and released.
This is for everyone else not @Greenman

His response is condoning probable cause of just being Hispanic as justification to arrest someone. Racist fascism is the only explanation.

“He’s Hispanic that didn’t speak perfect English so just arrest him and we’ll figure it out later.”
 

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This is for everyone else not @Greenman

His response is condoning probable cause of just being Hispanic as justification to arrest someone. Racist fascism is the only explanation.

“He’s Hispanic that didn’t speak perfect English so just arrest him and we’ll figure it out later.”
Yeah, "lock up brown people until they are vetted" is pretty fucked up. Maybe put them in some camps, where they are "concentrated" for "efficiency".

What could possibly go wrong?
 

DZero

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Germany built their camps in Poland. Trump has El Salvador, and planes rather than trains.
The issue? If Nicaragua enters on war with El Salvador (check their frontiers and there are a way to start a war) and "rescues them", what will happen?

Trump is doing idiotic ways to do the things.
 

Jaskalas

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US officials capture another person of color! Only this was yet another US citizen.

U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days

The family later provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.
He did say he was a U.S. citizen, but they didn't believe him,” Layva said. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court and gave that to ICE and the Border Patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”
 
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Indus

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US officials capture another person of color! Only this was yet another US citizen.

U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days

The family later provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.
He did say he was a U.S. citizen, but they didn't believe him,” Layva said. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court and gave that to ICE and the Border Patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”

I never thought of getting an enhanced driving license before.. but this has me considering it for me and my family!

Definitely not going to start carrying the passport everywhere.. all it takes is 1 cosplaying cop to grab it and I have no proof of citizenship.
 
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I never thought of getting an enhanced driving license before.. but this has me considering it for me and my family!

Definitely not going to start carrying the passport everywhere.. all it takes is 1 cosplaying cop to grab it and I have no proof of citizenship.
You can always get a passport card. It's a wallet sized passport that works at land and sea borders. Also has the benefit of not having other personal information encoded on it when someone needs to see ID, like state licenses have.
 

HomerJS

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US officials capture another person of color! Only this was yet another US citizen.

U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days

The family later provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.
He did say he was a U.S. citizen, but they didn't believe him,” Layva said. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court and gave that to ICE and the Border Patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”
Just like they did Obama. People of color have to jump through extra hoops just to prove their legitimacy

Yet we still have people here deny Republicans are the racist party.
 

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Now they are targeting REAL US Citizens, who is next? An indigenous US citizen? When that happens, imagine the MASSIVE backlash will start in the regions the "minorities" are.

A civil war might happen eventually. Trump is so idiotic that literally is destroying the cohesion in the country.
 

eelw

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Now they are targeting REAL US Citizens, who is next? An indigenous US citizen? When that happens, imagine the MASSIVE backlash will start in the regions the "minorities" are.

A civil war might happen eventually. Trump is so idiotic that literally is destroying the cohesion in the country.
Shortly targeting Dems.

Anyone else watched Daredevil Born Again? Waiting for the orange monkey to attempt the things done by Fisk. Imagine if he detained Biden and attempted that scene between Fisk and the commissioner. Biden would wipe the floor with the 226lb orange tub of lard
 

Indus

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Now they are targeting REAL US Citizens, who is next? An indigenous US citizen? When that happens, imagine the MASSIVE backlash will start in the regions the "minorities" are.

A civil war might happen eventually. Trump is so idiotic that literally is destroying the cohesion in the country.

Bring it on.

We'll destroy them as well!
 

[DHT]Osiris

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What's really awesome is, now all these people have a record in the ICE/law enforcement systems for being 'involved' with ICE agents and the ICE system. Contacts get recorded and can be wielded as a cudgel in the future, even if the contact was erroneous/benign.
 

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US officials capture another person of color! Only this was yet another US citizen.

U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days

The family later provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.
He did say he was a U.S. citizen, but they didn't believe him,” Layva said. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court and gave that to ICE and the Border Patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”

These things happen. - Greenman

The comments section in that article are amazing glimpses into our society.

"What was he doing there anyway?"

"Oh well, 10 days in confinement is a small price to pay to make sure we get all the criminals. Why did it take his family so long to gather his papers?"

That there isn't 100% denouncement of this speaks volumes. If you think we're going "to save ourselves," you're wrong. 30-50% of the population is ok with doing this to the "others."

We're finished.
 
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These things happen. - Greenman

The comments section in that article are amazing glimpses into our society.

"What was he doing there anyway?"

"Oh well, 10 days in confinement is a small price to pay to make sure we get all the criminals. Why did it take his family so long to gather his papers?"

That there isn't 100% denouncement of this speaks volumes. If you think we're going "to save ourselves," you're wrong. 30-50% of the population is ok with doing this to the "others."

We're finished.

I’m wish I could say you are wrong and overreacting but I can’t.
 
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How many times has this happened, and we don't know because the victims have simply been disappeared?
 
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If the next one is an european, USA is totally done. Because that means that Trump is selling the country to Russia.