U-MD gone the way of Mizzou

[agent00f]

So the desire is there, but they are forced to be better? So you are admitting they are acting better?

They're being forced/shamed to act better by the right side of history, but the rhetoric of the election makes what they are rather obvious.

 

[realibrad]

They're being forced/shamed to act better by the right side of history, but the rhetoric of the election makes what they are rather obvious.

So, they are acting better, but you are able to see through their actions, and know whats in their mind? Simply amazing that you are a mind reader.

While you are doing this, can you tell me the winning lotto numbers?

 

[agent00f]

So, they are acting better, but you are able to see through their actions, and know whats in their mind? Simply amazing that you are a mind reader.

While you are doing this, can you tell me the winning lotto numbers?

No great mystery why you always need to apologize for the "ms housekeeping" crowd.

 

[jackstar7]

So, they are acting better, but you are able to see through their actions, and know whats in their mind? Simply amazing that you are a mind reader.

While you are doing this, can you tell me the winning lotto numbers?

Thinking mind reading and prognostication are the same... that explains a lot about my problem with you. Or you simply assume his having one power means he has access to many powers, which is also a rather hilarious leap.

 

[realibrad]

Thinking mind reading and prognostication are the same... that explains a lot about my problem with you. Or you simply assume his having one power means he has access to many powers, which is also a rather hilarious leap.

I thought your mistake was engaging with me?

You would first need evidence to form that conclusion. He already admitted that they have done nothing because he thinks they are constrained. So if its not action that he is using to know what they think, then how has he learned what they actually think?

 

[agent00f]

Thinking mind reading and prognostication are the same... that explains a lot about my problem with you. Or you simply assume his having one power means he has access to many powers, which is also a rather hilarious leap.

I have this great power to understand what trump is successfully appealing to through "those areas, you know what I'm talking about". Pretty sure even the dummies in the crowd know what he's talking about, even if someone like brad can plausibly pretend to be too dumb to get it.

 

[agent00f]

I thought your mistake was engaging with me?

You would first need evidence to form that conclusion. He already admitted that they have done nothing because he thinks they are constrained. So if its not action that he is using to know what they think, then how has he learned what they actually think?

It's also pretty easy to tell what that reliable white power defense force always thinks. You know, the ones who will do anything to skirt the issue of "systematic" racism that they're the posterchild for.

 

[zinfamous]

You guys will probably want an update.

As expected, the bullshit demands that the right on here think "evil liberal universities" will cave to are being squarely rejected. Please seek your bloody meat elsewhere. (letter to university sent to my inbox)

January 26, 2017


Dear University of Maryland community,


We begin this new semester as a rift grows in our nation. An "us-vs.-them" mindset prevails. We talk more about our differences than about our common ground.


In such a time, the University of Maryland must remain true to its core values, all of them. They ground us. We cannot learn, teach, pursue truth, and advance knowledge without academic freedom and freedom of expression, civility and respect, diversity and inclusion, openness and shared governance. Our excellence depends on these values, and they are found in our strategic plan.


Against this backdrop, 25 student groups -- under the name "ProtectUMD" -- last month presented to the UMD administration a list of 64 "demands."


By their engagement and passion, these students are demonstrating citizenship in action. American democracy is about the right of people to advocate for what they believe is right. My response to the "demands" is framed by UMD's educational mission and core values.


I tasked senior UMD administrators with a review of the students' petition. They determined that:


(1) Many "demands" call for actions that have been undertaken already or are set to be undertaken. Example: the multi-year plan to increase the hiring and retention of faculty of color, as outlined in UMD's strategic plan.


(2) Some "demands" for curricular and organizational changes in the area of diversity will require consultation with, and approval by, academic departments and the University Senate, in accordance with our principles of shared governance.


(3) And, there are "demands" that should not -- and will not -- be implemented because they are unlawful, or impractical, or unnecessary. Examples: restrictions on freedom of speech are unconstitutional; providing "prayer rooms" in every major campus building is impractical; declaring UMD a "sanctuary campus" is unnecessary, since we already provide all the protections and support allowed under the law.


Our University is deeply committed to diversity, inclusion, and social justice. Progress in realizing more fully these values begins by listening and responding, simple as it sounds.


First, we engage in dialogue. We renew the invitation to the student groups comprising "ProtectUMD" to sit down with us to discuss ways we can work together and move our University forward. We want to focus on achieving common goals and advancing shared values instead of going over "demands," one by one.


We recognize the rise of angst, hurt, and anger in fraught times. We know there are members of our University community who feel disenfranchised and marginalized on account of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, economics, or beliefs that span the political spectrum. We take their concerns and our institutional values seriously.


Second, we take action. After conversation with student groups and other campus stakeholders, we will develop and propose initiatives and investments to address issues of common concern. Our campus is one of the most diverse among our peer flagship institutions. It is this diversity that inspires us to do more for greater acceptance and inclusion.


No anodyne will heal the divisions in our country today, nor should it. At the University of Maryland, we do not fear the clash of ideas and values. I ask every member of our academic community to help us move forward with an open mind, consider different perspectives, and debate with respect and civility. These are the qualities that make trust, collaboration, and progress possible in a democracy.


None of this is easy or comfortable. Together, we can forge unity in diversity, become one formed from many. This is the enduring challenge, and opportunity, that faces our nation and our campus.


Sincerely,




Wallace D. Loh
President, University of Maryland

 

[Starbuck1975]

You guys will probably want an update.

As expected, the bullshit demands that the right on here think "evil liberal universities" will cave to are being squarely rejected. Please seek your bloody meat elsewhere. (letter to university sent to my inbox)

That is a bold, balanced and provocatively written letter that is very atypical of college administrators. Kudos to President Loh for acknowleding and balancing emotional with law and practical common sense.

 

[zinfamous]

That is a bold, balanced and provocatively written letter that is very atypical of college administrators. Kudos to President Loh for acknowleding and balancing emotional with law and practical common sense.

No, it's not atypical. A handful of Universities go insano and you guys label that the norm. Nothing changes.

 

[realibrad]

You guys will probably want an update.

As expected, the bullshit demands that the right on here think "evil liberal universities" will cave to are being squarely rejected. Please seek your bloody meat elsewhere. (letter to university sent to my inbox)

Pretty reasonable. The only question I have is why they need to hire more people of color. Was something going on that created a system that excluded people of color, or are they seeking more color because they think it will just be better that way?

 

[Starbuck1975]

No, it's not atypical. A handful of Universities go insano and you guys label that the norm. Nothing changes.

At least you concede some universities did go insano. Some of "you guys" have rushed to the defense of the insano ones and attempted to justify their insanity.

 

[jackstar7]

At least you concede some universities did go insano. Some of "you guys" have rushed to the defense of the insano ones and attempted to justify their insanity.

That's right, precious. Everyone is wrong some of the time.

Just own it when you are.